Vagabond63
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Post #299Not at all, YOU made the accusation that I had offended Jewish people, I merely asked who? and how?
Show me the offending statement.
You are likening that to Tommy Robinson and the Pakistani Muslims of Rotherham? Seriously?
And I, as a Jew, find those comparisons to Nazi times, sickening and offensive.
Wow. The atrocity that was inflicted on Europe’s Jewish population at the hands of the Nazis beggars belief both in its scale and savagery. As you well know the Holocaust didn’t happen all in one fell swoop, it was incremental, designed initially to “encourage” German Jews to leave Germany. Part of this campaign was a sustained propaganda effort that demonised Jews in Germany, comparing them to sewer rats, perverts and degenerates of all types.
Spin it any way you like, but the fact remains that there are chilling but valid comparisons to be made with far-Right propaganda against Muslims in both this country and the USA, with similar propaganda disseminated by the Nazis in the 1930’s and 40’s. Which is why I’m surprised that as a Jewish person yourself, you should take offence.
Surely the cry of “Never again!” should apply to any minority group and we should all be vigilant and stand up to anyone espousing or inciting religious or racial/ethnic hatred.
Are there evil Muslims? Of course there are, but that doesn’t mean all Muslims are evil. The same applies to Jewish people, Christians, Atheists, Hindus, etc.
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon IS a thug and a criminal, as well as being a racist and white supremacist. Invoke Godwin’s Law till you’re blue in the face but to me, that makes him a modern day Nazi.
This is what I dont understand, that some who's own people suffered horrific persecution can stand by and seemingly support the demonization and persecution of other groups using the same tactics.
I never thought something like the holocaust could ever be repeated but now I am not so sure. I am wstching the erosion and destruction of the institutions and values that protected us from such an event, the rise of rightwing populist authoritarians around the world and the ramping up of divisive demonizing rhetoric.
You dont have to like the targeted groups, but if you are going to stand by and support it, you need to ask yourself who will be next ? No minority is truely safe from these sentiments.
I think this has as much relevence now as it did then, I've just "updated" it a bit,
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Muslim.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."---Martin Niemöller
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