Gun Background Checks Pass in Washington

[The Rabbi]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

delusions. crooks won't go through background checks anymore than addicts buy their drugs from pharmacies

when it fails, you will demand more gun laws

The reason why they don't go through background checks is because there's a loophole in the federal law big enough to drive a Mack truck through. All this law does is close those loopholes.

If they have to go through a background check no matter who they buy from, they're they're much less likely to get a gun.

If you say that this law won't do anything then why are you so upset that the law passed? If it's a worthless law you shouldn't have any problem with it.

There is no loophole.
And it should be obvious that compliance with the law requires people to obey it voluntarily. Something criminals are not apt to do.

 

[The Rabbi]

There are thousands of guns in circulation. Millions, actually. Actually like 300 million. Virtually all of them are unregistered and unaccounted for. And guns get stolen every single day.

It's very strange to me that you consider this a situation worth preserving.

Let's hear your suggestion for ending it. You could just as successfully ban kitchen knives.

 

[The Rabbi]

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You're in the minority on this issue.

Homosexuals = The rights of the minority cannot be dictated by the majority.
Gun owners = Why of course the rights of the minority can, and must, be decided by the majority.

You haven't lost any rights.

In fact no one loses any right to have a gun with this law. Those who will be prevented from getting guns lost their right to have one long before this law. When they committed a felony, or if they have mental problems or if they're a domestic abuser they lose their right to have a gun when they committed the original crime or when they were found to have mental problems.

Our society decided a long time ago that those people shouldn't have guns. All this law does is make sure that they don't get them. The honor system we've been using thus far has not worked and has gotten thousands of people killed.

It is an infringement on people's ability to buy and sell their own property unimpeded. That is an infringement on rights.

 

[martybegan]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

delusions. crooks won't go through background checks anymore than addicts buy their drugs from pharmacies

when it fails, you will demand more gun laws

The reason why they don't go through background checks is because there's a loophole in the federal law big enough to drive a Mack truck through. All this law does is close those loopholes.

If they have to go through a background check no matter who they buy from, they're they're much less likely to get a gun.

If you say that this law won't do anything then why are you so upset that the law passed? If it's a worthless law you shouldn't have any problem with it.

We are upset because we know you ***** ass progressives won't stop here. you never do. You are gutless cowards who want to trample on our rights, and the sooner your are 1) irrelevant) or 2) die, this country will be a better place.

 

[The Rabbi]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

delusions. crooks won't go through background checks anymore than addicts buy their drugs from pharmacies

when it fails, you will demand more gun laws

The reason why they don't go through background checks is because there's a loophole in the federal law big enough to drive a Mack truck through. All this law does is close those loopholes.

If they have to go through a background check no matter who they buy from, they're they're much less likely to get a gun.

If you say that this law won't do anything then why are you so upset that the law passed? If it's a worthless law you shouldn't have any problem with it.

We are upset because we know you ***** ass progressives won't stop here. you never do. You are gutless cowards who want to trample on our rights, and the sooner your are 1) irrelevant) or 2) die, this country will be a better place.

The law is impossible to enforce without registration. So guess what's coming down the road in the next political cycle. And of course registration will lead to banning, as it always does.
That is the way of statists: you pass a law to deal with a problem. THe law invariably does not solve the probllen, often making it worse. So you pass another stronger law. That law has unintended consequences that create other problems. So you pass more laws to deal with those problems. And each time liberty is eroded, power is concentrated in teh hands of a few and the basic problem doesnt get solved.

 

[zeke]

it does nothing, and you are too stupid to realize it.

Well Marty, if the law "does nothing" as you say, THEN WHY IN THE **** ARE YOU GUN NUTTER ASSHOLES GOING APESHIT OVER IT? And you don't even live in the state. Good god you ***** are stupid.

 

[M14 Shooter]

just wondering....HOW DO guns get from the manufacturer of guns, in to the hands of millions of criminals? Sure, the Black Market....
BUT HOW DO they get in to the black market??? Are Gun Dealers unintentionally supplying the Black Market? Who is the main supplier? Sure individual guns are stolen from law abiding citizens, but that's small change compared to what is available in the Black Market?
Shouldn't this be what we focus on, in order to stop Criminals from their easy access?

Sure. Let's make the black market illegal.

 

[The Rabbi]

it does nothing, and you are too stupid to realize it.

Well Marty, if the law "does nothing" as you say, THEN WHY IN THE **** ARE YOU GUN NUTTER ASSHOLES GOING APESHIT OVER IT? And you don't even live in the state. Good god you ***** are stupid.

Hey, Zeke. Is English a foreign language to you? Because when he writes the law does nothing, he doesnt mean literally nothing. He means it does nothing to solve the problem it was designed for. It certainly does something: makes it more difficult for a person to buy and sell his property. And criminalizes otherwise law abiding people. The fact that he doesnt live there is irrelevant.

