Happy Columbus Day!

[Curried Goats]

Awww. Are his fee fees hurt?

 

[el midgetron]

 

[Curried Goats]

Now look at today's white demographic numbers in the census over the last two decades....

Pure white births down to the point they can't keep pace with pure white deaths while mixed race births are up over 200%. You're getting cuckolded out of existence.

 

[blackhawk]

The things some people go out of their way to be offended by is truly hilarious.

 

[ESay]

Oh yeah, even on genocide you believe the myth of the Nobel Indian. The same Indians who built giant pyramids for ritual human sacrifice no less

The communities whose way of living was murder and pillage are nowhere 'nobel' in my book.

The Europeans in North America literally had to round-up all the remaining Indians and move them onto reservations. Why not just kill them? Heck of a lot easier. Heck of a lot more cost effective. What kind of “genocide” is that?

Has there ever been another genocide where they purposely preserved 10% of the population. Granted them land and legal sovereignty? Attempted to educate them to attempt to integrate them into their own society? Then venerated those people as symbols of their National heritage and Identity

They were not purposefully preserved, they just managed to survive. No one granted them land, they just were pushed out to this land which the colonists viewed as useless. And yes, the policy that eliminates 90% of the population even if you don't put a bullet in someone's forehead is genocide. No matter how you try to spin that.

They were closed in their own communities for generations, discriminated, and even forbidden to move out of these enclosed areas.

All that cute things you described in the last paragraph started when? Less than a generation ago? How generous.

Another question?

 

[el midgetron]

They were not purposefully preserved, they just managed to survive. No one granted them land, they just were pushed out to this land which the colonists viewed as useless. And yes, the policy that eliminates 90% of the population even if you don't put a bullet in someone's forehead is genocide. No matter how you try to spin that.

They were closed in their own communities for generations, discriminated, and even forbidden to move out of these enclosed areas.

No, according to you the British had a “cleanse” the land policy. They could have easily killed all the Indians in North America. So if your genocide thesis is correct the only explanation 10% were purposely spared. Why?

The Indian Removal act of 1830 was for the relocation of the Indians to less desirable land, not for their extermination.

The Indians didn’t “manage to survive” they were conquered, rounded-up, disarmed and relocated. They were granted sovereign land of their own and given a western education.

All that cute things you described in the last paragraph started when? Less than a generation ago? How generous.

Another question?

Not at all true. The US started minting coins featuring Native Americans back in 1859 with the Indian Head Penny. That’s 31 years before Wounded Knee. The Buffalo nickel began minting in 1913. And there were a few denominations of GOLD coins minted along the way as well.

Seems odd to honor Native Americans as symbols of America’s national identity and cultural heritage if you are trying to “cleanse” the land of them.

 

[Curried Goats]

No, according to you the British had a “cleanse” the land policy. They could have easily killed all the Indians in North America. So if your genocide thesis is correct the only explanation 10% were purposely spared. Why?

The Indian Removal act of 1830 was for the relocation of the Indians to less desirable land, not for their extermination.

The Indians didn’t “manage to survive” they were conquered, rounded-up, disarmed and relocated. They were granted sovereign land of their own and given a western education.

Not at all true. The US started minting coins featuring Native Americans back in 1859 with the Indian Head Penny. That’s 31 years before Wounded Knee. The Buffalo nickel began minting in 1913. And there were a few denominations of GOLD coins minted along the way as well.

Seems odd to honor Native Americans as symbols of America’s national identity and cultural heritage if you are trying to “cleanse” the land of them.

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It's the shame that causes these sorts of compulsions. We immigrants however don't have any problem shitting on and pushing white American culture towards extinction.

 

[el midgetron]

English speakers, using a plethora of American technology, wearing Western Civilization styles of clothing, protected by laws written by white men, fully immersed in “white American culture” yet muses about making it all extinct………

Multi-culturalism is “white American culture”.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Just another government employee holiday. Eliminate it.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

 

[Curried Goats]

English speakers, using a plethora of American technology, wearing Western Civilization styles of clothing, protected by laws written by white men, fully immersed in “white American culture” yet muses about making it all extinct………

Multi-culturalism is “white American culture”.

Sounds like we're taking all your stuff while making you minorities in your own country. It also sounds like you want a participation trophy for the invention of the t-shirt.


