Germany shows us why Republican policies will ALWAYS "fail".

[Toddsterpatriot]

You realize that the party that has run Germany for the last several years is not the SDP but the CDU/CSU conservative coalition? In other words, the German version of the Republican party has been in power since November of 2005.

I was assuming that's why the OP put "fail" in quotes... because a right wing Government has successfully pulled Germany out of recession.

Well, that and lots of exports to China and a currency which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe.

Plus, in an American context, the CDU isn't right-wing. They're kind of like Clinton Democrats, only with universal socialized medicine and no death penalty.

Germany has a currency "which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe"?
How's that?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Kind of hard for Germany to have a currency cheap compared to the rest of Europe when Europe share the same currency.

I think he was thinking of China.

It could just be that Germany is doing better because their government is comparatively more sensible.

A list of European states by GDP growth.
I have no idea of political ideologies by state during the relavant time period.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Kind of hard for Germany to have a currency cheap compared to the rest of Europe when Europe share the same currency.

I think he was thinking of China.

It could just be that Germany is doing better because their government is comparatively more sensible.

A list of European states by GDP growth.
I have no idea of political ideologies by state during the relavant time period.

Yeah, the Euro isn't cheap compared to the Euro.
I don't think the Euro is cheap compared to the Yuan.
They have a trade deficit with China, as far as I can tell.

 

[Photonic]

If Germany's current government was in the United States during the postwar years, they might have a home in the Rockefeller wing of the conservative party. But here is the scary part. By today's GOP standards, conservative german politicians - if you look at their support of social programs - would be considered evil socialists.

For the American GOP: subsides & tax breaks to big businesses that ship jobs to Asian sweatshops is never an issue. But, if government spends one dime trying to educate someone born poor; or if it invests in the middle class - like we did during the postwar years when we lead the world in education and productivity - than the Right cries Marxism.

Germany refuses to impose austerity on her citizens (a.k.a. consumers) in order to deliver the lion's share of its wealth to a small group of its citizens. In order to receive government subsidies... and in order to receive the benefits of publicly funded infrastructure... and in order to benefit from a workforce that was educated by public funding... and in order to gain the legal support for pursing global markets, German companies must contribute to a system which invests in its middle class.

Many of the Americans who fought in WWII were proud of their public education. They would probably detest the rightwing Americans who disparage their government provided education. When America's WWII war heroes got home from the war, their government put them to work building roads, bridges, energy grids, dams, and a vast array of public works - all of which was/is/will always be necessary for commerce and profits. (Do you know what these hard working patriots did with the money provided by their government jobs, which jobs built this country? They purchased things in unprecedented volume (TVs, refrigerators, cars, electronics, homes, college educations a.k.a. upward mobility for their children etc), which lead to the most sustained economic boom in this country's history) Many of our soldiers were sent to college with government secured funding on the GI Bill (evil socialists, all of them!) Some of our war heroes even joined Unions, which gave them the leverage to secure such decent wages that the mother could stay home and raise the kids. (Indeed, the 50s was, ironically, the apex of America Conservatism partly because high union wages-&-benfits allowed the parents to spend more time with the kids > family values> Until Reagan came along and convinced us that if we gave capital cheaper costs (which includes cheaper labor), a utopia would trickle down. Who knew the jobs would trickle overseas instead. Nobody saw that bait-&-switch coming, save maybe the corporations who paid Government to un-burden capital) Thank God Reagan wasn't brainwashed enough in the 50s to make our veterans feel like socialist slugs for taking government jobs and building this country into a kingdom of thriving suburbs.

(Psst . . . Reagan's father was given a Government job by FDR. Funny how that works. Do you think the rightwing even knows this fact?)

Germany protects its middle class as jealously as America protects its hedge fund billionaires. The rest you may ignore

This is about as factual as it gets. I'll give it my backing.

 

[francoHFW]

The Social Democrat countries are hurting because Booosh and his banker pals ruined the world economy, jackazz dittoheads...duh.

 

[editec]

Germnay's leadership is still overtly nationalististic.

Hence they CARE about what happens to their fellow nations in their working classes.

The USA's MASTERS apparently don't much give a crap what happens to its citizens.

They've elected to hire third world workers because by doing so their corporate profit margins are higher.

Germany has a recession and their leaders elect to pay their German corporations to keep people working, abiet on shorter hours.

We have recession and our corporations shitcan millions of workers and nobody say BOO!.

See the difference?

The difference is the mindset (read PATRIOTISM) of the MASTERS.

 

[The Rabbi]

I was assuming that's why the OP put "fail" in quotes... because a right wing Government has successfully pulled Germany out of recession.

Well, that and lots of exports to China and a currency which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe.