 

[jon_berzerk]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

now if they can just get people to register their guns and follow the law. I can tell you right now it isn't working in NY and CT. people said **** you to mandatory registration of guns. people are still selling guns to each other, probably more than ever now as a matter of fact. and none of it is on record. funny thing about ridiculous laws like these, they are not enforceable.

here is the thing

registering firearms only applies to the legal firearm owner

felons are exempt constitutionally from having to register or attempt to register a firearm

in fact they can not be charged with a crime of failing to register a firearm

 

[The Rabbi]

just wondering....HOW DO guns get from the manufacturer of guns, in to the hands of millions of criminals? Sure, the Black Market....
BUT HOW DO they get in to the black market??? Are Gun Dealers unintentionally supplying the Black Market? Who is the main supplier? Sure individual guns are stolen from law abiding citizens, but that's small change compared to what is available in the Black Market?
Shouldn't this be what we focus on, in order to stop Criminals from their easy access?

Sure. Let's make the black market illegal.

Since most guns come through theft let's outlaw theft!

 

[M14 Shooter]

it does nothing, and you are too stupid to realize it.

Well Marty, if the law "does nothing" as you say, THEN WHY IN THE **** ARE YOU GUN NUTTER ASSHOLES GOING APESHIT OVER IT? And you don't even live in the state. Good god you ***** are stupid.

You cannot imagine why someone would oppose an ineffective and unenforceable law that only serves to restrict the rights of the law abiding - and then you call someone else stupid?

 

[martybegan]

it does nothing, and you are too stupid to realize it.

Well Marty, if the law "does nothing" as you say, THEN WHY IN THE **** ARE YOU GUN NUTTER ASSHOLES GOING APESHIT OVER IT? And you don't even live in the state. Good god you ***** are stupid.

Because again, its only a start, and you lying assholes know it. And a right is a right, no matter what State you are it. This shit only emboldens other grabbers, and the next step in NYC is outright bans, because they have already done everything else to disarm us.

Go play in traffic.

 

[The Rabbi]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

now if they can just get people to register their guns and follow the law. I can tell you right now it isn't working in NY and CT. people said **** you to mandatory registration of guns. people are still selling guns to each other, probably more than ever now as a matter of fact. and none of it is on record. funny thing about ridiculous laws like these, they are not enforceable.

here is the thing

registering firearms only applies to the legal firearm owner

felons are exempt constitutionally from having to register or attempt to register a firearm

in fact they can not be charged with a crime of failing to register a firearm

You just made their heads explode.

 

[martybegan]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

delusions. crooks won't go through background checks anymore than addicts buy their drugs from pharmacies

when it fails, you will demand more gun laws

The reason why they don't go through background checks is because there's a loophole in the federal law big enough to drive a Mack truck through. All this law does is close those loopholes.

If they have to go through a background check no matter who they buy from, they're they're much less likely to get a gun.

If you say that this law won't do anything then why are you so upset that the law passed? If it's a worthless law you shouldn't have any problem with it.

We are upset because we know you ***** ass progressives won't stop here. you never do. You are gutless cowards who want to trample on our rights, and the sooner your are 1) irrelevant) or 2) die, this country will be a better place.

The law is impossible to enforce without registration. So guess what's coming down the road in the next political cycle. And of course registration will lead to banning, as it always does.
That is the way of statists: you pass a law to deal with a problem. THe law invariably does not solve the probllen, often making it worse. So you pass another stronger law. That law has unintended consequences that create other problems. So you pass more laws to deal with those problems. And each time liberty is eroded, power is concentrated in teh hands of a few and the basic problem doesnt get solved.

The smart progressive realize this as a feature, not a bug. The dumb ones like Dana and Zeke are just mindless sheep, fawning over the protective blanket their betters are creating for them.

Baaa Baaaa bitches.

 

[jon_berzerk]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

now if they can just get people to register their guns and follow the law. I can tell you right now it isn't working in NY and CT. people said **** you to mandatory registration of guns. people are still selling guns to each other, probably more than ever now as a matter of fact. and none of it is on record. funny thing about ridiculous laws like these, they are not enforceable.

here is the thing

registering firearms only applies to the legal firearm owner

felons are exempt constitutionally from having to register or attempt to register a firearm

in fact they can not be charged with a crime of failing to register a firearm

You just made their heads explode.

i would wager they do not believe that

--LOL

 

[M14 Shooter]

Our society decided a long time ago that those people shouldn't have guns. All this law does is make sure that they don't get them.

This is, of course, a lie.
You know criminals will still get guns, just like they do in CA, and so you know this law will prevent nothing.

It is impossible to enact legislation that will prevent people from breaking the law.

 

[jon_berzerk]

All gun sales in the state of Washington will now have to go through a background check. It passed with 60% majority. I voted with the majority.

