Gay Marriage supporters said this would never happen...

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A few days ago, I got a great big belly laugh from a gay marriage advocate over my assertion that government sanctioning of sexuality through gay marriage would open the door to other less desirable possibilities, like pedophilia.

"Oh, you must be out of your mind-- we know better than to have sex with children!" they chortled in disbelief that I would even argue such ridiculous nonsense. "That will never happen," they said.

Well... here ya go...
'Paedophilia is natural and normal for males'

"Paedophilic interest is natural and normal for human males,” said the presentation. “At least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children … Normal males are aroused by children.”

Some yellowing tract from the Seventies or early Eighties, era of abusive celebrities and the infamous PIE, the Paedophile Information Exchange? No. Anonymous commenters on some underground website? No again.

The statement that paedophilia is “natural and normal” was made not three decades ago but last July. It was made not in private but as one of the central claims of an academic presentation delivered, at the invitation of the organisers, to many of the key experts in the field at a conference held by the University of Cambridge.
Other presentations included “Liberating the paedophile: a discursive analysis,” and “Danger and difference: the stakes of hebephilia.”

Hebephilia is the sexual preference for children in early puberty, typically 11 to 14-year-olds.

Another attendee, and enthusiastic participant from the floor, was one Tom O’Carroll, a multiple child sex offender, long-time campaigner for the legalisation of sex with children and former head of the Paedophile Information Exchange. “Wonderful!” he wrote on his blog afterwards. “It was a rare few days when I could feel relatively popular!”

Last week, after the conviction of Rolf Harris, the report into Jimmy Savile and claims of an establishment cover-up to protect a sex-offending minister in Margaret Thatcher’s Cabinet, Britain went into a convulsion of anxiety about child abuse in the Eighties. But unnoticed amid the furore is a much more current threat: attempts, right now, in parts of the academic establishment to push the boundaries on the acceptability of child sex.


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Now we know from every liberal "cause" that has ever come down the pike, if academia is saying it today, it will be on the legislative docket tomorrow, if liberals have their say.

Here's yet another alarming immoral indicator:
Australian judge says incest may no longer be a taboo

Judge in Australia says incest may no longer be a taboo and the only reason it is criminal is potential birth abnormalities, which can be solved by abortion.

Judge Garry Neilson, from the district court in the state of New South Wales, likened incest to homosexuality, which was once regarded as criminal and "unnatural" but is now widely accepted.

He said incest was now only a crime because it may lead to abnormalities in offspring but this rationale was increasingly irrelevant because of the availability of contraception and abortion.

"A jury might find nothing untoward in the advance of a brother towards his sister once she had sexually matured, had sexual relationships with other men and was now 'available', not having [a] sexual partner," the judge said.
"If this was the 1950s and you had a jury of 12 men there, which is what you'd invariably have, they would say it's unnatural for a man to be interested in another man or a man being interested in a boy. Those things have gone."


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My argument against governmental sanctioning of gay marriage is that once you've established under the law, that sexual proclivity can be a determinate factor in marriage, all bets are off... you can essentially argue for ANY sexual proclivity to be legitimized on the basis of "equal protection" and the Constitution. This is NOT an equal rights issue, it is a MORAL issue with profound ramifications and consequences.

Now, I am not some prudish stick in the mud who hates gay people and doesn't want them to be happy in life. I happen to have some very close gay friends, one such couple who's wedding I attendended in 1986! Did I mention this was in rural Alabama? Of course it wasn't a state-sanctioned "marriage" by law, it was merely a private wedding ceremony on a hillside with a Rastafarian minister and close family and friends attending, but there was no Sheriff Bubba Billybob there to tell them they couldn't do it, nor were there any Bible-thumping protesters preventing the event. They had a cake... not sure who made it for them, but it was there. They had a photographer, went on a honeymoon, we threw rice... they've been together now for nearly 30 years. Curiously enough, neither of them support "Gay Marriage!"

Their viewpoint (and mine, which was adopted from them), is that the government should not be involved with "marriage" at all. That should be left to individuals and churches to define in society, and NOT mandated by the government. Instead, they favor comprehensive Civil Union legislation which would essentially eliminate all government recognition of "marriage" and replace it with simple partnership agreements by contract between any two consenting adults. This approach would ostensibly give all sides what they claim to want. Religious people get to maintain "sanctity of traditional marriage" while gay couples obtain a way and means to acquire the benefits and tax advantages of a couple. It also has an added bonus, in that such a contract could be used for a variety of platonic relationship arrangements, like a daughter caring for her aging mother, or two spinster sisters living together.

It's a purely sensible approach that resolves the issue once and for all.
 
I'm not sure supporters argued it wouldnt happen (some did) as much as "Who cares?"
The goal of the gay agenda is to knock down and destroy societal norms of all kinds. We're well on our way.
 
