esthermoon
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I never thought I'd see a lib who I can respect....
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I never thought I'd see a lib who I can respect....
I really like your signature
Thanks
They knew so well that they put an AMENDMENT PROCESS in place for the govt and states to change things when the contemporary world decided it no longer could tolerate the old system.
Those are anarchists, punk Viet war protestor wannabees, and black thuggies...they didn't get the news that Trump is reverting to being a Dem WITH GOP support......libs would lose their fucking minds, call for the overthrow of the govt, call for the racist murders of whites, burn the American flag, and call for the assassination of the President - after demanding the GOP accept the outcome of the election - because they LOST and did not get their way?!
Actually, the question should be who DIDN'T see this coming?!
Yes you pussy ass boot lickers are. You are nothing but babies....libs would lose their fucking minds, call for the overthrow of the govt, call for the racist murders of whites, burn the American flag, and call for the assassination of the President - after demanding the GOP accept the outcome of the election - because they LOST and did not get their way?!
Actually, the question should be who DIDN'T see this coming?!
We're not doing that.
Mob rule? No, the thing that makes any system not mob rule is that there are rights that have to be taken into account. Germany isn't mob rule. You can shout it as much as you like, but it's just not the case. However during the election Trump supporters were calling for this change. Now they're not. Funny that.
Republicans were? When was that?????
Maybe they're annoyed that this is the 2nd time in 16 years that they've lost an election by getting MORE votes than the other side.
Nope, it was 218 to 290, which is less.
Yeah, let's play dumb.
You know, this whole "he or she won the popular vote" is really a canard and not applicable. IF everyone knew that was the way the votes would be counted, then you might have a point. As it is, the candidates campaign completely differently and the mindset of voters in states that really aren't in play (California, NY, TX) would be different as well, so you really don't know how it would have turned out.
Liberals - Carrying on the 'tradition'
They knew so well that they put an AMENDMENT PROCESS in place for the govt and states to change things when the contemporary world decided it no longer could tolerate the old system.
Yes they did, and good luck in doing that.
Maybe they're annoyed that this is the 2nd time in 16 years that they've lost an election by getting MORE votes than the other side.
Nope, it was 218 to 290, which is less.
Yeah, let's play dumb.
You know, this whole "he or she won the popular vote" is really a canard and not applicable. IF everyone knew that was the way the votes would be counted, then you might have a point. As it is, the candidates campaign completely differently and the mindset of voters in states that really aren't in play (California, NY, TX) would be different as well, so you really don't know how it would have turned out.
We're not talking about not knowing the system. We're talking about changing it so people's votes count equally in the future. Maryland has said it is looking into changing the way it gives its EC votes out. Shouldn't everyone else do this?
But the argument for some on this forum is "this isn't how we do things, so we won't do that", which seems rather ridiculous. But I guess that's why they call them conservatives, except for all the things they don't like, which they do want to change.... go figure. Anything the people in charge of the Republicans tell them to think, they'll think it.
Many Hillary supporters are indeed talking about her winning the popular vote total as a way to in some measure de-legitimize the Trump win. And there has been talk for some time about changing the system to a popular vote. I believe my neighbor, former Indiana senator Birch Bayh, was part of this effort.
And yes, it does seem anachronistic, because we have changed pretty dramatically from the original "union of states" to form a country to one country made up several divided areas.
Mob rule? No, the thing that makes any system not mob rule is that there are rights that have to be taken into account. Germany isn't mob rule. You can shout it as much as you like, but it's just not the case. However during the election Trump supporters were calling for this change. Now they're not. Funny that.
Republicans were? When was that?????
Damn, for about the last 2 months, at least. You're going to love this:
President Trump to change politics.
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President Trump to change politics."
We Need REAL Change...Not Obama's Hope and Change
"WE NEED REAL CHANGE AND WE NEED IT NOW."
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WE NEED TRUMP."
All the Republicans that are SCARED OF CHANGE, and going to jail are calling
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All the Republicans that are SCARED OF CHANGE,"
"the fact is that Trump if elected can change the USA for the better more than Washington did,"
So Trump has "promised" to take away the right of women and minorities to vote?????Maybe they're annoyed that this is the 2nd time in 16 years that they've lost an election by getting MORE votes than the other side.
Then change the system. Work for the Constitutional amendment necessary to make the change.
Though you do need to realize that if Trump lives up to his promises women and minorities may not be able to vote much longer, making it a moot poibt.