For argument's sake, let's say BLM is EVIL.

So, Mac58's continued, undying support for BLM, KNOWING FULL WELL that they are a butt fucking communist front organization, leads me to ONE CONCLUSION ONLY!!!

Mac58 is a FUCKING COMMIE!!!

Goose-step your irrational ass the fuck out of America, 58. You are the fringe left you pretend to despise.

You don't have to pretend all that communist front bullshit. Let it all out.
Do you deny that BLM is a communist organization (or Marxist/Socialist/steal-your-property-by-government-force)?

Yes. It's an equality-before-the-law, don't choke out my life with government force organization. You're just spewing your demonizing nonsense to avoid saying it's always the black guy's fault.
The government isnt choking anyone out. That is an absurd claim.

The police is the point at which government force is applied. Cops are agents of the State. They're the people you call to squash the unruly. How you not know this?
What does any of that have to do with someone choking a man to death?
 
So, Mac58's continued, undying support for BLM, KNOWING FULL WELL that they are a butt fucking communist front organization, leads me to ONE CONCLUSION ONLY!!!
Mac58 is a FUCKING COMMIE!!!
Goose-step your irrational ass the fuck out of America, 58. You are the fringe left you pretend to despise.
Holy crap.

Minor problem: I don't support the organization. I think they're a clear net negative.

Like the Regressive Left, you guys have completely lost your shit. I'd have as much luck trying to communicate with a freaking Jihadi.
 
This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!
 
So, Mac58's continued, undying support for BLM, KNOWING FULL WELL that they are a butt fucking communist front organization, leads me to ONE CONCLUSION ONLY!!!
Mac58 is a FUCKING COMMIE!!!
Goose-step your irrational ass the fuck out of America, 58. You are the fringe left you pretend to despise.
Holy crap.

Minor problem: I don't support the organization. I think they're a clear net negative.

Like the Regressive Left, you guys have completely lost your shit. I'd have as much luck trying to communicate with a freaking Jihadi.

The way you have two threads respecting to organization on the main page sure is testament to that.
 
This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!
You may well be right.

Right now, it seems to me that the definition of "an honest conversation on race" for nutters on both ends, is "letting the other guys admit it's all their fault."

I realize that ideology is pretty powerful, but I still don't understand how an intelligent adult can actually believe that.
 
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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.
 
People say they want to have an honest conversation about racism fine lets start with this racism is not confined to whites against non whites. Racism at it's core is rooted in two things hate and ignorance everyone no matter their race or gender has the emotion of hate and ignorance is not confined to any one race or gender either. So if people want to have a real honest conversation about racism a good place to start would be admitting that all ,of us no matter our race are gender are capable of racism.
 
This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.
Nope...wrong again. It is that White people..who founded this country, introduced slavery to it...designed a system of economic slavery that took a hundred+ years and uncounted lives to partially ameliorate..talking about the labor movement and the robber barons now...allowed Jim Crow to flourish for a hundred years--are still firmly in control of both the economic and political processes. Massively uplifted? LOL! After enslaving the Blacks for centuries...Jim Crow for another century--you have the audacity to claim that the White folk did the Black a massive favor, right?

The entire melanin thing you refer to was invented by whites...just to keep things straight.
 
This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.
Nope...wrong again. It is that White people..who founded this country, introduced slavery to it...designed a system of economic slavery that took a hundred+ years and uncounted lives to partially ameliorate..talking about the labor movement and the robber barons now...allowed Jim Crow to flourish for a hundred years--are still firmly in control of both the economic and political processes. Massively uplifted? LOL! After enslaving the Blacks for centuries...Jim Crow for another century--you have the audacity to claim that the White folk did the Black a massive favor, right?

The entire melanin thing you refer to was invented by whites...just to keep things straight.

Dude, the black countries still have more slavery than there were slaves brought to USA today. Whites ended slavery, the republican party in specific. One of our greatest achievements.

It is time to STFU and GTFO, anti-American, anti-white racist bigot.
 
As some are fond of noting, there are a large number of unarmed white folks killed by the police as well.

They are too militarized.

Their budgets are excessive, and everyone pays for them, despite them only protecting the property of about the wealthiest 10%

They break into homes unnanounced-shoot people in their beds, then charge the survivors with resisting arrest.

They shoot motorists who are licenced concealed carry holders, excercising their second amendment rights

They brutilized members of the press throughout the protests, in spite of the fact that they SWORE AN OATH to uphold a Constitution that expressly forbids any such thing.

The corruption is too deeply ingrained. It is time to start over from scratch. Policing must be done completely differently, And police unions and departments as we know them need to cease to exist.
However ther is the protests for only one group. And say any other group and its fighting time. When the reforms happen, I am telling you that the people in the last few decades that have issues with the empowered, need to make their issue shown to them. The guilty need to be made to pay. Retired or active. I guarantee you. The empowered are laughing a bit ;less at the citizens today. And yet they have learned nothing.
You want to empower to dredges of our society and disempower the cops who stand in their way

and leave honest citizens powerless

The brutal cops we have seen busting reporters and protestors heads, and every person who has defended those actions are the true dredges of society. I'll trust a mentally ill homeless person over any one of them any day of the week. The latter might be unpredictable, but the former is an existential threat and sworn enemy to every ethical person.

Anyone who defends Marxism is a true anti-American dredge of society.

On what basis?

On every single basis such determination can be made. Every single one.

Marxism is the most evil ideology in existence. The highest concentration of Luciferianism possible. And I believe, yes... the current batch has made it even more concentrated of evil than before.

Enemy of the nation.

They fought the nazis in the streets, and in the battlefield. That's certainly on the side of goodness.

