Has anyone else heard this?

[Wry Catcher]

From this link:

Shock claim: Obama only wants military leaders who 'will fire on U.S. citizens' - Virginia Beach Conservative | Examiner.com

On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term.

Garrow made the following Facebook post:


I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed.

So, who is the source?

Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

 

[Wry Catcher]

My son and i talked about this a few months ago. He's 10 yrs in the Army, now with Spec. Ops....he said it'll never happen. Not the way Obama would want it to. Ya, you'll get some of the military to go along with it, but not enough. He believes the majority would be fighting FOR the US citizens and against the govt, no matter what our govt told them to do. I'll have to ask him if he's ever been asked that question....

It has to do with recruitment. They'll start really focusing on recruiting inner city losers..to do that they're going to have to relax the restrictions that currently prevent criminals from enlisting. Watch for that.

Not only have you believed this fantasy, but you're creating scenerios based on it.

Scarey.

Spot on, thanks.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

In the last 6 months i've heard from 3 people in the military who were reupping that officers are being asked if they would fire on US citizens if a situation arose that called for it. The first two I heard it from were younger and reupping for the first time. But I guy i just heard it from is career and said it was the first time he'd ever been asked it and was really concerned about it.

I'm wondering if anyone else here who has been in the military knows if this is standard or a new thing, or if anyone else has heard the same?

I knew a guy whose sister's ex husband served soup in the Italian Restaurant next to the office of the Army recruiters office and he said one of his customers heard that the Army recruiters told the students at the local high school that it was the Navy which asked such questions. Fortunately, most of the high school recruits were smart and figured out it was all bullshit and enlisted in the Navy. The dumb ones spent their time in the mud eating MRE's while the smart ones slept in a warm rack and ate hot meals three times a day.

I'll tell you what. I know these 3 guys don't lie. So your hearsay means pretty much nothing.

I don't believe they are lying. I've seen over a dozen youtube videos of soldiers ( none of whom knew each other ) all reporting that they had been asked this question and were highly upset by it. - Jeremiah NOTE* You can try googling it. Vids are probably still there. Check out the ones on Check points and mandatory vaccine stations also. There are some soldiers reporting strange instructions concerning that as well.

 

[uscitizen]

Ohh it is true the time is near. Buy all the guns and ammo you can.
Body armor and gas masks too!

 

[AmyNation]

No, I haven't and considering I have very close family members and friends who are ADM, I suspect I would have heard something.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

I knew a guy whose sister's ex husband served soup in the Italian Restaurant next to the office of the Army recruiters office and he said one of his customers heard that the Army recruiters told the students at the local high school that it was the Navy which asked such questions. Fortunately, most of the high school recruits were smart and figured out it was all bullshit and enlisted in the Navy. The dumb ones spent their time in the mud eating MRE's while the smart ones slept in a warm rack and ate hot meals three times a day.

I'll tell you what. I know these 3 guys don't lie. So your hearsay means pretty much nothing.

I don't believe they are lying. I've seen over a dozen youtube videos of soldiers ( none of whom knew each other ) all reporting that they had been asked this question and were highly upset by it. - Jeremiah NOTE* You can try googling it. Vids are probably still there. Check out the ones on Check points and mandatory vaccine stations also. There are some soldiers reporting strange instructions concerning that as well.

You know I used to think that right wing paranoia was the result of pundits playing on the ignorance and fear of their audience.

Now I actually believe much of it is self-serving and self-inflicted. Some folks honestly need to have something to be scared and upset about.

 

[Ravi]

What revolting bullshit.

 

[koshergrl]

That should make it very appealing to you then, Ravi. Revolting bullshit is the staple of your messageboard diet.

 

[koshergrl]

My son and i talked about this a few months ago. He's 10 yrs in the Army, now with Spec. Ops....he said it'll never happen. Not the way Obama would want it to. Ya, you'll get some of the military to go along with it, but not enough. He believes the majority would be fighting FOR the US citizens and against the govt, no matter what our govt told them to do. I'll have to ask him if he's ever been asked that question....

It has to do with recruitment. They'll start really focusing on recruiting inner city losers..to do that they're going to have to relax the restrictions that currently prevent criminals from enlisting. Watch for that.

Not only have you believed this fantasy, but you're creating scenerios based on it.

Scarey.

See what happens. When they relax criminal screening, then we'll talk again.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

It has to do with recruitment. They'll start really focusing on recruiting inner city losers..to do that they're going to have to relax the restrictions that currently prevent criminals from enlisting. Watch for that.

Not only have you believed this fantasy, but you're creating scenerios based on it.

Scarey.

See what happens. When they relax criminal screening, then we'll talk again.

Actually, the relaxed criminal standards during TESI.

With TESI ending, they've tightened standards once again. Manpower needs are what drives this.

See what you can learn when you actually talk to somebody whose job is in this actual arena, rather than relying on right-wing fringe blogs?

 

[Mad Scientist]

You know I used to think that right wing paranoia was the result of pundits playing on the ignorance and fear of their audience.

Now I actually believe much of it is self-serving and self-inflicted. Some folks honestly need to have something to be scared and upset about.

You mean like US Gov't supported Al Qaida in the Middle East?

 

[AmyNation]

In the last 5 years the military has done the exact opposite of what you are suggesting KG, standards have risen, significantly.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I call bullshit

This one's never right about anything, so, there must be something to it.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

You know I used to think that right wing paranoia was the result of pundits playing on the ignorance and fear of their audience.

Now I actually believe much of it is self-serving and self-inflicted. Some folks honestly need to have something to be scared and upset about.

You mean like US Gov't supported Al Qaida in the Middle East?

Um, what?

 

[Truthmatters]

I call bullshit

This one's never right about anything, so, there must be something to it.

hey fool your the one who said robmoney would win the election

 

[Spoonman]

My son and i talked about this a few months ago. He's 10 yrs in the Army, now with Spec. Ops....he said it'll never happen. Not the way Obama would want it to. Ya, you'll get some of the military to go along with it, but not enough. He believes the majority would be fighting FOR the US citizens and against the govt, no matter what our govt told them to do. I'll have to ask him if he's ever been asked that question....

Thanks caroljo. That is exactly what these guys have been telling me to. at least not for the reasons they perceive the direction will come down. I just find it interesting that they are being asked this question and to afirm their stance at this point.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

My son and i talked about this a few months ago. He's 10 yrs in the Army, now with Spec. Ops....he said it'll never happen. Not the way Obama would want it to. Ya, you'll get some of the military to go along with it, but not enough. He believes the majority would be fighting FOR the US citizens and against the govt, no matter what our govt told them to do. I'll have to ask him if he's ever been asked that question....

Thanks caroljo. That is exactly what these guys have been telling me to. at least not for the reasons they perceive the direction will come down. I just find it interesting that they are being asked this question and to afirm their stance at this point.

So you're not really seaking anything close to the truth with this thread, just people to help your confirmation bias.

Got it.

 

[uscitizen]

It is all part of the continuing Bush plan to merge homeland security and the military.

 

[uscitizen]

Remember kent state!

 

[Spoonman]

No, I haven't and considering I have very close family members and friends who are ADM, I suspect I would have heard something.

thanks army nation. have any of them reupped during that period?