Has Don snatched defeat from the jaws of victory?

[jacksonlamb]

Mac-7, we are heading to a worldwide economic catastrophe if this war is not ended.

 

[cnm]

How long can the islamic dictatorship hold onto power without oil income?

Iran has no place to store oil it cannot sell

Soon it will have to cap the oil fields and that is not a simple affair

The world will still have lost 20% of supply, including aluminium and fert, over the actions of the spineless orange shit pudding.

I think everyone would be inclined to sit back and giggle if the US was attacked now.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Why, at this point, would Iran trust Trump to keep his word? Almost every time they go to the "negotiating" table they get bombed DURING negotiations. They'd be idiots to give it another try.

However, Trump's ventures were not without controversy. The transformation of the derelict 42nd Street into the glittering and profitable Trump Tower is a case in point. The project itself was seen as a triumph in terms of urban renewal and luxury real estate development, but it raised numerous ethical questions. Trump’s involvement with corrupt city officials who provided zoning variances, coupled with allegations of dubious financial practices, cast a shadow over the glittering glass structure. He was also embroiled in controversies concerning contractors and labor, particularly accusations of underpaid workers, including undocumented Polish laborers who were employed to demolish the old Bonwit Teller building to make way for Trump Tower. Bankruptcies and legal battles became a recurring pattern in Trump’s career. Perhaps most notable were the financial troubles that plagued several of his ventures in the late 1980sand early 1990s. Projects like the Trump Plaza Hotel, the Atlantic City casinos, and Eastern Airlines’ Trump Shuttle encountered severe financial difficulties.

https://cdn.bookey.app/files/pdf/book/en/the-making-of-donald-trump.pdf

Trump has mastered the arts of cheating and lying. He's little more than a polished conman.

 

[Mac-7]

The world will still have lost 20% of supply, including aluminium and fert, over the actions of the spineless orange shit pudding.

I think everyone would be inclined to sit back and giggle if the US was attacked now.

Maybe 20% on Day One but since then the wotld has been afjusting

The Saudi’s are exporting oil by pipeline to the Red Sea

Other countries including the US have ramped up production

There is still less supply

But not as much as the jihadi’s are hoping for

Meanwhile iranian oil sales are zero

 

[cnm]

Maybe 20% on Day One but since then the wotld has been afjusting

The Saudi’s are exporting oil by pipeline to the Red Sea

Other countries including the US have ramped up production

There is still less supply

But not as much as the jihadi’s are hoping for

Meanwhile iranian oil sales are zero

Oh hurrah, hurrah.

Ffs

I wonder how fast we can derisk from the US. We already trade with China in yuan, I hope the treasury is looking at joining China's CIPS system formally.

 

[kyzr]

The world will still have lost 20% of supply, including aluminum and fert, over the actions of the spineless orange shit pudding.
I think everyone would be inclined to sit back and giggle if the US was attacked now.

So you prefer that Iran gets nukes and ICBMs throwing the ME into an arms race and an unstable flash point?

Obama and the JCPOA morons were the spineless ones, letting Iran get nukes and giving them $56,000,000,000 to fund it.
A 10-year postponement while they enriched uranium is not preventing anything, Trump's Midnight Hammer and Epic Fury show determination and resolve to stop Iran's nuclear and ICBM programs,

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/29/middleeast/iran-nuclear-bomb-analysis-intl

"Back in 2018, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was clear, saying “Without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb, we would follow suit as soon as possible.”

 

[kyzr]

Why, at this point, would Iran trust Trump to keep his word? Almost every time they go to the "negotiating" table they get bombed DURING negotiations. They'd be idiots to give it another try.

You are confusing negotiating with Israel with the US. Israel bombs negotiators, not the US.

Trump has mastered the arts of cheating and lying. He's little more than a polished conman.

Actually Iran cheated on the JCPOA, Trump's position is "no nukes" for Iran.

 

[cnm]

So you prefer that Iran gets nukes and ICBMs

They have shown themselves to be no less responsible than the USA and Israel.

 

[Polishprince]

Iran’s Military Says It Has Reimposed ‘Strict Control’ of Strait of Hormuz​

Iran tightened its grip on the Strait of Hormuz again on Saturday, asserting that it was “under strict control” by Iranian forces — just hours after Iranian officials and President Trump had raised hopes for an end to the war by announcing that the waterway had reopened.

Iran’s military said in a statement that the strait had now “returned to its previous state” unless the United States ended its own blockade of Iranian ports. A shipping monitor run by the British navy said Saturday that it had received a report of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards firing at a tanker in the strait.

2 Ships Are Fired On as Iran Says Strait of Hormuz Is Closed

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said they were closing the strait until the U.S. blockade is lifted. Two ships reported being hit as they tried to pass through the strait.

www.nytimes.com

These are the folks trump claimed were "more reasonable" than the crew he blew up. It seems the reason he said it is because he needed to make it appear as though an objective for starting the war had been achieved. The problem here being duping your followers has proven to be much easier than dealing with reality. The reality being the new Iranian regime is playing hardball. It is proving to be more intractable than the contractors Don used to cheat during construction projects.

Hundreds Claim Donald Trump Doesn't Pay His Bills in Full​

Hundreds Claim Donald Trump Doesn't Pay His Bills in Full

Dozens of lawsuits allege the businessman didn't pay what he owed.

www.nbcnews.com

As far as the negotiations go, this has a feeling of familiarity. Can anyone guess why?

U.S. considers $20 billion cash-for-uranium deal with Iran​

The U.S. and Iran are negotiating over a three-page plan to end the war, with one element under discussion being that the U.S. would release $20 billion in frozen Iranian funds in return for Iran giving up its stockpile of enriched uranium, according to two U.S. officials and two additional sources briefed on the talks.

