Guy's house is robbed multiple times, sets up an ambush, kills two crooks

[Otis Mayfield]

The video is pretty long but there are a lot of details.

So this guy, Vietnam vet, good government job has his house robbed multiple times.

He sets up an ambush and waits for the burglars. He kills them both.

Justified?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Nope.

Katko v. Briney--"The Spring-Gun Case"

h2o.law.harvard.edu

Although I personally think it is

 

[9thIDdoc]

Absolutely. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

[Faun]

The video is pretty long but there are a lot of details.

So this guy, Vietnam vet, good government job has his house robbed multiple times.

He sets up an ambush and waits for the burglars. He kills them both.

Justified?

As there's no duty to retreat in Minnesota, I would say shooting them would be justified. But he didn't just shoot them. He executed them. You're only allowed to use enough force to stop the threat. Seems he went beyond that and continued shooting them even after he stopped the threat. So in that regard, not justifiable.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Nope.

Katko v. Briney--"The Spring-Gun Case"

h2o.law.harvard.edu

Although I personally think it is

I don't think you should kill someone over stolen stuff. They didn't kill simple thieves even in Jesus' day.

Bandits yes, but Bandits killed people.

But if you stole a loaf of bread, they didn't kill you. Maybe cut off your hand, yes, but you'd survive.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Americans are getting just that tired of being preyed upon.

 

[Ringtone]

It would seem the repeated break-ins sent him over the edge. This was definitely murder, but why did he record the encounter . . . what the beep?

 

[sparky]

Americans are getting just that tired of being preyed upon.

while the cops are being told to either stand down, or have their hands tied by the courts

~S~

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Most states have laws against setting up traps or ambushes. So by recording his actions he admits to breaking the law. If he had just not shown the evidence and not over killed the perps yes it was justified. but as he acted nope it is a crime.

 

[JoeB131]

Americans are getting just that tired of being preyed upon.

If Americans were really tired, they'd work to eliminate poverty, addiction and mental illness.

This guy laid in wait and set a trap... which is premeditated murder.

Now, if he flipped on the lights and told them to put their hands up until the cops arrived, that would be different. He just straight up murdered these kids.

 

[TeeDub]

while the cops are being told to either stand down, or have their hands tied by the courts

~S~

He should have just "knee caped" them. Let them limp forever.

 

[Anomalism]

The guy is definitely fucked up in the head. The audio is quite disturbing.

 

[Crepitus]

The video is pretty long but there are a lot of details.

So this guy, Vietnam vet, good government job has his house robbed multiple times.

He sets up an ambush and waits for the burglars. He kills them both.

Justified?

Not even close. First degree murder

 

[Otis Mayfield]

It would seem the repeated break-ins sent him over the edge. This was definitely murder, but why did he record the encounter . . . what the beep?

That was my thought too. If he didn't record it, he might've got off. At least with a lesser charge.

Can you imagine being on a jury and hearing what's on those tapes?

 

[Ringtone]

That was my thought too. If he didn't record it, he might've got off. At least with a lesser charge.

Can you imagine being on a jury and hearing what's on those tapes?

He was definitely justified to lay the trap and apprehend them, perhaps even shoot the first, then call the police, but it is clear that he executed them.

 

[daveman]

If Americans were really tired, they'd work to eliminate poverty, addiction and mental illness.

This guy laid in wait and set a trap... which is premeditated murder.

Now, if he flipped on the lights and told them to put their hands up until the cops arrived, that would be different. He just straight up murdered these kids.

It's not society's fault these kids chose to prey upon an innocent person. Dry your tears.

 

[Anathema]

Justified?

On an emotional level… Yes.

From a legal standpoint… Not in the least. 1st Degree Murder (x2)

 

[Turtlesoup]

The video is pretty long but there are a lot of details.

So this guy, Vietnam vet, good government job has his house robbed multiple times.

He sets up an ambush and waits for the burglars. He kills them both.

Justified?

YES..despite what the government says

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

If the little shit heads had been shot after surprising the homeowner I'd be fine with it.
Him recording the incident and what he said in those recordings put the nail in his coffin.
The guy was obviously a sociopath.

 

[JGalt]

The video is pretty long but there are a lot of details.

So this guy, Vietnam vet, good government job has his house robbed multiple times.

He sets up an ambush and waits for the burglars. He kills them both.

Justified?

The guy is a justifiable idiot for reporting his shooting to the police.

Three S rule: Shoot, shovel, shut up.