GOP could care less about jobs!

[Political Junky]

Obama and Dems think unemployment stimulates the economy and conveniences like bank ATMS and airport kiosks hurt the economy, who would even want to listen to these idiots? Just STFU until you're all booted out in Nov 2012

Can you cite something to back that up?
Cons ran on jobs in 2010 and haven't introduced anything that indicates that they're interested in jobs.

 

[The Rabbi]

Growth is back, but not jobs...

Where are the jobs????

Growth is not back. GDP increased by .3%, which is essentially no growth at all. No growth, no jobs. Pretty simple.
All of this is thanks to the policies of this administration and their allies in Congress. No amount of blaming ATMs, Republicans, typhoons in Japan or anything else will change that.

Companies are making record breaking profits and still are not hiring.

Funny thing is, they aren't citing any policies of the Obama administration as the reason...

Can you name any?

Contrary To GOP Claims, Small Businesses Say Taxes And Regulation Aren’t Holding Back Hiring

Regulations, taxes aren't killing small business, owners say | McClatchy

When challenged, change the subject. Good strategy until you get called on it.
Why aren't businesses hiring? Do you think they're just big meanies? Maybe they want to get back at Obama by leaving their money in bank accounts paying .01% interest instead of getting 20+% return on assets?
The articles you cite are cherry-picked and worthless.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I wish.

Their asses are seriously covered from that eventuality, I suspect.

As long as our resident partisans truly believe that it makes a difference whether COKE or PEPSI wins, then the indpendents will continue to decide based on their two essantially meaningless choices.

Forget third parties, our gerrymandered by both parties FOR BOTH PARTIES legislative process virtually insures no third party candidates can ever attain enough momentum to change CONGRESS where the changes really count.

We are captured in the political equivalent of a Kafka novel.

And the roaches in the Kafka novel are entirely too cocky, too.

I really wish that someone could get a movement started aimed at registered independents to get them to vote for the independent candidates on the ballots instead of the Rs or Ds. There are more than enough independents to get third party candidates elected.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obama and Dems think unemployment stimulates the economy and conveniences like bank ATMS and airport kiosks hurt the economy, who would even want to listen to these idiots? Just STFU until you're all booted out in Nov 2012

Can you cite something to back that up?
Cons ran on jobs in 2010 and haven't introduced anything that indicates that they're interested in jobs.

Pelosi: Food Stamps & Unemployment Give Us The "Biggest Bang For The Buck" - YouTube

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama and Dems think unemployment stimulates the economy and conveniences like bank ATMS and airport kiosks hurt the economy, who would even want to listen to these idiots? Just STFU until you're all booted out in Nov 2012

Can you cite something to back that up?
Cons ran on jobs in 2010 and haven't introduced anything that indicates that they're interested in jobs.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Nancy Pelosi: Unemployment Benefits "Creates Jobs"

Here's Nancy Pelosi saying exactly that.
The GOP has been grappling with the deficit. They are also trying to roll back Obama's job-killing legislation like Dodd-Frank.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Barry had two years with a super majority and couldn't seem to get his act together.

Not true. Democrats had a super majority in numbers only. Blue Dogs kept it from being a functional super majority.

No excuses. The Dems had their chance. They failed to move the country forward. Their legacy will be a piece a legislation fewer than 40% of Americans wanted.
The Dems could have done so much more, but they were more concerned with political cover than anything else.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So on the FIRST DAY that the Congress and Senate come back from vacation, the President wants to schedule a joint session to address them on his new proposed plan for creating jobs in America ASAP.

The President submits the formal request to the Majority Speaker of the House of Representatives....and about 4 hours later is told that ANOTHER time would be more convenient due to "security arrangement" matters and the like.

Since the early 1900's when President's started making actual visits to the House to address them, NO PRESIDENT'S REQUEST HAS EVER BEEN DENIED UNTIL NOW.

Interesting that the very political party that has been wailing for months that they are waiting for the President to present a plan for jobs in America SUDDENLY can't fit the President of the USA in for a quick address.

Now if one is to believe the GOP's favorite pundit Rush Limbaugh, Speaker Boehner rejected the initial request date in order to put Obama "in his place" and not let the President have the upper hand as taking a leadership position....especially since it would coincide with the first scheduled GOP Presidential candidacy debate.

