Happy Columbus Day!

That is not a “genocide”.


Oh now it’s a “de facto genocide”? Well that makes sense because it doesn’t qualify as an actual genocide.

There was no policy to exterminate the Indians. There was no intent to exterminate the Indians beyond the conflict and warfare you yourself concede was the status quo in history.
There was not intent, but what matters is the result how this 'intent' ended. No conflict can cause 90% elimination of the overall population. Or, more correctly, it can but at this point it ceases to be a 'conflict' and warfare. This process should be described by another word. And I think 'genocide' is more appropriate.
 
There was not intent, but what matters is the result how this 'intent' ended. No conflict can cause 90% elimination of the overall population. Or, more correctly, it can but at this point it ceases to be a 'conflict' and warfare. This process should be described by another word. And I think 'genocide' is more appropriate.
I think most people consider “genocide” to be a purposeful program of extermination. Most accepted definitions of “genocide” acknowledge a purposeful intent of extermination.

You are using the word loosely, in hind sight based predominantly on just the Indian’s outcome.

It was more than just “conflict”. It was 400 years of disease, displacement, and warfare.
 
I think most people consider “genocide” to be a purposeful program of extermination. Most accepted definitions of “genocide” acknowledge a purposeful intent of extermination.

You are using the word loosely, in hind sight based predominantly on just the Indian’s outcome.

It was more than just “conflict”. It was 400 years of disease, displacement, and warfare.
You can use any word you please. That doesn't change a thing. The European colonists eliminated almost all Native population in the US, the remaining part was discriminated for decades after that. It is not before the mid-20th century when they got to be 'full' US citizens. No more than a generation ago.
 
You can use any word you please.
Well, words have meaning but….. Anyway, since you agree there was no intent to exterminate the Indians that’s good enough for me. We all know how it turned out.


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Well, words have meaning but….. Anyway, since you agree there was no intent to exterminate the Indians that’s good enough for me. We all know how it turned out.


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And we know how it's turning out for you cuck whites today. I suppose you kind of have to live vicariously in the past if you want to be a proud boy white today. Your generation keeps taking nothing but L's.

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And we know how it's turning out for you cuck whites today. I suppose you kind of have to live vicariously in the past if you want to be a proud boy white today. Your generation keeps taking nothing but L's.

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Go start a thread about it.
 
Why do I need to when I can laugh at you in this one? :dunno:
It’s off topic. So man up little BOY. Go start a thread with your thesis and tag me in it. Let talk about it. What you so scared of?

You laugh like a girl, and are a chicken shit dimwit.
 
Well, words have meaning but….. Anyway, since you agree there was no intent to exterminate the Indians that’s good enough for me. We all know how it turned out.


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Well, I think I should add that. While there was not a policy to physically eliminate the Natives (I mean a specific policy designated purely on that), there were a genocide cases on a grassroots level. When the Natives were eliminated just because they were 'Indians'. Though, the opposite cases also were present.
 
It’s off topic. So man up little BOY. Go start a thread with your thesis and tag me in it. Let talk about it. What you so scared of?

You laugh like a girl, and are a chicken shit dimwit.
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Is it the topic about celebrating conquerors. Don't cry like a bitch because you're the one getting conquered today.
 
facts are facts?

like the fact Columbus never set foot on mainland America?
That is not accurate

During his fourth crossing he explored across what we now call Panama. He failed to reach the Pacific coast because he ran out of provisions. Panama was an isthmus which connected south and central America. Which therefore makes it technically part of the main land
 
Columbus died in 1505 at the age of 55. He was such a monster that the king and queen of Spain refused to invite him to the kingdom after his voyage to the Americas because of how evil he was during his financed expedition. Word spread fast about how he and his men raped and tortured and murdered the indigenous people in the Caribbean islands.

He became a pariah. He had to flee Genova (Italy) because he raped a 13 year old girl and hid in Spain, where he was broke and bedridden and finally died while his relatives shunned him from the public due to the unthinkable acts he did while at sea. When he died, he was never recognized as an explorer or discoverer of a new world. He was thought of as a “gross character with Gonorrhea, who butchered kids.”

