GOP official on Pat Toomey: "We didn't send him there to vote his conscience, do the right thing - or whatever"

[jc456]

My friends, this is what a cult of personality looks like. Sad

It is.

Uncharted territory, at least for America. We may never see something like this again.

Hopefully.

A healthy percentage of Republicans have lost their souls. They replaced their religion with unquestioning loyalty to a cult of personality.

their constituents? that's the way the system works idiot.

And you should really learn what a cult actually is.

 

[DrLove]

They represent the values they campaigned on.
Not people, not all people, not some people.
They campaign on an agenda, the y are voted n for that campaign agenda and they are to apply that agenda.
Its not about anything more than winning the majority of the vote based on your agenda.

As I told the angry lil boy, Romney voted with Trump 75% of the time.
And Toomey voted with Trump 85% of the time.

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Because they voted against him as an impartial juror does NOT mean that they went against their conservative agenda.
Trump was no conservative, and the seditious incitement of a riot sure as HELL isn't conservative.

 

[bripat9643]

Reps are supposed to vote based on the will of their people. If his district is heavily in favor of Trump then he betrayed the people who elected him. If his district isn't then he did the right thing.

Seems simple enough to me. He wasn't elected preacher

Senators do not represent "districts" Murky - They represent all the people in their state.

Which is a district, you ******* moron.

 

[bripat9643]

They represent the values they campaigned on.
Not people, not all people, not some people.
They campaign on an agenda, the y are voted n for that campaign agenda and they are to apply that agenda.
Its not about anything more than winning the majority of the vote based on your agenda.

As I told the angry lil boy, Romney voted with Trump 75% of the time.
And Toomey voted with Trump 85% of the time.

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Because they voted against him as an impartial juror does NOT mean that they went against their conservative agenda.
Trump was no conservative, and the seditious incitement of a riot sure as HELL isn't conservative.

Utter horseshit. You idiots keep making claims which there is no way you can prove.

 

[jc456]

They represent the values they campaigned on.
Not people, not all people, not some people.
They campaign on an agenda, the y are voted n for that campaign agenda and they are to apply that agenda.
Its not about anything more than winning the majority of the vote based on your agenda.

As I told the angry lil boy, Romney voted with Trump 75% of the time.
And Toomey voted with Trump 85% of the time.

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Because they voted against him as an impartial juror does NOT mean that they went against their conservative agenda.
Trump was no conservative, and the seditious incitement of a riot sure as HELL isn't conservative.

sure they did, cause see, he still represents off his agenda. And who provided him that ability to work on it? Trump. so, you're factually incorrect as usual.

 

[bodecea]

My friends, this is what a cult of personality looks like. Sad

A number of local parties in the presidential battleground state have already moved to censure Toomey, even before the vote over the weekend.​

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In Washington County, GOP chairman Dave Ball said party members felt betrayed by Toomey and voted last week to censure the senator.​

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“We did not send him there to vote his conscience, do the the right thing - or whatever he said he was doing". We sent him there to represent us,” Ball told KDKA, a CBS affiliate based in Pittsburgh.​

‘We did not send him there to do ‘the right thing’ or whatever’: Amid backlash, Pennsylvania GOP may censure Toomey - The Boston Globe

Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey is facing widespread backlash from fellow Republicans in the state for voting to convict former president Donald Trump during his historic second impeachment trial.

www.bostonglobe.com

So, they admit they have no con-science, don't believe in doing the right thing..............of course, trump Qultists are inherently dishonest and violent.

 

[22lcidw]

My friends, this is what a cult of personality looks like. Sad

A number of local parties in the presidential battleground state have already moved to censure Toomey, even before the vote over the weekend.​

​

In Washington County, GOP chairman Dave Ball said party members felt betrayed by Toomey and voted last week to censure the senator.​

​

“We did not send him there to vote his conscience, do the the right thing - or whatever he said he was doing". We sent him there to represent us,” Ball told KDKA, a CBS affiliate based in Pittsburgh.​

‘We did not send him there to do ‘the right thing’ or whatever’: Amid backlash, Pennsylvania GOP may censure Toomey - The Boston Globe

Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey is facing widespread backlash from fellow Republicans in the state for voting to convict former president Donald Trump during his historic second impeachment trial.

www.bostonglobe.com

Progs do not do what you spout. Otherwise there ould have been a much reduced rioting the last year. I can not believe these Repub politicians like Toomey are dumb. So they are controlled by something. And they only go so far to give the appearance of representing the people who elected them. Never mind that without the 17th amendment we would have a Federal Senate much more responding to the voters.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Reps are supposed to vote based on the will of their people. If his district is heavily in favor of Trump then he betrayed the people who elected him. If his district isn't then he did the right thing.

Seems simple enough to me. He wasn't elected preacher

Senators do not represent "districts" Murky - They represent all the people in their state.