This is just another example to the American people that the GOP is NOT about the general welfare of the people, but about the corporate welfare and secured economic greed of the wealthiest 1 to 3% of the population.

Oh please. Obama and his crew knew damned well there was a GOP presidential campaing debate scheduled LONG in advance of his suggestion to speak before a joint session of Congress.
Can you give a good solid reason why the Congress and the American people would want to through a 45 minute campaign speech under the guise of doing something no one in government can do which is force the private sector to hire people with nothing of substance.
Obama may as well use his time a bit better and go out to try to save his political base.
He's not going to get anywhere if he intends on introducing another federal spending plan.
It's not going to happen.

And there you have it!!!!!!
Campaigning means infinitely more to the GOP than jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO it does not...However there isn't a darn thing Obama can do to create jobs except increase government spending and in TWO stimulus programs, unemployment has gotten worse. This teleprompter reading upcoming this week is going to be much of the same nonsense. More and bigger government with no results.
Your side can spin this anyway you wish. The fact is Obama is going to put people to sleep with rhetoric.
The only way Obama is going to assist in job creation is to admit his past policies have not worked. He is going to have to change course and let the American people know that he is going to get government out of the way of business.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Come on tai/chi you know why Barry scheduled his speech on a particular day. It was a dirty trick that democrats used to get away with back in the days when there was no fair and balanced media and Cronkite was king. Times have changed but democrats seem stuck in the 60's. Anyway it ain't about jobs. Barry had two years with a super majority and couldn't seem to get his act together. Democrats have had a majority in congress for four years including the collapse of Fannie Mae but all they do is whine about the 7 month old 112 Congress. Think about this while you are meditating during your tai/chi class. Government jobs to not grow the economy. They only transfer confiscated taxpayer money from one segment of society to another. The private sector generates money and recently it seems that democrats have become hostile to the concept

DittoTards can't stop themselves from parroting their MessiahRushie's lies. There were only 7 months when the Dems had 60 in their caucus, which included 2 independents one of whom was Lieberman, and ONLY when Kennedy was healthy enough to attend, which was very rarely!!! So in reality the Dems had POTENTIALLY 60 votes from the time Kirk took Kennedy's place until the time Brown was sworn in, just a little over 4 months.

August 8, 2011
RUSH: Meanwhile, we are supposed to forget the Democrats had supermajorities in both houses of Congress and the White House for most of the last two years

Spin....The Dems had the majority in BOTH houses of Congress yet they accomplished very little.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama and Dems think unemployment stimulates the economy and conveniences like bank ATMS and airport kiosks hurt the economy, who would even want to listen to these idiots? Just STFU until you're all booted out in Nov 2012

Can you cite something to back that up?
Cons ran on jobs in 2010 and haven't introduced anything that indicates that they're interested in jobs.

If I site something on point will you admit you're an Obama Fluffer?

Never mind, my brothers took care of it already

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama and Dems think unemployment stimulates the economy and conveniences like bank ATMS and airport kiosks hurt the economy, who would even want to listen to these idiots? Just STFU until you're all booted out in Nov 2012

Can you cite something to back that up?
Cons ran on jobs in 2010 and haven't introduced anything that indicates that they're interested in jobs.

If I site something on point will you admit you're an Obama Fluffer?

Frank, you know better. Once you shine the light of facts on liberals they scatter like cockroaches. You won't hear from PJ on this thread again.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The GOP leadership is not going to care about jobs UNTIL they are in charge of the White House.

IF then...

If you are implying that either party when in the majority can create jobs by political fiat, you are incorrect.
Government creates nothing. It can by design only consume.

