Hard Truths....What's Your Example?

[BackAgain]

Listen 1stAssLicker, what I do with MY money is up to ME, right?

Feel free to rely on our generosity.

The average American gives 2% of their earning to Charity.

• Conservatives give 1.0% to Charity and 1.2% to Churches.
• Liberals give 1.6% to Charity and 0.4% to Churches.

Again, I am fine with what you all want me to keep from my earnings. No complaints.

Nobody believes you, you know.

And even if your claims were true, your “argument” is specious at best.

 

[Meister]

You guys can pretend I am a poser. I dont mind. But it doesnt change anything I post.

I only post this shit to reinforce how ridiculous your support of the policies that go to me are. I just dont get it.

Anyway, I am not a car guy. I drive a 4Runner Limited. Have had a 4Runner Ltd for 16 straight years (13 on the first one, 3 on this one) - utterly reliable even if low gas mileage. Wife drives a Lexus. Both boys I got Subarus.

Yeah, yeah....it's the internet, you can be whatever you want.

 

[citygator]

Nobody believes you, you know.

And even if your claims were true, your “argument” is specious at best.

Dont really care. I link every claim I make and support it with facts. Scroll up to the top tier discussion where I listed the tiers and the years it changed. Good work by me - very indicative of a successful business person. No one disputed it. They just went to name calling. That is how I know what station in life most of you are. Not on your claims, based on the quality of work done here.

 

[Bitterhook]

Dont really care. I link every claim I make and support it with facts. Scroll up to the top tier discussion where I listed the tiers and the years it changed. Good work by me - very indicative of a successful business person. No one disputed it. They just went to name calling. That is how I know what station in life most of you are. Not on your claims, based on the quality of work done here.

If you don't care, then there is no need to keep trying.
Your fairytale utopia dreams simply fall apart when cannot remain consistent from one post to the next.

 

[BackAgain]

Dont really care. I link every claim I make and support it with facts.

I don’t recall seeing a link or facts regarding your alleged jobs or wealth.

Scroll up to the top tier discussion where I listed the tiers and the years it changed. Good work by me - very indicative of a successful business person.

Self congratulations by a narcissistic personality hardly qualifies as proof of anything you say.

No one disputed it. They just went to name calling. That is how I know what station in life most of you are. Not on your claims, based on the quality of work done here.

What you think you know and what you actually know are largely unrelated.

 

[citygator]

If you don't care, then there is no need to keep trying.
Your fairytale utopia dreams simply fall apart when cannot remain consistent from one post to the next.

I am extremely consistent. I dont care if you believe me or not was my post.

I think the way you advocate for those of us at the top is totally crazy. I think its bad policy to not put more money in the hands of the working class. Its bad for growth and bad for social stability, however, if you all want it this way, who am I to complain? I'll just point out the idiocy of it all.

 

[Bitterhook]

I am extremely consistent. I dont care if you believe me or not was my post.

I think the way you advocate for those of us at the top is totally crazy. I think its bad policy to not put more money in the hands of the working class. Its bad for growth and bad for social stability, however, if you all want it this way, who am I to complain? I'll just point out the idiocy of it all.

If you don't care, then you wouldn't feel compelled to keep telling me.

I just indicated that the government cannot fix the crap you are complaining about and should not be granted the power to. I am advocating for everyone, and not just you wherever your stupid ass wants to pretend to be.

You do keep pointing out your idiocy, living in a pretend world where the government can save everyone's stupid ass from their own idiocy.

 

[citygator]

If you don't care, then you wouldn't feel compelled to keep telling me.

I just indicated that the government cannot fix the crap you are complaining about and should not be granted the power to. I am advocating for everyone, and not just you wherever your stupid ass wants to pretend to be.

You do keep pointing out your idiocy.

Without getting silly and insulting explain this:

The U.S. slashed top-tier federal tax rates starting in the early 1980s. Since then, we’ve collected a smaller share of total income from the very top, while repeatedly financing those tax cuts with deficits and debt rather than growth.

The predictable result isn’t controversial: the top 1% now owns about 32% of all U.S. wealth, while the bottom 50% owns just ~2–3% combined...despite being half the population. Meanwhile, the top 0.1% alone holds more wealth than the entire bottom 80% did in the late 1970s.

At the same time, median wages have barely kept pace with inflation while productivity has risen over 70% since 1980, meaning most gains flowed upward, not downward.

If the goal of an economic system is long-term stability, broad prosperity, and social cohesion, why would anyone believe today's framework is a healthy or sustainable equilibrium?

 

[norwegen]

Fitted sheets are simply just not meant to be folded.

 

[1srelluc]

I want to continue to thank you guys for thinking of me in the voter booth and I wont shut up about it. I owe you guys. Low taxes for the top tier is very generous of you.

I doubt if the taxes on your single-wide are that much. You probably just rent it anyway.

 

[Bitterhook]

Without getting silly and insulting explain this:

The U.S. slashed top-tier federal tax rates starting in the early 1980s. Since then, we’ve collected a smaller share of total income from the very top, while repeatedly financing those tax cuts with deficits and debt rather than growth.