And?

 

[22lcidw]

what the hell does that have to do with what I said.

The point is....I expect all representatives to put their conscience aside and vote for what their constituents expect of them. Otherwise, we the people are no longer the people....we the people will be how our representatives wish we would be.

This thread is actually criticizing they way things are supposed to be.

We're gonna have to disagree on this. You want your Republican representatives to vote how only Republicans want them to vote. They represent ALL the people in their state, not just Republicans. They must first and foremost vote their conscience. Personally I respect that, even if the guys I vote for don't always agree with me.

I was simply responding to your comment on Catholics. There is no consensus among Catholics with regard to abortion and gay rights as evidenced by the fact that the vote was split between Biden and Trump.

We know Prog politicians vote in bipartisan same party votes...bwhahhaaa!

 

[DrLove]

We know Prog politicians vote in bipartisan same party votes...bwhahhaaa!

Yes, sometimes they do. I don't like every vote Wyden and Merkley took here in Oregon. But they generally represent my interests.

 

[DrLove]

So, they admit they have no con-science, don't believe in doing the right thing..............of course, trump Qultists are inherently dishonest and violent.

Republicans had better catch a clue and disown the violent turn their party took under Trump. QUICKLY or they will go the way of the Whigs.

 

[Hum Dinger]

I realize that this is a bit complicated for Trump supporters to understand, so please read it carefully and try to understand it before replying:

An elected official is generally supposed to represent the will of their constituency - the people who voted for them, the people who voted against them and the people who did not vote. Since the majority voted for them, they should weigh in favor of that majority.

However, that is only true to the extent that it is in keeping with their Oath of Office and any other official Oaths that they've taken per their office.

In this case their Oath taken as U.S. Senator and the Oath taken at the beginning of the impeachment trial overrides any obligation to their constituency.

In fact if they violate these oaths they should be removed from office - regardless of the will of their constituency.

" I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

I solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of (the president’s name), President of the United States, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: so help me God.”

43 U.S. Senators have befouled their oath of office and their Impeachment Oath and should be removed from office!!!!

Spare us your horseshit.

I knew that would be way too complicated for you to comprehend. It was intended for Trump supporters that have some shred of intelligence.

Actually, he is correct. Spare us your horseshit.

Why?

Because it is horseshit.

If it wasn't, then every elected official would have a district wide vote for every decision he/she has to make before making it.

Thats not how it works....as much as you want to say it does.

An elected official votes based on how he campaigned he would vote. If he doesnt, he will be voted out next time.

I mean....you refer to Trump voters as unintelligent....yet you post horsehit like you did?

Then why do they even have an 'Oath of Office'?

They kicked a whole bunch of Senators out of office for supporting the Confederacy - because supporting the Confederacy was a violation of their Oath of office.

No, moron, Senators first obligation is to their Oath of office.

 

[bripat9643]

The only reason Romney got elected is because he led the voters to believe that he supported what they want. Romney is a typical establishment scumbag.

That Trumpy Bear got 70% of the vote in Utah, has NOTHING to do with the impartial juror decision that he made in this particular case.
Mitt Romney voted WITH Trump 75% of the time.

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This was about seditious incitement of a riot. Even Republicans who voted against impeachment believed Dear Leader was GUILTY. They used their ridiculous belief that convicting a president who was no longer in office (even though he was impeached while IN office) as an excuse in order to remain in power. Moscow Mitch is a classic example.

*Translated from the original Russian

'the 75% of the vote metric is meaningless. On the crucial votes, like Supreme Court nominees, he voted against the Republican party. He showed his true colors then. He's a back stabbing triator.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

My friends, this is what a cult of personality looks like. Sad

A number of local parties in the presidential battleground state have already moved to censure Toomey, even before the vote over the weekend.​

​

In Washington County, GOP chairman Dave Ball said party members felt betrayed by Toomey and voted last week to censure the senator.​

​

“We did not send him there to vote his conscience, do the the right thing - or whatever he said he was doing". We sent him there to represent us,” Ball told KDKA, a CBS affiliate based in Pittsburgh.​

‘We did not send him there to do ‘the right thing’ or whatever’: Amid backlash, Pennsylvania GOP may censure Toomey - The Boston Globe

Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey is facing widespread backlash from fellow Republicans in the state for voting to convict former president Donald Trump during his historic second impeachment trial.

www.bostonglobe.com

As if Democrats dont circle the wagons to protect their criminal, unAmerican leaders

 

[bripat9643]

So, they admit they have no con-science, don't believe in doing the right thing..............of course, trump Qultists are inherently dishonest and violent.

Republicans had better catch a clue and disown the violent turn their party took under Trump. QUICKLY or they will go the way of the Whigs.

ROFL! You Democrat Reich minions crack me up. When did you start objecting to violence? Was that before or after you burned down Portland and Seattle? Was that before or after you shot and killed 5 cops in Dallas?