 

[freedombecki]

Come on tai/chi you know why Barry scheduled his speech on a particular day. It was a dirty trick that democrats used to get away with back in the days when there was no fair and balanced media and Cronkite was king. Times have changed but democrats seem stuck in the 60's. Anyway it ain't about jobs. Barry had two years with a super majority and couldn't seem to get his act together. Democrats have had a majority in congress for four years including the collapse of Fannie Mae but all they do is whine about the 7 month old 112 Congress. Think about this while you are meditating during your tai/chi class. Government jobs to not grow the economy. They only transfer confiscated taxpayer money from one segment of society to another. The private sector generates money and recently it seems that democrats have become hostile to the concept

DittoTards can't stop themselves from parroting their MessiahRushie's lies. There were only 7 months when the Dems had 60 in their caucus, which included 2 independents one of whom was Lieberman, and ONLY when Kennedy was healthy enough to attend, which was very rarely!!! So in reality the Dems had POTENTIALLY 60 votes from the time Kirk took Kennedy's place until the time Brown was sworn in, just a little over 4 months.

August 8, 2011
RUSH: Meanwhile, we are supposed to forget the Democrats had supermajorities in both houses of Congress and the White House for most of the last two years

Spin....The Dems had the majority in BOTH houses of Congress yet they accomplished very little.

Au contraire, mon amie. They scared the tar outta the American public, who voted in droves for conservatives in 2010.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So on the FIRST DAY that the Congress and Senate come back from vacation, the President wants to schedule a joint session to address them on his new proposed plan for creating jobs in America ASAP.

The President submits the formal request to the Majority Speaker of the House of Representatives....and about 4 hours later is told that ANOTHER time would be more convenient due to "security arrangement" matters and the like.

Since the early 1900's when President's started making actual visits to the House to address them, NO PRESIDENT'S REQUEST HAS EVER BEEN DENIED UNTIL NOW.

Interesting that the very political party that has been wailing for months that they are waiting for the President to present a plan for jobs in America SUDDENLY can't fit the President of the USA in for a quick address.

Now if one is to believe the GOP's favorite pundit Rush Limbaugh, Speaker Boehner rejected the initial request date in order to put Obama "in his place" and not let the President have the upper hand as taking a leadership position....especially since it would coincide with the first scheduled GOP Presidential candidacy debate.

This is just another example to the American people that the GOP is NOT about the general welfare of the people, but about the corporate welfare and secured economic greed of the wealthiest 1 to 3% of the population.

This President has experienced more unprecedented actions by the opposition party than any in history. More cloture's, more filibusters, more blocked appointments and more just plain douchiness than any other. No President had a member of Congress call him a liar on the floor while he was addressing them. No President has ever had the debt ceiling held hostage to ideological demands...and on and on and on.

Not even Bill Clinton, who I thought the right hated with the heat of a thousand white hot suns, had to put up with the kind of crap President Obama has had to put up with.

What is it about this President I wonder?

Yeah ok cupcake. There is an underground racial component. You exposed it!! You get a Pulitzer!
Are your excuse coffers so empty that you must roll out the race thing?
Yeah yeah yeah....I know youe "not saying".,...You're "just saying"....
Please.
Obama is being challenged/criticized because 60% of the country thinks he's doing a shitty job.
Go find something substantive to discuss.

 

[Seawytch]

Growth is not back. GDP increased by .3%, which is essentially no growth at all. No growth, no jobs. Pretty simple.
All of this is thanks to the policies of this administration and their allies in Congress. No amount of blaming ATMs, Republicans, typhoons in Japan or anything else will change that.

Companies are making record breaking profits and still are not hiring.

Funny thing is, they aren't citing any policies of the Obama administration as the reason...

Can you name any?

Contrary To GOP Claims, Small Businesses Say Taxes And Regulation Aren’t Holding Back Hiring

Regulations, taxes aren't killing small business, owners say | McClatchy

When challenged, change the subject. Good strategy until you get called on it.
Why aren't businesses hiring? Do you think they're just big meanies? Maybe they want to get back at Obama by leaving their money in bank accounts paying .01% interest instead of getting 20+% return on assets?
The articles you cite are cherry-picked and worthless.

So, in translation, you can't argue the facts provided...as usual.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Nearly half the people in this country are nuts. They think that 9 percent unemployment with the worst economy in the past 70 years is A thing to reelect a president on. WOW!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama 2012: Don't know how many states there are, can't tell Veteran Day from Memorial Day, thinks Bank ATM hurt the economy and unemployment helps, got our credit downgraded, but wants another 4 year

 

[The Rabbi]

Companies are making record breaking profits and still are not hiring.

