About that $600B investment deal with the guy who had Khashoggi murdered.

[Ringo]

So nuke Saudi Arabia?

Oh really? This is the only option you know?
What about sanctions, for example? At least 5% of what they put on Russia.

 

[martybegan]

Oh really? This is the only option you know?
What about sanctions, for example? At least 5% of what they put on Russia.

I was being sarcastic, but the truth is Saudi Arabia is the key to getting peace in the region, and they are slowly moderating.

Pushing them would probably end that. The goal is to get them to sign on to the Abraham accords.

 

[Moonglow]

Like who? I would love to have you present proof that the Saudi was convicted. Say weren't you defending Hunter Biden who actually was convicted for crimes? The person pardoned by Biden who genuinely did have crimes he was convicted for.

Trump has been criminaly convicted

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Khashoggi wasn't "murdered" at all. He was legally executed and given the death penalty.

The deceased was a Saudi subject, and he was on Saudi land in the Saudi embassy when he died.

I guess an argument could be made the execution was "political", but I wouldn't listen to any such argument from an American lib- the same people who condemned Stephen Bannon to hard time for political cause.

Trump is a criminal and convicted felon, that he willingly deals with a murderer comes as no surprise.

 

[Moonglow]

No you wouldn’t, you’re a fucking keyboard coward.

Oh yes, I would.

 

[berg80]

Yes he does.

MBS did everything but give Trump a golden bone saw.

I think the US maintaining SA as quasi-ally in the area as all prez's have done is the right strategy to pursue for the region. trump fostering a personal relationship with MBS, a murdering despot, as he did with Un, is an embarrassment with corrupt intent.

 

[Robert W]

Trump has been criminaly convicted

That as courts will finally rule was a created so called law.
First it was civil.
Next it was not criminal
Prosecutor lied
Judge in the court allowed that lie.

Finally the prosecutor has been charged for a legitimate crime. She is upset.

 

[Robert W]

Trump has been criminaly convicted

It might happen this year. The courts move very slow. Trump will have that reversed.
Trump has powerful arguments.
1. A never used, so called law, that tried to convert a civil claim to a criminal claim, not by the lawmakers, but by a corrupt prosecutor.

To give you one examples. Say you walk across the street and half way there, the light was green and suddenly turns red. Even if true you broke the law, the court considers it civil and not criminal.
However for TRump, the prosecutor converted civil to criminal.

What is worse, she was actually guilty of the same thing.
She is now being prosecuted. For her own crime.

 

[Meathead]

We remember him don't we?

​

Saudi Crown Prince Is Held Responsible for Khashoggi Killing in U.S. Report​

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/jamal-khashoggi-killing-cia-report.html

The guy trump has a man crush on.

​

‘I like you too much’: Trump and Saudi crown prince bask in their friendship​

The crowd applauded as Trump said, “He’s your greatest representative, greatest representative. And if I didn’t like him, I’d get out of here so fast. You know that, don’t you? He knows me well. I do — I like him a lot. I like him too much.”

Bin Salman sat beaming at the president, often placing his hand on his heart in a gesture of appreciation.

“That’s why we give so much, you know? Too much,” Trump said, smiling. “I like you too much.”
Another reason he likes MBS so much may be due to the $2B he gave to Prince Jared to invest. The guy trump said he was dropping sanctions on Syria for as a favor.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/14/trump-and-saudi-crown-prince-bask-in-friendship-during-riyadh-visit.html

Trump Cites $600 Billion in Saudi Deals, but Real Figure Appears Lower
The White House on Tuesday said that President Trump, while in Saudi Arabia, had secured $600 billion in deals with the Saudi government and firms. But the details the White House provided were vague and totaled less than half that number.

And a closer look at the projects the administration provided shows several were already in the works before Mr. Trump took office.

The announcement was made just before Mr. Trump spoke to a gathering of business leaders at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum in Riyadh, where he said the only country hotter than the United States was Saudi Arabia.

“We are rocking,” he said. “The United States is the hottest country, with the exception of your country.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/13/world/middleeast/trump-saudi-economic-forum.html

The unfortunate thing about trump's dealing with ME leaders isn't just their dubious accuracy, or trump's gaslighting (“We are rocking,” he said. “The United States is the hottest country.......despite recording negative GDP growth in Q1), or cozying up to the murderer of a US citizen.

The unfortunate thing, given the recent business deals with ME countries benefitting trump financially, and of course that opulent plane, is the appearance he went to the ME more for himself than the country he represents. That he views the presidency as an opportunity to enhance his personal wealth, his lifelong ambition. That his interests are more his own than ours.

Is a dead Arab worth 600 billion bucks?

 

[Moonglow]

It might happen this year. The courts move very slow. Trump will have that reversed.
Trump has powerful arguments.
1. A never used, so called law, that tried to convert a civil claim to a criminal claim, not by the lawmakers, but by a corrupt prosecutor.

To give you one examples. Say you walk across the street and half way there, the light was green and suddenly turns red. Even if true you broke the law, the court considers it civil and not criminal.
However for TRump, the prosecutor converted civil to criminal.