 

[SC Patriot]

They represent the values they campaigned on.
Not people, not all people, not some people.
They campaign on an agenda, the y are voted n for that campaign agenda and they are to apply that agenda.
Its not about anything more than winning the majority of the vote based on your agenda.

As I told the angry lil boy, Romney voted with Trump 75% of the time.
And Toomey voted with Trump 85% of the time.

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Because they voted against him as an impartial juror does NOT mean that they went against their conservative agenda.
Trump was no conservative, and the seditious incitement of a riot sure as HELL isn't conservative.

Trump did what he ran on. Conservative? Not really. But he did what he ran on.
Once a president is impeached he is put on trial with the senate.
57 "jurors" chase to vote guilt base on assumption, presumption and circumstantial evidence.
In a real court trial, a judge would have no choice but to declare a mistrial.
Why?
You can not convict someone based on assumption. presumption and circumstantial evidence. You need witnesses and factual provable evidence.
I will say it again....

If your neighbor who hates you due to your fence being 3 inches above code says you killed a stray dog.........and says he saw you do it......and he produces an audio tape of you saying "I hate dogs" when he asked you why you dont own a dog.....how would you feel if that evidence was used to convict you of killing a dog you didnt kill?

Would you say the jurors applied honesty and integrity to their decision? Or did they apply their disdain for you because you habe a stigma attached to you based on a man who called you a dog killer?

Would it hold up in court?

That is exactly what happened in this impeachment. People hated Trump and they had a free ride to vote against him without worrying about a mistrial. In other words, they got their last licks.

You need to have an open mind to see that.

 

[Hum Dinger]

I realize that this is a bit complicated for Trump supporters to understand, so please read it carefully and try to understand it before replying:

An elected official is generally supposed to represent the will of their constituency - the people who voted for them, the people who voted against them and the people who did not vote. Since the majority voted for them, they should weigh in favor of that majority.

However, that is only true to the extent that it is in keeping with their Oath of Office and any other official Oaths that they've taken per their office.

In this case their Oath taken as U.S. Senator and the Oath taken at the beginning of the impeachment trial overrides any obligation to their constituency.

In fact if they violate these oaths they should be removed from office - regardless of the will of their constituency.

" I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

I solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of (the president’s name), President of the United States, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: so help me God.”

43 U.S. Senators have befouled their oath of office and their Impeachment Oath and should be removed from office!!!!

Spare us your horseshit.

I knew that would be way too complicated for you to comprehend. It was intended for Trump supporters that have some shred of intelligence.

anyone who listens to what you have to say is a moron. 100% of Democrats voted to convict Trump. How is that "voting your conscience?" We all now the Democrat Reich would sell their own mothers for gold, so these claims about honesty and integrity are the most absurd horseshit imaginable

Only an F*cking idiot would believe that Trump was not guilty - which explains why you believe it.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

No, moron, Senators first obligation is to their Oath of office

Does Biden's oath mean anything?

 

[DrLove]

As if Democrats dont circle the wagons to protect their criminal, unAmerican leaders

Sometimes they do - Sometimes they don't.

 

[bripat9643]

I realize that this is a bit complicated for Trump supporters to understand, so please read it carefully and try to understand it before replying:

An elected official is generally supposed to represent the will of their constituency - the people who voted for them, the people who voted against them and the people who did not vote. Since the majority voted for them, they should weigh in favor of that majority.

However, that is only true to the extent that it is in keeping with their Oath of Office and any other official Oaths that they've taken per their office.

In this case their Oath taken as U.S. Senator and the Oath taken at the beginning of the impeachment trial overrides any obligation to their constituency.

In fact if they violate these oaths they should be removed from office - regardless of the will of their constituency.

" I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

I solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of (the president’s name), President of the United States, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: so help me God.”

43 U.S. Senators have befouled their oath of office and their Impeachment Oath and should be removed from office!!!!

Spare us your horseshit.

I knew that would be way too complicated for you to comprehend. It was intended for Trump supporters that have some shred of intelligence.

Actually, he is correct. Spare us your horseshit.

Why?

Because it is horseshit.

If it wasn't, then every elected official would have a district wide vote for every decision he/she has to make before making it.

Thats not how it works....as much as you want to say it does.

An elected official votes based on how he campaigned he would vote. If he doesnt, he will be voted out next time.

I mean....you refer to Trump voters as unintelligent....yet you post horsehit like you did?

Then why do they even have an 'Oath of Office'?

They kicked a whole bunch of Senators out of office for supporting the Confederacy - because supporting the Confederacy was a violation of their Oath of office.

No, moron, Senators first obligation is to their Oath of office.

All wrong, of course. They kicked Democrat Senators out of office because they were Democrats. Nothing in the Constitution says a state can't secede.