Gay Teacher fired

[HenryBHough]

Fine. So do you support taking away government's ability to sanction marriage? So they can only sanction civil unions?

Depends on how you parse "marriage". If it's a bonding based on religious beliefs then government has no business playing at it.

Beyond that, it's entering into a civil union that engenders certain rights. Purely legal matters, especially useful in compelling (not) testimony in criminal cases.

 

[Kosh]

The government isn't forcing that. And maybe the Church is wrong on this. Regardless, their stance is completely trumped by belief in Jesus.

Yes they are in their mind since "marriage" is considered to be a product of religion.

Show me how many churches are against "civil unions" which are actually more legally binding than any marriage.

Fine. So do you support taking away government's ability to sanction marriage? So they can only sanction civil unions?

Can you ask a question that is not loaded with far left propaganda?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Yes they are in their mind since "marriage" is considered to be a product of religion.

Show me how many churches are against "civil unions" which are actually more legally binding than any marriage.

Fine. So do you support taking away government's ability to sanction marriage? So they can only sanction civil unions?

Can you ask a question that is not loaded with far left propaganda?

Can you stop wasting my time by sidestepping the conversation?

 

[auditor0007]

Couldn't decide where this belongs. Since liberals think this is a political issue I will post it in politics.

Gay Catholic School Teacher Fired for Wedding Plans

The man knew the contract he worked under required him to adhere to the Church's teachings publicly.

Most Churches do not abandon gays just for being gay. And the catholic church is similar. BY going public that he was marrying a man that meant he was actively living the gay life style. The Church does oppose that.

Prior to his public acknowledgement that he was a practicing gay the school and the Church had no problem and the contract held. As soon as he went public he was in violation of Church teachings and beliefs.

I do not see how contacting a lawyer will help. Prior to his announcement he was wedding a man the church had no public record that he was a practicing gay. They could in good faith keep him under the terms of the Contract.

Any civil action would be trying to put the Government in church business. And the 1st Amendment says that can not happen.

I don't know why a gay person would want to teach in an environment where their employer tells them that they are going to Hell and that something is wrong with them, when it was God that made them that way.

 

[Noomi]

If the administrators he sent the email to already knew he was gay, then sending the email didn't make his sexuality 'public' at all, unless it went to someone who wasn't aware of his sexual orientation.

 

[tinydancer]

Maybe he believes in Jesus or something

We druids aren't all that familiar with the policies of The Prophet Jesus so you may - or may not - be correct. Care to contribute (sincerely asked) any points of view Jesus may have expressed or which his contemporaries may have asserted he expressed on the subject?

I can't quote the bible or anything like that because I don't know it well enough : /. But I'll take a shot at your question.

Catholics are taught to live our lives through the examples that Jesus set. The New Testament takes HUGE precedence over the Old Testament. There is no mention of the homosexuality in the New Testament. If someone is gay and they believe and trust in Jesus Christ then I have to believe that they are saved.

If they don't believe in Jesus then I have to hope that His mercy extends to them. And I have a feeling that it does.

You haven't read the Word.

Silly person.

 

[tinydancer]

Couldn't decide where this belongs. Since liberals think this is a political issue I will post it in politics.

Gay Catholic School Teacher Fired for Wedding Plans

The man knew the contract he worked under required him to adhere to the Church's teachings publicly.

Most Churches do not abandon gays just for being gay. And the catholic church is similar. BY going public that he was marrying a man that meant he was actively living the gay life style. The Church does oppose that.

Prior to his public acknowledgement that he was a practicing gay the school and the Church had no problem and the contract held. As soon as he went public he was in violation of Church teachings and beliefs.

I do not see how contacting a lawyer will help. Prior to his announcement he was wedding a man the church had no public record that he was a practicing gay. They could in good faith keep him under the terms of the Contract.

Any civil action would be trying to put the Government in church business. And the 1st Amendment says that can not happen.

I don't know why a gay person would want to teach in an environment where their employer tells them that they are going to Hell and that something is wrong with them, when it was God that made them that way.

I guess you missed the part of the dude hanging on the Cross eh?

You know. The one they nailed to some wood? After they beat him down a road?

The guy who said I will die for you? For all your sins? That guy?

 

[Kosh]

Fine. So do you support taking away government's ability to sanction marriage? So they can only sanction civil unions?

Can you ask a question that is not loaded with far left propaganda?

Can you stop wasting my time by sidestepping the conversation?

The far left is good at side stepping conversations that would fall on you. So can you answer the question?

 

[TheOldSchool]

We druids aren't all that familiar with the policies of The Prophet Jesus so you may - or may not - be correct. Care to contribute (sincerely asked) any points of view Jesus may have expressed or which his contemporaries may have asserted he expressed on the subject?

I can't quote the bible or anything like that because I don't know it well enough : /. But I'll take a shot at your question.

Catholics are taught to live our lives through the examples that Jesus set. The New Testament takes HUGE precedence over the Old Testament. There is no mention of the homosexuality in the New Testament. If someone is gay and they believe and trust in Jesus Christ then I have to believe that they are saved.