Many Years later, when Settlers were colonizing North America, they needed a white hero to name as the person who discovered the land to justify their colonization and mistreatment of Native Americans. they randomly chose Christofo Colombo because his name had “Christ” in it, and to make it sound more European and Christian, they changed his name to Christopher Columbus, even though he never stepped foot on American soil. Then schools started teaching it. And the rest is history. But the truth is he never discovered anything. He was lost and ended up in a chain of islands. He thought he was in India. He massacred peaceful island civilizations. He murdered men, women, and kids. He tortured and raped. He brought new diseases to each island he invaded. Giving this monster a holiday is insane. We know better. And now we do better. Happy indigenous People’s Day.

#FuckColumbus
Once again he did set foot on the American mainland in what we now call Panama

After which of his voyages are you claiming he was not invited to spain????

He acutally went to Spain after each of them.

He was not lost but yes he did discover a chain of islands. He did mistake it for India on his first voyage but that mistake was corrected by the time he made his last voyage and in fact he knew it was not india but in fact a relalively unknown and unexplored land mass. Which he did in fact discover

Your history is massively lacking fictional and twisted. So we actually do know bettet than you and your revisionist TRIPE

He deserves an honored place in history for his discovery which set in motions the chain which resulted in european migration to the Americas. Which was a net good
 
You can use any word you please. That doesn't change a thing. The European colonists eliminated almost all Native population in the US, the remaining part was discriminated for decades after that. It is not before the mid-20th century when they got to be 'full' US citizens. No more than a generation ago.
Not true.

They did not eliminate all or most.
 
What policy you ask? I thought that I was talking with a grown-up person. What will you claim next? That those tribes gave up their land voluntarily?

I never said that the Indians were something like 'hippies'. I already told you that when answering your questions about Aztecs. What was the point of your questions if you didn't read the answers?

It was genocide. And it is no matter how you people try to spin the facts. Historical justice is inevitable. Actually it is already underway.
"The only good Indian is a dead Indian' was the mantra that guided most of the westward settlers. Generations of hate, fear and mistrust....on all sides.
Reservations are cultural prisons for native Americans...if one takes the broad view.

"Historical Justice'? I'm not sure it really works that way. No matter the outcomes of the future...the White culture will remain paramount in the US for the foreseeable future--even if it is dominated by non-white peoples. We are, after all, writing English...and most of our cultural archetypes conform to European antecedents.
 
"The only good Indian is a dead Indian' was the mantra that guided most of the westward settlers. Generations of hate, fear and mistrust....on all sides.
Reservations are cultural prisons for native Americans...if one takes the broad view.

"Historical Justice'? I'm not sure it really works that way. No matter the outcomes of the future...the White culture will remain paramount in the US for the foreseeable future--even if it is dominated by non-white peoples. We are, after all, writing English...and most of our cultural archetypes conform to European antecedents.
" The only good indian is a dead indian" was no such mantra at all. that is some bullshit propaganda made up by woke progressives.

There was once a general names Crooks who famously said he saw a good indian once who was dead but that was STRICTLY his personal opinion.

It was never a mantra as you claim

Reservations are socialist hell holes it is true but not prisons many leave them and flourish
 
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" The only good indian is a dead indian was no such mantra " at all that is some bullshit propaganda made up by woke progressives.

There was once a general names Drooks who famously said he saw a good indian once who was dead but that was STRICTLY his personal opinion.

It was never a mantra as you claim

Reservations are socialist hell holes it is true but not prisons many leave them and flourish
You really don't know shit. Obviously.
You honestly think that white folks were loving on the natives? I know you're ignorant as fuck..but if you were to read the letters, journals and newspapers editorials of the time you'd blush to learn just how dumb you really are~




BTW..it was Gen. Phil Sheridan who reportedly said that--he denied it.

 
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