That "slippery slope" is a truism. If you are going to legalize one perversion, why would you not legalize all the perversions? Why not Incest? Why not beastiality? Why not Man and young boy?

Are their "rights" not as important as the gays? So, are the limp wrists opposed to some guy marrying his sister? How dare they!

Like I said - that slippery slope is a son-of-a-bitch. :cuckoo:


Perverts gonna be perverts..........
 
Gay Marriage supporters said this would never happen...

And 'it' hasn't happened, this is the United States, not Australia.

Consequently your thread fails as a post hoc fallacy.

The thread also fails because there is no such thing as 'gay marriage,' there is only one marriage law, afforded to couples only – same- or opposite-sex.

The issue has nothing to do with 'pedophilia,' the issue has nothing to do with 'incest,' it's ignorant idiocy and demagoguery to suggest otherwise.

Adults will continue to be disallowed to marry children and siblings will continue to be disallowed to marry, as marriage laws are not written to accommodate such configurations, unaffected by same-sex couples entering into marriage contracts that they're eligible to participate in.

Only two unrelated consenting adults and equal partners may marry; marriage unchanged, unaltered, and not 'redefined.'
 
Not quite sure what the point is - Both gay and straight men and women engage in this kind if crap - how did "gay marriage" help contribute to it?
 
That "slippery slope" is a truism. If you are going to legalize one perversion, why would you not legalize all the perversions? Why not Incest? Why not beastiality? Why not Man and young boy?

Are their "rights" not as important as the gays? So, are the limp wrists opposed to some guy marrying his sister? How dare they!

Like I said - that slippery slope is a son-of-a-bitch. :cuckoo:


Perverts gonna be perverts..........

All those other practices are AGAINST the law! No one has an interest in legalizing them except for a handful of very sick people.
 
Gay Marriage supporters said this would never happen...

And 'it' hasn't happened, this is the United States, not Australia.

Consequently your thread fails as a post hoc fallacy.

The thread also fails because there is no such thing as 'gay marriage,' there is only one marriage law, afforded to couples only – same- or opposite-sex.

The issue has nothing to do with 'pedophilia,' the issue has nothing to do with 'incest,' it's ignorant idiocy and demagoguery to suggest otherwise.

Adults will continue to be disallowed to marry children and siblings will continue to be disallowed to marry, as marriage laws are not written to accommodate such configurations, unaffected by same-sex couples entering into marriage contracts that they're eligible to participate in.

Only two unrelated consenting adults and equal partners may marry; marriage unchanged, unaltered, and not 'redefined.'

Yeah, we're a "Nation of Laws", right? Still full of shit I see.
 
That "slippery slope" is a truism. If you are going to legalize one perversion, why would you not legalize all the perversions? Why not Incest? Why not beastiality? Why not Man and young boy?

Are their "rights" not as important as the gays? So, are the limp wrists opposed to some guy marrying his sister? How dare they!

Like I said - that slippery slope is a son-of-a-bitch. :cuckoo:


Perverts gonna be perverts..........

All those other practices are AGAINST the law! No one has an interest in legalizing them except for a handful of very sick people.

Got news for you sonny. Fags used to be against the law, too. My how times have changed.

Again - perverts are gonna be perverts.
 
All those other practices are AGAINST the law! No one has an interest in legalizing them except for a handful of very sick people.

EXACTLY what I was told just the other day. Yet, there are the stories... people arguing that pedophilia is normal and incest is not taboo. This is a conference at a major university (Cambridge) and from a JUDGE in Australia.

Yes... there WILL be interest in legalizing it, as soon as the US declares that sexual proclivity is a legitimate issue of rights under the law. Again, the Constitution states it clearly, you cannot discriminate against any one group of people and give certain rights to another group. Homosexuals cannot be given the right to marry and that right not be extended to other groups on the basis of sexuality. It's unconstitutional.

The only way to resolve this issue and get around government sanctioning sexuality, is to adopt comprehensive Civil Unions reforms as I outlined. That eliminates the sexuality component. Otherwise, "same-sex marriage" is no different than "man-child marriage" or "brother-sister marriage."
 
All those other practices are AGAINST the law! No one has an interest in legalizing them except for a handful of very sick people.

EXACTLY what I was told just the other day. Yet, there are the stories... people arguing that pedophilia is normal and incest is not taboo. This is a conference at a major university (Cambridge) and from a JUDGE in Australia.

Yes... there WILL be interest in legalizing it, as soon as the US declares that sexual proclivity is a legitimate issue of rights under the law. Again, the Constitution states it clearly, you cannot discriminate against any one group of people and give certain rights to another group. Homosexuals cannot be given the right to marry and that right not be extended to other groups on the basis of sexuality. It's unconstitutional.