If they don't believe in Jesus then I have to hope that His mercy extends to them. And I have a feeling that it does.

You haven't read the Word.

Silly person.

Oh please enlighten me wise one

 

[tinydancer]

I try never to get preachy but some days you have to rock.

This is one of those days.

Christ hung up there for us for a long time man. I can't imagine the pain. I can't imagine his talk with his dad. Let's get a grip on it. God. God's your dad. This moment in time has to really suck here. And Christ is hanging out there for us.

 

[tinydancer]

I can't quote the bible or anything like that because I don't know it well enough : /. But I'll take a shot at your question.

Catholics are taught to live our lives through the examples that Jesus set. The New Testament takes HUGE precedence over the Old Testament. There is no mention of the homosexuality in the New Testament. If someone is gay and they believe and trust in Jesus Christ then I have to believe that they are saved.

If they don't believe in Jesus then I have to hope that His mercy extends to them. And I have a feeling that it does.

You haven't read the Word.

Silly person.

Oh please enlighten me wise one

Read the Word.

It fucking rocks. After you get thru the begats,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[tinydancer]

For anyone just trying to understand. Read the OT to the NT cover to cover. It's the most amazing.

 

[Politico]

Interesting that a gay person would choose to work for a "company" whose public policies conflict with his/her/its own beliefs.

That....

He made his choice and it bit him in the ass.

 

[Esmeralda]

Maybe he believes in Jesus or something

We druids aren't all that familiar with the policies of The Prophet Jesus so you may - or may not - be correct. Care to contribute (sincerely asked) any points of view Jesus may have expressed or which his contemporaries may have asserted he expressed on the subject?

It is my opinion that Jesus was gay. He was in his 30s and surrounded himself with other men. He was kind to women, but did not pursue marriage or any kind of sexual relationship with them. If that isn't the definition of gay, what is???

Jesus loves me, this I know.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Problems like this (and contraception) keep coming up because religious institutions are starting businesses and claiming the business is an extension of their place of worship.

Let's ask the real question, the one at the heart of the debate. Can being affiliated with a religious institution exempt a business from following certain laws and regulations?

I don't think it should. When they start a business they are stepping outside the area of worship and should be required to follow the same laws as every other business.

 

[The Rabbi]

Thank you!

My gut feeling was that Jesus didn't comment on the subject - that so much of the religious rancor over homosexuals was manufactured of whole cloth as were so many other aspects of what now passes for Christianity.

Druidism is much safer. We only gotta please the oak trees and they don't say a whole lot.

You could try worshipping wax fruit too. No danger of it dying.

 

[The Rabbi]

Problems like this (and contraception) keep coming up because religious institutions are starting businesses and claiming the business is an extension of their place of worship.

Let's ask the real question, the one at the heart of the debate. Can being affiliated with a religious institution exempt a business from following certain laws and regulations?

I don't think it should. When they start a business they are stepping outside the area of worship and should be required to follow the same laws as every other business.

First off it is people starting businesses.
Second, why should people lose fundamental constitutional rights just because they go into business?

 

[Plasmaball]

Couldn't decide where this belongs. Since liberals think this is a political issue I will post it in politics.

Gay Catholic School Teacher Fired for Wedding Plans

The man knew the contract he worked under required him to adhere to the Church's teachings publicly.

Most Churches do not abandon gays just for being gay. And the catholic church is similar. BY going public that he was marrying a man that meant he was actively living the gay life style. The Church does oppose that.

Prior to his public acknowledgement that he was a practicing gay the school and the Church had no problem and the contract held. As soon as he went public he was in violation of Church teachings and beliefs.

I do not see how contacting a lawyer will help. Prior to his announcement he was wedding a man the church had no public record that he was a practicing gay. They could in good faith keep him under the terms of the Contract.

Any civil action would be trying to put the Government in church business. And the 1st Amendment says that can not happen.

I don't know why a gay person would want to teach in an environment where their employer tells them that they are going to Hell and that something is wrong with them, when it was God that made them that way.

I guess you missed the part of the dude hanging on the Cross eh?

You know. The one they nailed to some wood? After they beat him down a road?

The guy who said I will die for you? For all your sins? That guy?

Sounds like a drama queen.

 

[The Rabbi]

I don't know why a gay person would want to teach in an environment where their employer tells them that they are going to Hell and that something is wrong with them, when it was God that made them that way.

I guess you missed the part of the dude hanging on the Cross eh?

You know. The one they nailed to some wood? After they beat him down a road?

The guy who said I will die for you? For all your sins? That guy?

Sounds like a drama queen.

No wonder you showed up.

 

[editec]

Any civil action would be trying to put the Government in church business. And the 1st Amendment says that can not happen.

That's exactly what the RC churches pederasts thought, too.

And their victims have sued and sued and sued successfully.

The fact that its a church does not give them the right to break the law.