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[edthecynic]

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

A "free market" exists only in the text books within the ivy covered walls of the CON$ervative universities.
In the real world there is only MONOPOLY.

I understand that it doesn't exist in your folks basement....but change out of those
pajamas, shave, and get out in the real world.

You will find a relationship between one's efforts and remuneration.
That's called the free market.

There is no "free market." The free market exists only in the fantasy land of elitist CON$ervative academics who have never run a business.

 

[tinydancer]

How much is John Kerry worth?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The best way to reduce welfare is to not allow wealth to concentrate into too few hands

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

A "free market" exists only in the text books within the ivy covered walls of the CON$ervative universities.
In the real world there is only MONOPOLY.

DenseAsABrick, if you ever felt the need to document that you know nothing...this is it:

"...the ivy covered walls of the CON$ervative universities."

Oh, man!!!!

I attended one of those Ivy-universities....

and they sure ain't conservative!!!

And, in the hopes that you might finally get out of high school, here's a taste:



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVsXseZJPg0]Columbia University Fight Song: Roar, Lion, Roar! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Full-Auto]

The best way to reduce welfare is to not allow wealth to concentrate into too few hands

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

Free markets almost never work.

When have we had a free market in history? Reviewing Hamilton's call for the constitution, he discussed in depth how taxes were collected from trade in a variety of republics. Dating back through history. So when have we had a truly free market?

 

[Truthmatters]

when was the most prosperous time in our history?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The best way to reduce welfare is to not allow wealth to concentrate into too few hands

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

when has unfettered markets ever produced what you claim?

Never.

You have to remember though, that conservatism, philosophically, does not object to poverty, squalor, deprivation, etc., in a society;

in fact, the existence of such conditions, from the conservative perspective, is a sign that 'free markets' are working.

 

[tinydancer]

Okey dokey, I'm thinking Nancy. Oh and she runs a non union winery. sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

 

[bripat9643]

The best way to reduce welfare is to not allow wealth to concentrate into too few hands

Yeah, right. That worked great in China and the Soviet Union.

 

[bripat9643]

You have to remember though, that conservatism, philosophically, does not object to poverty, squalor, deprivation, etc., in a society;

in fact, the existence of such conditions, from the conservative perspective, is a sign that 'free markets' are working.

You truly a are a marvel of profound idiocy.

 

[Truthmatters]

When have unfettered markets EVER produced what theright claims they will?


Point to an example in history.

 

[Full-Auto]

Before people question the validity of these, note that this statistic came from Forbes--the worst of all the bootlicking defenders of the rich.

Trickle down economics is the biggest trick on the American people ever. And you boneheads out there still believe it works. There is no excuse for that level of ignorance.

But the real democrat position is such.................................

 

[Truthmatters]

where is your example in history?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

Free markets almost never work.

When have we had a free market in history? Reviewing Hamilton's call for the constitution, he discussed in depth how taxes were collected from trade in a variety of republics. Dating back through history. So when have we had a truly free market?

Slavery was about as close to a 'free market' in labor as you could get. Remember, 'free market' means that government does not interfere with 'market forces'. In a free market the economy is allowed to do whatever the markets allow it to do. If buying, selling, owning, working human beings is profitable, and thus in line with 'market forces',

then in a 'free market' it is allowable. Government intervention to abolish slavery, for reasons in direct conflict with 'market forces', was a direct attack on the 'free market'.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The free market is crucial to freedom.

Unfettered markets are the death of freedom.

Name one "unfettered market"

 

[saveliberty]

Good thing half of us are willing to support the other half then huh?

Oh, you might not want to piss us off.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The best way to reduce welfare is to not allow wealth to concentrate into too few hands

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

when has unfettered markets ever produced what you claim?

I'm going to ignore the word "unfettered" in this context, unless you would care to define same, but will repeat the obvious about capitalism:

" Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.” But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.
Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006
https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2007&month=05



This might be a good time to consider Daveman's original term: "Chickenred:"

Someone who advocates Communism but is too cowardly to move to a Communist nation; who condemns the American consumerism lifestyle while living that same lifestyle.

'That woman at the protest handing out pro-Castro literature is a chickenred...she'd never move to Cuba.'
Urban Dictionary: chickenred


Does the shoe fit?

 

[bripat9643]

I think the GOP running up $12 trillion in debt, including interest, since St Ronnie is the wrong way to reduce welfare.

Democrats were in charge of Congress for most of that debt. Furthermore, 90% of all government spending is for democrat created welfare boondoggles/

 

[Full-Auto]

Free markets almost never work.

When have we had a free market in history? Reviewing Hamilton's call for the constitution, he discussed in depth how taxes were collected from trade in a variety of republics. Dating back through history. So when have we had a truly free market?

Slavery was about as close to a 'free market' in labor as you could get. Remember, 'free market' means that government does not interfere with 'market forces'. In a free market the economy is allowed to do whatever the markets allow it to do. If buying, selling, owning, working human beings is profitable, and thus in line with 'market forces',

then in a 'free market' it is allowable. Government intervention to abolish slavery, for reasons in direct conflict with 'market forces', was a direct attack on the 'free market'.

The point being every government has taxed trade, so where do the free markets come in?

 

[tinydancer]

It's known as the free market!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Better late than never.

when has unfettered markets ever produced what you claim?

Never.

You have to remember though, that conservatism, philosophically, does not object to poverty, squalor, deprivation, etc., in a society;

in fact, the existence of such conditions, from the conservative perspective, is a sign that 'free markets' are working.

Stalin managed to starve over 8 million of my people in the bread basket of Europe.

Was he a conservative?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You have to remember though, that conservatism, philosophically, does not object to poverty, squalor, deprivation, etc., in a society;

in fact, the existence of such conditions, from the conservative perspective, is a sign that 'free markets' are working.

You truly a are a marvel of profound idiocy.

Where in the principles of conservatism do you see a desire to use the government to intervene to 'artificially' alleviate the conditions associated with Poverty?

Where do you not see conservatism trying to get rid of, or at least roll back, the existing government efforts to alleviate the conditions associated with Poverty?