Plus, in an American context, the CDU isn't right-wing. They're kind of like Clinton Democrats, only with universal socialized medicine and no death penalty.

Germany has a currency "which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe"?
How's that?

Yeah, the Deutschmark is way below what it should be relative to the Euro.

 

[Toro]

I was assuming that's why the OP put "fail" in quotes... because a right wing Government has successfully pulled Germany out of recession.

Well, that and lots of exports to China and a currency which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe.

Plus, in an American context, the CDU isn't right-wing. They're kind of like Clinton Democrats, only with universal socialized medicine and no death penalty.

Germany has a currency "which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe"?
How's that?

If the DM still existed, it would be 20%-30% above the euro, just like the drachma would be 50% below the euro.

 

[Toro]

Kind of hard for Germany to have a currency cheap compared to the rest of Europe when Europe share the same currency.

I think he was thinking of China.

It could just be that Germany is doing better because their government is comparatively more sensible.

A list of European states by GDP growth.
I have no idea of political ideologies by state during the relavant time period.

No. The strength of the German economy is such that if it still had it's own currency, it would be much higher relative to the euro.

 

[Full-Auto]

The Social Democrat countries are hurting because Booosh and his banker pals ruined the world economy, jackazz dittoheads...duh.

Is that why Obama hired so many of them for his admin, then dems insist on giving out wall street bonuses?

Your stupidity grows on a daily basis..............................

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Social Democrat countries are hurting because Booosh and his banker pals ruined the world economy, jackazz dittoheads...duh.

Riiight because Boooooooooosh (We hates him, my precious! Hates him!!! He stole the Precious Florida chads!) was Predient of Greece and Italy

I can't even imagine ever losing any election to a Party was stupid as yours

 

[Truthmatters]

when in history has what the republican party championed for years worked as promised?


they dont want solutions, they want their fantasy turned into reality.

They would like reality even less if their ideas were implimented.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

when in history has what the republican party championed for years worked as promised?


they dont want solutions, they want their fantasy turned into reality.

They would like reality even less if their ideas were implimented.

Um lemme see, Reagan dumped your home team on the ashheap of history as promised and revitalized the US economy.

 

[Katzndogz]

The education in German is way different from the education in the US. In Germany they have the concept of "failure". When German students graduate they have a real education in all core subjects. When Germans go to work, they are required to really work. Goofing off is not a disability protected by the ADA.

 

[Truthmatters]

when in history has what the republican party championed for years worked as promised?


they dont want solutions, they want their fantasy turned into reality.

They would like reality even less if their ideas were implimented.

Um lemme see, Reagan dumped your home team on the ashheap of history as promised and revitalized the US economy.

what was the debt before Reagan and then after Reagan?

 

[California Girl]

You realize that the party that has run Germany for the last several years is not the SDP but the CDU/CSU conservative coalition? In other words, the German version of the Republican party has been in power since November of 2005.

I was assuming that's why the OP put "fail" in quotes... because a right wing Government has successfully pulled Germany out of recession.

Well, that and lots of exports to China and a currency which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe.

Plus, in an American context, the CDU isn't right-wing. They're kind of like Clinton Democrats, only with universal socialized medicine and no death penalty.

I am aware of that. In fact, I've made the same comment quite often on the board.

 

[Truthmatters]

The education in German is way different from the education in the US. In Germany they have the concept of "failure". When German students graduate they have a real education in all core subjects. When Germans go to work, they are required to really work. Goofing off is not a disability protected by the ADA.

Hmmmm they do it differently than us.

Yeap I think that is what the OP is saying

 

[Full-Auto]

when in history has what the republican party championed for years worked as promised?


they dont want solutions, they want their fantasy turned into reality.

They would like reality even less if their ideas were implimented.

Um lemme see, Reagan dumped your home team on the ashheap of history as promised and revitalized the US economy.

what was the debt before Reagan and then after Reagan?

Did reagen have an all repub legislature?

So shut up hack!!!!!!

 

[Truthmatters]

I was assuming that's why the OP put "fail" in quotes... because a right wing Government has successfully pulled Germany out of recession.

Well, that and lots of exports to China and a currency which is far too cheap relative to the rest of Europe.

Plus, in an American context, the CDU isn't right-wing. They're kind of like Clinton Democrats, only with universal socialized medicine and no death penalty.

I am aware of that. In fact, I've made the same comment quite often on the board.

Could you go get an example?

 

[Truthmatters]

Um lemme see, Reagan dumped your home team on the ashheap of history as promised and revitalized the US economy.

what was the debt before Reagan and then after Reagan?

Did reagen have an all repub legislature?

So shut up hack!!!!!!

hahahahahahahaaha


How many timnes did Reagan raise taxes?