Even helped fight the confederacy, which was just as evil. August Willich - Wikipedia
It's amazing how this Critical Theory education thoroughly makes puddin-heads like you the way you are.
If it can't be fixed, you fuckers gotta go.

I'm self-educated. Also not a marxist or marxian. But i'll take up arms along side them if the only alternative is fascism. Never again with that shit.

You are fighting with the fascists, you ignoramus
 
As some are fond of noting, there are a large number of unarmed white folks killed by the police as well.

They are too militarized.

Their budgets are excessive, and everyone pays for them, despite them only protecting the property of about the wealthiest 10%

They break into homes unnanounced-shoot people in their beds, then charge the survivors with resisting arrest.

They shoot motorists who are licenced concealed carry holders, excercising their second amendment rights

They brutilized members of the press throughout the protests, in spite of the fact that they SWORE AN OATH to uphold a Constitution that expressly forbids any such thing.

The corruption is too deeply ingrained. It is time to start over from scratch. Policing must be done completely differently, And police unions and departments as we know them need to cease to exist.
However ther is the protests for only one group. And say any other group and its fighting time. When the reforms happen, I am telling you that the people in the last few decades that have issues with the empowered, need to make their issue shown to them. The guilty need to be made to pay. Retired or active. I guarantee you. The empowered are laughing a bit ;less at the citizens today. And yet they have learned nothing.
You want to empower to dredges of our society and disempower the cops who stand in their way

and leave honest citizens powerless

The brutal cops we have seen busting reporters and protestors heads, and every person who has defended those actions are the true dredges of society. I'll trust a mentally ill homeless person over any one of them any day of the week. The latter might be unpredictable, but the former is an existential threat and sworn enemy to every ethical person.

Anyone who defends Marxism is a true anti-American dredge of society.

On what basis?
Authoritarian Marxism is against the whole idea of freedom for all and the concepts the US was founded upon.

Bashing reporters and gassing peaceful protestors is totalitarian. That is who BLM is fighting against.

BLM is Burning, Looting and Murdering, using civilians as shields. Or pretending to be civilians, which ever suits their evil Marxist purposes.

We all know that cops did a significant amount of the looting. It's what they do during protests in order to discredit their detractors.


Oh my fucking God
What the fuck is wrong with you?
 
You're just spewing your demonizing nonsense to avoid saying it's always the black guy's fault.
These people will simply not admit the obvious. Which, of course, is a slap in the face to those who face this shit as part of their daily lives. But, absolutely devoid of empathy (like their Glorious Leader), the Trumpsters have zero interest in understanding the lives or perspectives of anyone else.

I'll bet you they know the clock is ticking on this shit, whether Trump wins or not. That must be why they're so fucking cranky all the time. :laugh:
 
You're just spewing your demonizing nonsense to avoid saying it's always the black guy's fault.
These people will simply not admit the obvious. Which, of course, is a slap in the face to those who face this shit as part of their daily lives. But, absolutely devoid of empathy (like their Glorious Leader), the Trumpsters have zero interest in understanding the lives or perspectives of anyone else.

I'll bet you they know the clock is ticking on this shit, whether Trump wins or not. That must be why they're so fucking cranky all the time. :laugh:

Wait, you experience racism as part of your daily life?

Mac, have you considered that it is not others who have something wrong with them - it is you.

Personally, I have never experienced racism, since I don't hang out with racists like Mac does. Quite obvious move from a thinking person.
 
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You're just spewing your demonizing nonsense to avoid saying it's always the black guy's fault.
These people will simply not admit the obvious. Which, of course, is a slap in the face to those who face this shit as part of their daily lives. But, absolutely devoid of empathy (like their Glorious Leader), the Trumpsters have zero interest in understanding the lives or perspectives of anyone else.

I'll bet you they know the clock is ticking on this shit, whether Trump wins or not. That must be why they're so fucking cranky all the time. :laugh:

Wait, you experience racism as part of your daily life?

Mac, have you considered that it is not others who have some something wrong with them - it is you.
Okay, got it!
 
You're just spewing your demonizing nonsense to avoid saying it's always the black guy's fault.
These people will simply not admit the obvious. Which, of course, is a slap in the face to those who face this shit as part of their daily lives. But, absolutely devoid of empathy (like their Glorious Leader), the Trumpsters have zero interest in understanding the lives or perspectives of anyone else.

I'll bet you they know the clock is ticking on this shit, whether Trump wins or not. That must be why they're so fucking cranky all the time. :laugh:

Wait, you experience racism as part of your daily life?

Mac, have you considered that it is not others who have some something wrong with them - it is you.
Okay, got it!

It just again shows - nothing you guys plan has any hopes of working. This guy bitches about racism all the time and now it turns out - he has not been able to even eliminate it from his private life. Rather, experiences it DAILY, still after years of bitching.

Meanwhile, no racism here. My parents apparently already took a look, said this is enough, and threw it to trash with one swoop.
 
The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

Nah.....thats just the perception liberals have ingrained in blacks even though they never do shit for the black community.
Every election season we hear about reparations even though we all know it's never going to happen.
 
BLM has a legitimate cause in protesting police brutality. That said, there are those who are out to cause destruction who undermine the group. The ones who castigate the movement only see the criminals while the ones who vehemently support the movement only see legitimate protestors.

Bottom line is that we have bad cops who are a disgrace to the shield while the clear majority are good people.

Seems both groups have bad apples that allow for broadbrush criticism...

So tell me.
Why is it every time a black man gets killed he has a long history of being a criminal and they resisted arrest?
I mean I could understand if these people were upstanding law abiding citizens but they're not.
If they were I'd be right there with them.
 

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