Also, a, quick Google search seems to think the oldest shirts ever discovered have come from ancient Egypt.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Columbus was a Progressive, put his life on the line to prove the world wasn't flat.

why do Progressives hate him?

That word… “progressive”….

I don’t think it means what you think it means.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

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Go ahead and give your house/land back to whatever original tribe owned it (not the tribes that conquered them, the original)

Not going to? Then STFU

 

[TNHarley]

Go ahead and give your house/land back to whatever original tribe owned it (not the tribes that conquered them, the original)

Not going to? Then STFU

Damn, ya pissy little *****. Its humor. Get a life.

 

[ESay]

No, according to you the British had a “cleanse” the land policy. They could have easily killed all the Indians in North America. So if your genocide thesis is correct the only explanation 10% were purposely spared. Why?

The Indian Removal act of 1830 was for the relocation of the Indians to less desirable land, not for their extermination.

The Indians didn’t “manage to survive” they were conquered, rounded-up, disarmed and relocated. They were granted sovereign land of their own and given a western education

I don't see how this contradicts what I wrote before. The policy that eliminates 90% of the population is genocide. Doesn't matter whether you shoot someone directly, or push this someone to such conditions of life that kill them.

Not at all true. The US started minting coins featuring Native Americans back in 1859 with the Indian Head Penny. That’s 31 years before Wounded Knee. The Buffalo nickel began minting in 1913. And there were a few denominations of GOLD coins minted along the way as well.

Seems odd to honor Native Americans as symbols of America’s national identity and cultural heritage if you are trying to “cleanse” the land of them

Oh yeah, coins. I wouldn't call it 'to honor'. It is rather about usual American hypocrisy. When you got rid of these people, it suddenly became cute to placate them as some sort of national heritage. Especially ironical is the word 'liberty' there. Though, liberation from life and land can also be considered as a sort of liberty.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Damn, ya pissy little *****. Its humor. Get a life.

LOL. If you were mocking the stance, my apologies. I sometimes skim these very loosely

 

[TNHarley]

LOL. If you were mocking the stance, my apologies. I sometimes skim these very loosely

I can not agree with something and still find humor in it.

 

[el midgetron]

I don't see how this contradicts what I wrote before. The policy that eliminates 90% of the population is genocide. Doesn't matter whether you shoot someone directly, or push this someone to such conditions of life that kill them.

Oh, it was an”policy”? Why didn’t you say so? Just show me the policy and clear this right up.

Of course, there was no “policy”. Whose policy would it have been anyway? The British monarchy’s? The colony’s? The US government? A secret conspiracy between all three?

The Indians duked-it-out with the Europeans and got their asses handed to them. They were decimated by disease and lost their territory to a more powerful competitor, European expansion. If there had been a policy to exterminate the Indians, they would all be dead.

“Cleanse the land” doesn’t mean give them land and recognize their legal sovereignty ffs.

Oh yeah, coins. I wouldn't call it 'to honor'. It is rather about usual American hypocrisy. When you got rid of these people, it suddenly became cute to placate them as some sort of national heritage. Especially ironical is the word 'liberty' there. Though, liberation from life and land can also be considered as a sort of liberty.

“Placate” them? So, the Indians weren’t peaceful hippys living in harmony with nature? Did it ever occur to you that maybe if the Indians weren’t pissed off violent savages towards the settlers that maybe it would have worked out better for them?

In fact a lot of the cooperation between the Indians and Europeans was based on the Indians wanting the Europeans to help them defeat other Indians. It turns out that Indians often wanted to exterminate other Indians and would happily have if given the chance.

I would agree to the Europeans being no more noble than the Indians in their pursuit of land and their ability to use violence and wage war. However, not only do I remain unconvinced of some imaginary “policy” of extermination but I also fail to see where the Indians are any more virtuous in the conflict or conquest than the people you accuse of “genocide”.

The Indians were conquered by Europeans, just like they would conquer each other before the Europeans showed up, just like they continued to try to conquer each other after the Europeans showed up. The Europeans didn’t bring any brutality or conquest to the Americans that didn’t already exist here.

 

[el midgetron]

Both fought to defend their tradition of owning slaves….. just sayin

 

[LeftofLeft]

Columbus gentrified US. How is that different vs. what urban Democrats do?