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/17/iran-us-deal-20-billion-frozen-funds-uranium

AI Overview

Yes, under the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), Iran agreed to ship out or dilute over 98% of its enriched uranium stockpile, reducing it to a maximum of 300kg at 3.67% purity, down from 11 tons. They also dismantled over 13,000 centrifuges.

I know libs hope so.

The fact that the ayatollahs are hell for the defenestration of people for gaiety is excused as they are against making America great again.

 

[kyzr]

They have shown themselves to be no less responsible than the USA and Israel.

Here are a few links proving Iran a state sponsor of terrorism.
Don't bring Israel into this discussion, your post was about Trump.
So how is the US less responsible (more prone to terrorism) than Iran?

Hezbollah, Hamas, and More: Iran's Terror Network Around the Globe

Here’s a primer on a dozen proxy terror groups that are inspired by, or take direction from, the Iranian regime.

www.ajc.org

U.S. Report: Iran’s Support for Terrorism

Iran continued to support terrorism in 2023, according to the State Department’s Country Reports on Terrorism 2023. In the Middle East, Iran provided arms, training and/or funding to militant groups in Bahrain, Iraq, Syria, the West Bank and Gaza, and Yemen. Several groups took advantage of the...

iranprimer.usip.org

Technical Difficulties

Trump admin warns Iraq over Iran terror proxies as US reportedly blocks cash payments

The Trump administration reportedly halted dollar shipments to Baghdad to pressure Iraq into disbanding Iran-backed militias that have attacked U.S. personnel.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Hafar1014]

The world will still have lost 20% of supply, including aluminium and fert, over the actions of the spineless orange shit pudding.

I think everyone would be inclined to sit back and giggle if the US was attacked now.

Its hard to believe anyone is dumb enough to defend Iran but the left proves that stupid is the foundation of their ideology

 

[jacksonlamb]

Maybe 20% on Day One but since then the wotld has been afjusting

The Saudi’s are exporting oil by pipeline to the Red Sea

Other countries including the US have ramped up production

There is still less supply

But not as much as the jihadi’s are hoping for

Meanwhile iranian oil sales are zero

But too much time has passed, and every day more is leading us straight to a worldwide recession.

Instead of striking Iran and then stepping back and saying, "We won and will do it again, if necessary," this Trump government continues.

 

[jacksonlamb]

So you prefer that Iran gets nukes and ICBMs throwing the ME into an arms race and an unstable flash point?

Obama and the JCPOA morons were the spineless ones, letting Iran get nukes and giving them $56,000,000,000 to fund it.
A 10-year postponement while they enriched uranium is not preventing anything, Trump's Midnight Hammer and Epic Fury show determination and resolve to stop Iran's nuclear and ICBM programs,

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/29/middleeast/iran-nuclear-bomb-analysis-intl

"Back in 2018, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was clear, saying “Without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb, we would follow suit as soon as possible.”

I prefer we strike, step back, say again, "we will strike you every time you try to enrich uranium to nuclear war levels," instead of running around in circles and wonder what to do next.

 

[Hafar1014]

But too much time has passed, and every day more is leading us straight to a worldwide recession.

Instead of striking Iran and then stepping back and saying, "We won and will do it again, if necessary," this Trump government continues.

There is no recession unless a nation builds to much renewable energy. Americas economy is strong and this will be one of the best years in history.

 

[jacksonlamb]

No one is defending Iran.

Trump is incompetent, and we are saying he is uncapable of leading us in a safe and sane way.

 

[SaxonJackson]

You are confusing negotiating with Israel with the US. Israel bombs negotiators, not the US.

Actually Iran cheated on the JCPOA, Trump's position is "no nukes" for Iran.

Trump isn't the President of the World. He's not the Chief Global Police Officer. He's an amoral conman who has no business dictating morality to anyone else on earth. When he comes clean with his own shortcomings them maybe we can talk.

 

[jacksonlamb]

There is no recession unless a nation builds to much renewable energy. Americas economy is strong and this will be one of the best years in history.

No it won't, but keep huffing the hopium.

 

[kyzr]

I prefer we strike, step back, say again, "we will strike you every time you try to enrich uranium to nuclear war levels," instead of running around in circles and wonder what to do next.

That is the "mow the grass" option, if Trump just walks away from Iran now, and says "if you work on nuclear weapons we will bomb you even worse." So all Iran has to do is wait for another democrat president and they get nukes.

I think that the blockade of Iran's oil is even more powerful than that bombing threat because if Iran can't move oil the oil wells lose capacity. No oil is a much bigger and an immediate threat to Iran. Trump has Iran by the balls and he is squeezing...

 

[jacksonlamb]

That is the "mow the grass" option, if Trump just walks away from Iran now, and says "if you work on nuclear weapons we will bomb you even worse." So all Iran has to do is wait for another democrat president and they get nukes.

I think that the blockade of Iran's oil is even more powerful than that bombing threat because if Iran can't move oil the oil wells lose capacity. No oil is a much bigger and an immediate threat to Iran. Trump has Iran by the balls and he is squeezing...

Your logic is off. We would need to put an occupation Army in Iran for twenty years to change it. The American people will not permit that.

 

[Hafar1014]

Your logic is off. We would need to put an occupation Army in Iran for twenty years to change it. The American people will not permit that.

There are 10000 Iranian Kurds we have armed who hate the regime. We have Iran between a rock and hard place. In days they run out of oil storage and will have to shut down their wells. That damaged them permanently and their economy collapses. All we have to do is wait.