So now it will be harder for criminals, those with mental problems and domestic abusers to get a gun. They won't be able to do it legally in the state of Washington anymore.

Interesting, when it's put to the vote of the people, background checks passes. Clearly the people of our nation want all gun sales to go through a background check. Too bad that the nra can buy gop politicians to prevent the same law at the federal level.

Lives will be saved in Washington because of this law.

Voters approve expanded gun background checks in Washington state - Local - MyNorthwest.com

delusions. crooks won't go through background checks anymore than addicts buy their drugs from pharmacies

when it fails, you will demand more gun laws

The reason why they don't go through background checks is because there's a loophole in the federal law big enough to drive a Mack truck through. All this law does is close those loopholes.

If they have to go through a background check no matter who they buy from, they're they're much less likely to get a gun.

If you say that this law won't do anything then why are you so upset that the law passed? If it's a worthless law you shouldn't have any problem with it.

We are upset because we know you ***** ass progressives won't stop here. you never do. You are gutless cowards who want to trample on our rights, and the sooner your are 1) irrelevant) or 2) die, this country will be a better place.

The law is impossible to enforce without registration. So guess what's coming down the road in the next political cycle. And of course registration will lead to banning, as it always does.
That is the way of statists: you pass a law to deal with a problem. THe law invariably does not solve the probllen, often making it worse. So you pass another stronger law. That law has unintended consequences that create other problems. So you pass more laws to deal with those problems. And each time liberty is eroded, power is concentrated in teh hands of a few and the basic problem doesnt get solved.

The smart progressive realize this as a feature, not a bug. The dumb ones like Dana and Zeke are just mindless sheep, fawning over the protective blanket their betters are creating for them.

Baaa Baaaa bitches.

yes that is what they are aiming for

the mindless sheeple actually do not care

 

[The Rabbi]

Oh look. Here's an article with an interview w ATF agents saying just what i've said all along. Straw purchases account for some number of illegal guns. Hey, let's make straw purchases illegal!
Inside the Black Market for Guns - Forbes

 

[zeke]

it does nothing, and you are too stupid to realize it.

Well Marty, if the law "does nothing" as you say, THEN WHY IN THE **** ARE YOU GUN NUTTER ASSHOLES GOING APESHIT OVER IT? And you don't even live in the state. Good god you ***** are stupid.

Hey, Zeke. Is English a foreign language to you? Because when he writes the law does nothing, he doesnt mean literally nothing. He means it does nothing to solve the problem it was designed for. It certainly does something: makes it more difficult for a person to buy and sell his property. And criminalizes otherwise law abiding people. The fact that he doesnt live there is irrelevant.

You "channeling" Marty now rabbit?

Here's the deal. A bunch of my fellow Americans that live in a state that I don't live in DECIDED through the ballot box that THEY wanted to try an approach to curb gun violence. That is their right. If you all don't like it.......well tough ******* shit would be my response IF I lived in the state of Washington. You and your gun nutters should have been in Washington before the election so you could have "educated" the voting public. But no, you gun nutters didn't do that. You just want to ***** about something.

If as you claim the law doesn't do what was intended, they will find out soon enough. Can even repeal if needed.

Actually what gun nutters are afraid of is the the LAW WILL WORK AS INTENDED. Scares you to death.

 

[The Rabbi]

it does nothing, and you are too stupid to realize it.

Well Marty, if the law "does nothing" as you say, THEN WHY IN THE **** ARE YOU GUN NUTTER ASSHOLES GOING APESHIT OVER IT? And you don't even live in the state. Good god you ***** are stupid.

Hey, Zeke. Is English a foreign language to you? Because when he writes the law does nothing, he doesnt mean literally nothing. He means it does nothing to solve the problem it was designed for. It certainly does something: makes it more difficult for a person to buy and sell his property. And criminalizes otherwise law abiding people. The fact that he doesnt live there is irrelevant.

You "channeling" Marty now rabbit?

Here's the deal. A bunch of my fellow Americans that live in a state that I don't live in DECIDED through the ballot box that THEY wanted to try an approach to curb gun violence. That is their right. If you all don't like it.......well tough ******* shit would be my response IF I lived in the state of Washington. You and your gun nutters should have been in Washington before the election so you could have "educated" the voting public. But no, you gun nutters didn't do that. You just want to ***** about something.

If as you claim the law doesn't do what was intended, they will find out soon enough. Can even repeal if needed.

Actually what gun nutters are afraid of is the the LAW WILL WORK AS INTENDED. Scares you to death.

Hey Zeke, are those goalposts heavy enough?
No one claimed the state couldnt enact such a thing. The claim is its bad public policy. And repealing a law is tough.
It will certainly not work as intended. It has never worked wherever its been tried. Why is it different this time?