Funny thing is, they aren't citing any policies of the Obama administration as the reason...

Can you name any?

Contrary To GOP Claims, Small Businesses Say Taxes And Regulation Aren’t Holding Back Hiring

Regulations, taxes aren't killing small business, owners say | McClatchy

When challenged, change the subject. Good strategy until you get called on it.
Why aren't businesses hiring? Do you think they're just big meanies? Maybe they want to get back at Obama by leaving their money in bank accounts paying .01% interest instead of getting 20+% return on assets?
The articles you cite are cherry-picked and worthless.

So, in translation, you can't argue the facts provided...as usual.

What facts did you provide? Do you think an article that cherry picks opinions of small businessmen is a fact? Do you think your statement that we are in recovery is accurate, even though growth in GDP is miniscule to non-existent?
And typically you avoid answering my question because you either don't know or know that the answer will defeat your argument.
So why aren't businesses hiring?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Obama and Dems think unemployment stimulates the economy and conveniences like bank ATMS and airport kiosks hurt the economy, who would even want to listen to these idiots? Just STFU until you're all booted out in Nov 2012

Can you cite something to back that up?
Cons ran on jobs in 2010 and haven't introduced anything that indicates that they're interested in jobs.

Pelosi: Food Stamps & Unemployment Give Us The "Biggest Bang For The Buck" - YouTube

Obama's Agriculture Secretary Says Rise In Food Stamps Is Putting People Back To Work
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnP4p65c0pY]Obama's Agriculture Secretary Says Rise In Food Stamps Is Putting People Back To Work... - YouTube[/ame]


Chris Matthews shitting all over himself defending obama.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw64pNddmz4&feature=related]Obama-jobs most important.mov - YouTube[/ame]

 

[thereisnospoon]

GOP could care less about jobs!

It’s not that the GOP couldn’t care less about jobs pre se, the issue is more of timing: republicans want Americans to go back to work when it’s politically advantageous to them, not Obama.

MATTHEW....Personally, I'm a Centrist. I believe in elements of both sides. Just not extremes of either.
However, socialism isn't a step toward communism. Most of the European nations are socialist, yet the public is free to vote for whom they please. They can also own property and become rich. It's just that because their governments are socialist in nature, the public has a safety-net, should they need it. I see nothing wrong with ensuring that your people are taken care of. Afterall, they've supported their governments all their lives. Once elderly or unable to do, it is only fair that their government support them.
For the US, I believe in social security and medicare. If you've worked all your life supporting the capitalist system, I don't think it's asking too much for the government to return the favor when you are unable to do so, or having difficulty taking care of yourself. All people in their nation, should have access to health care, nutritious food and a clean, comfortable place to sleep. To not believe so, is to be less than human.

An intelligent, reasonable, and accurate post – consequently it will be lost on the right.

Citizen legislature...Term limits.

Those already exist: Congress and elections. The mechanics of government work fine, the problem is operator error.

Your response re: term limits/citizen legislature.....typical. Certain types of people are frightened of change because they feel that change will upset their little apple cart.
Yes we can elect challengers. However, we have a problem with incumbency. That goes back to my first point. People are resistant even frightful of change. And even though they are pissed at Congress they will continue to vote for the incumbent because they think if they change representatives or Senators, they will lose something.

BTW we do indeed have access to housing medical care and nutrition. Some of us just look to others to provide it to them.
We are a nation of individuals. Not a collective. We are free to choose our career path, education, etc. Problem is over the years our federal government has gone from helping the helpless to funding poor lifestyle choices. There are many people with full time jobs that have children out of wedlock, children with absentee fathers, have over spent or over extended themselves financially, have purchased homes they had no business buying, use drugs, abuse alcohol etc ad nauseum.....
No one is saying we have to behave perfectly. We all make mistakes. This is not about people taking public money for mistakes. This is about people who deliberately or willfully flout the rules of common sense or believe they are entitled to do as they wish without consequences then run to the government to bail them out of their negligence.
Here's the deal..If think people should be taken care of in the public sector, by all means feel free to take care of them.

 

[HenryBHough]

To use Obama and jobs in a sentence without acknowledgment of his reaffirmation of his agenda to kill them is both politically and grammatically incorrect.