The predictable result isn’t controversial: the top 1% now owns about 32% of all U.S. wealth, while the bottom 50% owns just ~2–3% combined...despite being half the population. Meanwhile, the top 0.1% alone holds more wealth than the entire bottom 80% did in the late 1970s.

At the same time, median wages have barely kept pace with inflation while productivity has risen over 70% since 1980, meaning most gains flowed upward, not downward.

If the goal of an economic system is long-term stability, broad prosperity, and social cohesion, why would anyone believe today's framework is a healthy or sustainable equilibrium?

Get a clue, and understand that the median wage, the middle class, or the average anything are nothing to aspire to.
There is no amount of tax you can rob from someone, that will ever make it worth the effort.

The government cannot save you or anyone else that wants to live in a fairytale utopia and thinks it is possible just because it would be nice or healthier, when it wouldn't be either and just provide more corruption.

You can only help someone to a certain extent before you start to harm them.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I have provided jobs to many poor people.

While they did not become rich, they were no longer poor.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I want to continue to thank you guys for thinking of me in the voter booth and I wont shut up about it. I owe you guys. Low taxes for the top tier is very generous of you.

The pattern of your rhetoric is hardly that of a person of means.

 

[Correll]

I am extremely consistent. I dont care if you believe me or not was my post.

I think the way you advocate for those of us at the top is totally crazy. I think its bad policy to not put more money in the hands of the working class. Its bad for growth and bad for social stability, however, if you all want it this way, who am I to complain? I'll just point out the idiocy of it all.

Your personal success, real or imagined, is irrelevant to the discussion of policy.

You seem to think that personally attacking the other posters, somehow,... supporters your point.


It doesn't. It is just you being a dick. If their argument or logic is sound, then it doesn't matter if they are poor or not.


YOu seem to assume that the other people are... feeling some shame at being less...successful, if they are.

That is in your head, I see no evidence of it from any of their posts.

Lord knows that I don't give a **** about how much MORE money you may or may not have than me.


So...yeah.

 

[Meister]

The pattern of your rhetoric is hardly that of a person of means.

Exactly, he sure sounds a lot like the Banker with his bragging.

 

[citygator]

Get a clue, and understand that the median wage, the middle class, or the average anything are nothing to aspire to.
There is no amount of tax you can rob from someone, that will ever make it worth the effort.

The government cannot save you or anyone else that wants to live in a fairytale utopia and thinks it is possible just because it would be nice or healthier.

If the top 1% were giving 35% effective taxes 1945-1980 and now they are only giving 25% effective tax rates but I propose we go BACK to 35% effective taxes... that isnt stealing. That is returning it to equilibrium.

I will tell you what. Those of you who arent successful dream that one day you'll be in this tax bracket so you dont want it to go up. Here is a pro tip. When you get to your 7 digit income level dream your taxes arent a burden. You live just fine whether they are 25% OR 35%.

 

[norwegen]

I doubt if the taxes on your single-wide are that much. You probably just rent it anyway.

Hard truth. Correct. Single-wides are not subject to property taxes. They are registered as motor vehicles instead.

Much cheaper.

 

[Meister]

Without getting silly and insulting explain this:

The U.S. slashed top-tier federal tax rates starting in the early 1980s. Since then, we’ve collected a smaller share of total income from the very top, while repeatedly financing those tax cuts with deficits and debt rather than growth.

The predictable result isn’t controversial: the top 1% now owns about 32% of all U.S. wealth, while the bottom 50% owns just ~2–3% combined...despite being half the population. Meanwhile, the top 0.1% alone holds more wealth than the entire bottom 80% did in the late 1970s.

At the same time, median wages have barely kept pace with inflation while productivity has risen over 70% since 1980, meaning most gains flowed upward, not downward.

If the goal of an economic system is long-term stability, broad prosperity, and social cohesion, why would anyone believe today's framework is a healthy or sustainable equilibrium?

What you fail to understand is the fact no matter how much the rich are taxed, the money taken away from
actual rich people will not filter down to the middle and lower class. It just means the government has that
much more to squander, pilfer, or steal.
For being 'upper tier', you're pretty stupid when it comes to reality.

 

[1srelluc]

Without getting silly and insulting explain this:

The U.S. slashed top-tier federal tax rates starting in the early 1980s. Since then, we’ve collected a smaller share of total income from the very top, while repeatedly financing those tax cuts with deficits and debt rather than growth.

The predictable result isn’t controversial: the top 1% now owns about 32% of all U.S. wealth, while the bottom 50% owns just ~2–3% combined...despite being half the population. Meanwhile, the top 0.1% alone holds more wealth than the entire bottom 80% did in the late 1970s.

At the same time, median wages have barely kept pace with inflation while productivity has risen over 70% since 1980, meaning most gains flowed upward, not downward.

If the goal of an economic system is long-term stability, broad prosperity, and social cohesion, why would anyone believe today's framework is a healthy or sustainable equilibrium?

 

[norwegen]

The hard truth of middle age: I take back all those times I refused to take a nap when I was a child.