What is worse, she was actually guilty of the same thing.
She is now being prosecuted. For her own crime.

Until it is reversed he is still a convicted criminal, the majority of highjackers on 9/11 were Saudis, yeah give them what they want Trump and his lapdog Elon

 

[Polishprince]

Trump is a criminal and convicted felon, that he willingly deals with a murderer comes as no surprise.

Trump is in good company. After all, Mandela was a convicted felon too, and so was Jesus H. Christ.

Just because a court convicts someone doesn't mean squat on its own.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is more of a fine line than Trump appreciates. The greatest asset America has is it's reputation as a support of civil liberties and freedom.

You can't just disregard nefarious actions even as you have to negotiate strong economic deals. Yes, all nations engage in criminal activity, I am a victim of such vile abuses. However, there are degrees.

He should at least discuss privately the means in which the Saudis could rehabilitate their reputation. You don't want to be too closely aligned with a nation viewed as a human right violator, it could cost your nation trillions over a few years time and you wouldn't even be aware of it.

The Canuck chimes in yet again when it is none of your f-ing business what we do!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You don't consider hacking a critic reporter to pieces terrorism? You don't consider a repressive regime a problem?

Figures.

He was a terrorist sympathizer himself and bin Laden's publicist.

 

[Robert W]

Until it is reversed he is still a convicted criminal, the majority of highjackers on 9/11 were Saudis, yeah give them what they want Trump and his lapdog Elon

Not in America other than one stupid state. Well how come you spin?

 

[berg80]

That as courts will finally rule was a created so called law.
First it was civil.
Next it was not criminal
Prosecutor lied
Judge in the court allowed that lie.

Finally the prosecutor has been charged for a legitimate crime. She is upset.

New York AG Letitia James Becomes Latest Target of Trump’s Revenge Tour​

The Trump administration has opened an investigation into New York Attorney General Letitia James, one of President Donald Trump’s foremost adversaries.

The probe, which the Albany Times Union first reported last week concerns allegations that James committed fraud by lying on loan and bank documents to obtain better mortgage rates, raises alarm that she may be the next target of Trump’s broad retribution campaign.

James won a $454 million judgement by suing Trump and his family over allegations of faulty business practices and she for years has been among several Democratic state attorneys general who consistently challenge Trump’s policies.

New York AG Letitia James Becomes Latest Target of Trump’s Revenge Tour

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

To the best of my knowledge she hasn't been charged.

 

[berg80]

He was a terrorist sympathizer himself and bin Laden's publicist.

Can you prove it? That would be an improvement on MBS who had Khashoggi executed because he was a critic of the regime. Not because he was found to be guilty of anything.

 

[Robert W]

Until it is reversed he is still a convicted criminal, the majority of highjackers on 9/11 were Saudis, yeah give them what they want Trump and his lapdog Elon

We no doubt have some convicted criminals posting here. If they opened up, no doubt you would still deal with them. Suppose we poll who admits to being a criminal?

Were you ever convicted of any crime?
As to me, I have never been court over any crimes. I have no arrest record.
Trump has yet he is president.

 

[Robert W]

New York AG Letitia James Becomes Latest Target of Trump’s Revenge Tour​

The Trump administration has opened an investigation into New York Attorney General Letitia James, one of President Donald Trump’s foremost adversaries.

The probe, which the Albany Times Union first reported last week concerns allegations that James committed fraud by lying on loan and bank documents to obtain better mortgage rates, raises alarm that she may be the next target of Trump’s broad retribution campaign.

James won a $454 million judgement by suing Trump and his family over allegations of faulty business practices and she for years has been among several Democratic state attorneys general who consistently challenge Trump’s policies.

New York AG Letitia James Becomes Latest Target of Trump’s Revenge Tour

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

To the best of my knowledge she hasn't been charged.

That woman abused law. Now she is going to face trial for what she accused Trump for. Will she be called innocent? Well she sure made a living falsely convicting people. She deserves what she did to Trump.

 

[berg80]

Trump is in good company. After all, Mandela was a convicted felon too, and so was Jesus H. Christ.

 

[berg80]

As to me, I have never been court over any crimes. I have no arrest record.
Trump has yet he is president.

Because you folks elected a criminal.

In a court filing just before 10 p.m. Friday, Senior Assistant Special Counsels Molly Gaston and Thomas Windom alerted the judge in Trump’s latest criminal case — U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan — to a combative post Trump sent earlier in the day.

“If you go after me, I’m coming after you!” Trump wrote in all caps Friday afternoon on Truth Social, which is run by a media company he co-owns.

The prosecutors said Trump’s post raised concerns that he might improperly share evidence in the case on his social media account and they urged that he be ordered to keep any evidence prosecutors turn over to his defense team from public view.

Feds alert judge to Trump’s ‘If you go after me, I’m coming after you!’ post

Prosecutors say the former president’s message on Truth Social raises specter he might use evidence to target witnesses.

www.politico.com

There's a promise Dotard kept.