The only way to resolve this issue and get around government sanctioning sexuality, is to adopt comprehensive Civil Unions reforms as I outlined. That eliminates the sexuality component. Otherwise, "same-sex marriage" is no different than "man-child marriage" or "brother-sister marriage."


What was it that was said to Pandora? Something about, "Once opened, never closed"?

Don't let these perverts fool you. This is just the beginning.
 
All those other practices are AGAINST the law! No one has an interest in legalizing them except for a handful of very sick people.

EXACTLY what I was told just the other day. Yet, there are the stories... people arguing that pedophilia is normal and incest is not taboo. This is a conference at a major university (Cambridge) and from a JUDGE in Australia.

Yes... there WILL be interest in legalizing it, as soon as the US declares that sexual proclivity is a legitimate issue of rights under the law. Again, the Constitution states it clearly, you cannot discriminate against any one group of people and give certain rights to another group. Homosexuals cannot be given the right to marry and that right not be extended to other groups on the basis of sexuality. It's unconstitutional.

The only way to resolve this issue and get around government sanctioning sexuality, is to adopt comprehensive Civil Unions reforms as I outlined. That eliminates the sexuality component. Otherwise, "same-sex marriage" is no different than "man-child marriage" or "brother-sister marriage."


What was it that was said to Pandora? Something about, "Once opened, never closed"?

Don't let these perverts fool you. This is just the beginning.

Yes indeed it's just the beginning. And they'll sit here and lie through their teeth about it, snickering at conservatives and insisting that we're just paranoid. All the while, their academic "role models" in Europe are already setting the stage for the next social atrocity.

"Oh we know better than to want to fuck little kids, Boss!" ...yeah, right!
 
Times have changed and what offended once, does not necessarily offend now.



You're not offended by pedophilia?


Just... Just wow...


You do understand that that is the topic of this thread, right? Or do you just see the words "gay marriage" and instantly feel your knee jerk? Or do you actually support pedophiles?

How could you be against loving a child, you heartless cold Republican you??
 
That "slippery slope" is a truism. If you are going to legalize one perversion, why would you not legalize all the perversions? Why not Incest? Why not beastiality? Why not Man and young boy?

Are their "rights" not as important as the gays? So, are the limp wrists opposed to some guy marrying his sister? How dare they!

Like I said - that slippery slope is a son-of-a-bitch. :cuckoo:


Perverts gonna be perverts..........

All those other practices are AGAINST the law! No one has an interest in legalizing them except for a handful of very sick people.

They have their own organization NAMBLA.
 
LOL! So, making gay marriage LEGAL is a gateway to allowing 6 yr olds to marry? To people getting hitched to toasters and all that other good stuff? Allowing blacks to marry whites was also the end of civilization as we know it along with legalizing booze, giving women the right to vote, etc., yada-yada-yada?

Dude, MOST people are OK with it and the more time that passes, the more antiquated ideas pass away along with the folks that harbor them.

Learn how to swim or you'll sink like a stone - for the times, they are a changin.'
 
I believe the assertion was that courts were not going to approve raping children as a result of gay marriage. Thus far, that appears to be the case.
 
Whoa hold on...So you're saying that Pedophiles are saying that Pedophilia is normal? I'm shocked!

Next thing you're going to tell me that Gambling Addicts say that losing your shirt in a Casino is normal
 
I believe the assertion was that courts were not going to approve raping children as a result of gay marriage. Thus far, that appears to be the case.

Well the courts don't have a precedent yet. And it's not "raping children" any more than homosexual sex is men raping other men. It's perfectly NORMAL for grown men to want to have sex with children... That's not my opinion, it's what these "academics" had to say at Cambridge University.

So now... you DO understand what the "equal protection clause" is, right? It's that part of the constitution which says we can't bestow the right to do something on one class of citizen but not on another. It's exactly why bans on interracial marriage were overturned. But you see, marriage is the union of a man and woman... that's what marriage is. There is no discrimination against any class, you can get married if you're gay, straight or in-between, they don't ask you that when you obtain a marriage license.

When you re-define marriage to include same-sex unions, it becomes something it is not. It is then accommodating a sexual proclivity, whether directly or by implication. You can't just say we're doing this but there is no sexuality involved, that is why you're doing it. Straight men aren't going to marry straight men. The law is not being changed to accommodate them. So you've established that marriage can be changed and redefined to accommodate a sexual lifestyle or preference. And this IS a problem, according to the Constitution.

Other sexual proclivities must be afforded the same rights. The same exact argument for "gay marriage" can and will be made by polygamists, pedophiles, and all kinds of other sexual deviants, because they have the right to equal protection under the law. Cases will be made against the "antiquated laws" establishing age criteria or number of partners, or whether those partners need to be human. Who are YOU to judge them? What gives you the right to deny them what you allowed for homosexuals? ...Not the Constitution!
 

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