Gee, who could have predicted...

[esthermoon]

I never thought I'd see a lib who I can respect....

I really like your signature

Thanks

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They knew so well that they put an AMENDMENT PROCESS in place for the govt and states to change things when the contemporary world decided it no longer could tolerate the old system.

Yes they did, and good luck in doing that.

 

[francoHFW]

...libs would lose their fucking minds, call for the overthrow of the govt, call for the racist murders of whites, burn the American flag, and call for the assassination of the President - after demanding the GOP accept the outcome of the election - because they LOST and did not get their way?!

Actually, the question should be who DIDN'T see this coming?!

Those are anarchists, punk Viet war protestor wannabees, and black thuggies...they didn't get the news that Trump is reverting to being a Dem WITH GOP support...

 

[Desperado]

They never learned that loosing had consequences since they were brought up where everyone got participation trophies.
Hey Libs, Welcome to the real world!

 

[easyt65]

EQUALS

 

[jknowgood]

...libs would lose their fucking minds, call for the overthrow of the govt, call for the racist murders of whites, burn the American flag, and call for the assassination of the President - after demanding the GOP accept the outcome of the election - because they LOST and did not get their way?!

Actually, the question should be who DIDN'T see this coming?!

We're not doing that.

Yes you pussy ass boot lickers are. You are nothing but babies.

 

[jknowgood]

The best thing hopefully to come from a Trump presidency, is Hillary and possibly Obama will end up in jail. Oh, and all of Obama's legacy will be reversed!

 

[easyt65]

 

[easyt65]

 

[easyt65]

Liberals - Carrying on the 'tradition'

 

[frigidweirdo]

Mob rule? No, the thing that makes any system not mob rule is that there are rights that have to be taken into account. Germany isn't mob rule. You can shout it as much as you like, but it's just not the case. However during the election Trump supporters were calling for this change. Now they're not. Funny that.

Republicans were? When was that?????

Damn, for about the last 2 months, at least. You're going to love this:

President Trump to change politics.

"
President Trump to change politics."

We Need REAL Change...Not Obama's Hope and Change

"WE NEED REAL CHANGE AND WE NEED IT NOW."

"

WE NEED TRUMP."

All the Republicans that are SCARED OF CHANGE, and going to jail are calling

"
All the Republicans that are SCARED OF CHANGE,"

"the fact is that Trump if elected can change the USA for the better more than Washington did,"

 

[frigidweirdo]

Maybe they're annoyed that this is the 2nd time in 16 years that they've lost an election by getting MORE votes than the other side.

Nope, it was 218 to 290, which is less.

Yeah, let's play dumb.

You know, this whole "he or she won the popular vote" is really a canard and not applicable. IF everyone knew that was the way the votes would be counted, then you might have a point. As it is, the candidates campaign completely differently and the mindset of voters in states that really aren't in play (California, NY, TX) would be different as well, so you really don't know how it would have turned out.

We're not talking about not knowing the system. We're talking about changing it so people's votes count equally in the future. Maryland has said it is looking into changing the way it gives its EC votes out. Shouldn't everyone else do this?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Liberals - Carrying on the 'tradition'

They also hounded people because of the color of their skin, or their religion. Who does that sound like?

 

[frigidweirdo]

They knew so well that they put an AMENDMENT PROCESS in place for the govt and states to change things when the contemporary world decided it no longer could tolerate the old system.

Yes they did, and good luck in doing that.

But the argument for some on this forum is "this isn't how we do things, so we won't do that", which seems rather ridiculous. But I guess that's why they call them conservatives, except for all the things they don't like, which they do want to change.... go figure. Anything the people in charge of the Republicans tell them to think, they'll think it.

 

[l.todd]

Maybe they're annoyed that this is the 2nd time in 16 years that they've lost an election by getting MORE votes than the other side.

Nope, it was 218 to 290, which is less.

Yeah, let's play dumb.

You know, this whole "he or she won the popular vote" is really a canard and not applicable. IF everyone knew that was the way the votes would be counted, then you might have a point. As it is, the candidates campaign completely differently and the mindset of voters in states that really aren't in play (California, NY, TX) would be different as well, so you really don't know how it would have turned out.

We're not talking about not knowing the system. We're talking about changing it so people's votes count equally in the future. Maryland has said it is looking into changing the way it gives its EC votes out. Shouldn't everyone else do this?

Many Hillary supporters are indeed talking about her winning the popular vote total as a way to in some measure de-legitimize the Trump win. And there has been talk for some time about changing the system to a popular vote. I believe my neighbor, former Indiana senator Birch Bayh, was part of this effort.

And yes, it does seem anachronistic, because we have changed pretty dramatically from the original "union of states" to form a country to one country made up several divided areas.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But the argument for some on this forum is "this isn't how we do things, so we won't do that", which seems rather ridiculous. But I guess that's why they call them conservatives, except for all the things they don't like, which they do want to change.... go figure. Anything the people in charge of the Republicans tell them to think, they'll think it.

The argument is within the system our founders setup.

During the formation of our government, it was thought that population representation should be our government structure in Congress. This was not fair to the smaller states like in the NE area. So along with congressional representation by population, they created the US Senate so that there is equal power given to those smaller states.

So while areas with more people (and larger states) have more Congressional representatives, they only have two Senators, and it doesn't matter if your state is Rhode Island or California. Each get only two Senators.

If we did away with the electoral college, then we could end up having a few states control the White House forever. It wouldn't even make sense for the less populated states to vote. The electoral college (like the US Senate) helps equalize the power of larger population. In essence, getting rid of our current system would be like getting rid of the US Senate and just allowing Congress to make all the laws. Mob rule.

 

[SixFoot]

How a year can change things indeed!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Many Hillary supporters are indeed talking about her winning the popular vote total as a way to in some measure de-legitimize the Trump win. And there has been talk for some time about changing the system to a popular vote. I believe my neighbor, former Indiana senator Birch Bayh, was part of this effort.

And yes, it does seem anachronistic, because we have changed pretty dramatically from the original "union of states" to form a country to one country made up several divided areas.

When Kerry lost his election bid, the left was in an uproar that the exit polls showed the exact opposite of the other polls taken well in advance of the election. So they (at the time) were suggesting we should elect Presidents based on exit polling only.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Mob rule? No, the thing that makes any system not mob rule is that there are rights that have to be taken into account. Germany isn't mob rule. You can shout it as much as you like, but it's just not the case. However during the election Trump supporters were calling for this change. Now they're not. Funny that.

Republicans were? When was that?????

Damn, for about the last 2 months, at least. You're going to love this:

President Trump to change politics.

"
President Trump to change politics."

We Need REAL Change...Not Obama's Hope and Change

"WE NEED REAL CHANGE AND WE NEED IT NOW."

"

WE NEED TRUMP."

All the Republicans that are SCARED OF CHANGE, and going to jail are calling

"
All the Republicans that are SCARED OF CHANGE,"

"the fact is that Trump if elected can change the USA for the better more than Washington did,"

Were you talking about changing our election process or just change in general? I was under the impression you were saying that Republicans wanted to change the election process to popular vote.

 

[dannyboys]

Maybe they're annoyed that this is the 2nd time in 16 years that they've lost an election by getting MORE votes than the other side.

Then change the system. Work for the Constitutional amendment necessary to make the change.

Though you do need to realize that if Trump lives up to his promises women and minorities may not be able to vote much longer, making it a moot poibt.

So Trump has "promised" to take away the right of women and minorities to vote?????
This my friends is what passes for intelligent debate with a LIB.