Food Stamps OK For Porn, Tatoos, Jewelry

[PoliticalChic]

There is no true poverty in the United States of America.
That is, material poverty. But there is spiritual poverty, poverty of character.
And there is a virulent political philosophy that encourages taking, rather than earning....
...pleading and demanding based on envy.

Food stamps for those who need food, and cannot provide for themselves...an old and honorable heritage in America: "On January 6, 1657 twenty-eight “Scottish men” signed the Laws Rules and Order of the Poor Boxes Society” in Boston, New England and formed the Scots’ Charitable Society."
http://www.linknet1.com/scots-charitable/menu1/index1.html



But what the Left has made common is a blemish on the nation and the people...

1."Mass Gov. Deval Patrick Vetoes Ban On Using Welfare EBT Cards To Purchase Porn, Tattoos, Manicures Because It Would “Humiliate Poor People”…No surprise he’s a close friend of Barack Obama (Axelrod ran his first campaign for Mass governor).

2. Patrick vetoed the reforms Sunday while signing the state’s $32.5 billion budget.

3. According to the Boston Herald, which first reported the veto, the governor berated the legislature’s stab at banning the purchase of specific items like manicures, tattoos, guns, porn, body piercings, jewelry, and bail by saying the move was “political grandstanding” at a time when such reforms are already on track elsewhere.


4. “I’m not going to do anything that makes vulnerable people beg for their benefits.This notion of humiliating poor people has got to be separated from how we make a program, and frankly separated and disposed of, from how we make a program work and work well,” Patrick said,...



5. Patrick allowed bans on the use of EBT cards in establishments known for the sale of seemingly controversial items — such as tattoo parlors, gun shops, casinos, cruise ships, and adult entertainment facilities —- to stand."
Exposing Liberal Lies: Deval Patrick OKs Porn, Tatoos, Jewelry with Food Stamps




We live in a time when the welfare industry needs to convinced well-meaning folks that there is a 'need.'
Rather it is a 'want.'


Consider the above when you vote.

''5. Patrick allowed bans on the use of EBT cards in establishments known for the sale of seemingly controversial items — such as tattoo parlors, gun shops, casinos, cruise ships, and adult entertainment facilities —- to stand."

got a reading problem PC?

Answered in post #83.

Now, you know that I have no reading problem, Care...

The real question is whether or not you have a judgement problem.

No experience in the real world?

 

[Mr.Nick]

Mike Savage is a douchebag selling the "Poor people have it better than you" myth to Conservatives.......and they eat it up

Bullshit motherfucker......

I've see it first hand, hell it was that type of shit that made hate the progressive party when I was once a progressive. I slowly started to realize all you progressives do is lie and spin the truth. Guess what asshole it's not going to work on me because I've seen it. I've heard what your wealthy elitist masters have to say about the "poor people" and it's all lies..... These "poor people" take pride in the fact they get "Obama money" while they waltz around in their $200.00 shoes and drive around in their $20,000 cars while living off the taxpayer....

You progressives are fucking clueless...

You idiots are like the guy from office space who is playing the 'Gheto Boys' (rap) then rolls up the window when a black dude tries to wash his windshield...... You flakes don't know shit. All you idiots do is sit on the sidelines and throw other peoples money at a bunch of criminalistic losers because it makes you feel all good inside knowing that you support throwing other individuals money at a bunch of gangbaning drug addicts - yet dickheads like you wouldn't drop a dime of your own money in a Salvation Army basket around Christmas -- No because you - in your fucked up mind - already donated by electing progressives into office who steal money and redistribute it to the alleged "needy."

Now get the fuck off your little progressive high-horse and accept reality instead of the illusion you're fed daily by your big ass government masters....

Yes....Americans from all walks of life are clamoring to live in the Ghetto. They all drive Escallades and eat Filet Mignon while they laugh at the taxpayers

You must make Mike Savage proud

You've never been to a ghetto have you??

Yes they want to live in the ghetto - they're proud of their position in society... They get to play victim while they get free money (while your dumbass falls for it). This while they sell dope on the corners and have 15 kids by the age of 30 with 10 different "baby mommas."

I don't know how someone in a designated "impoverished" area can afford 10,000 worth of rims but still claim they're poor....

I don't know how one can drive this and claim they need welfare....

 

[PoliticalChic]

The poor are always going to be fat as long as they can get to food. It's the way they are self-indulgent. They feel so deprived in so many areas the least they can do is eat what tastes good. Poor people will not voluntarily choose broccoli over mac and cheese. You can educate them over the moon and it won't help. The poor don't even care about their health. Whether they are healthy or not will not change any of their activities, they do nothing anyway. Paying for ill health isn't their problem it's yours. They don't pay for health care, you do.

"As a group, America's poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100 percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, supernourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and 10 pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II."
How Poor Are America's Poor? Examining the "Plague" of Poverty in America

 

[GuyPinestra]

There is no true poverty in the United States of America.
That is, material poverty.

How many times have I said that CON$ are always on both sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows at the time??? here is yet another example.

One day CON$ say that poverty is increasing to attack the war on poverty and the next day they say there is no poverty to attack Obama.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/$9-trillion-didnt-end-poverty-what-do

At the Republican National Convention this week, there was a lot of talk about money. Pay raises for firefighters. Money for Swift Boat ads. Money to rebuild Iraq, and so on. One thing the pundits and presidential candidates didn't say much about, however, is how much money has been spent fighting the "war on poverty"--$9 trillion and counting. Yes, $9 trillion.

Yet, as the Census Bureau just reported, poverty in America is up. So what do the candidates propose we do?

The DEFINITION of poverty is up, not poverty itself.

 

[Dick Tuck]

There is no true poverty in the United States of America.
That is, material poverty. But there is spiritual poverty, poverty of character.
And there is a virulent political philosophy that encourages taking, rather than earning....
...pleading and demanding based on envy.

Food stamps for those who need food, and cannot provide for themselves...an old and honorable heritage in America: "On January 6, 1657 twenty-eight “Scottish men” signed the Laws Rules and Order of the Poor Boxes Society” in Boston, New England and formed the Scots’ Charitable Society."
http://www.linknet1.com/scots-charitable/menu1/index1.html



But what the Left has made common is a blemish on the nation and the people...

1."Mass Gov. Deval Patrick Vetoes Ban On Using Welfare EBT Cards To Purchase Porn, Tattoos, Manicures Because It Would “Humiliate Poor People”…No surprise he’s a close friend of Barack Obama (Axelrod ran his first campaign for Mass governor).

2. Patrick vetoed the reforms Sunday while signing the state’s $32.5 billion budget.

3. According to the Boston Herald, which first reported the veto, the governor berated the legislature’s stab at banning the purchase of specific items like manicures, tattoos, guns, porn, body piercings, jewelry, and bail by saying the move was “political grandstanding” at a time when such reforms are already on track elsewhere.


4. “I’m not going to do anything that makes vulnerable people beg for their benefits.This notion of humiliating poor people has got to be separated from how we make a program, and frankly separated and disposed of, from how we make a program work and work well,” Patrick said,...



5. Patrick allowed bans on the use of EBT cards in establishments known for the sale of seemingly controversial items — such as tattoo parlors, gun shops, casinos, cruise ships, and adult entertainment facilities —- to stand."
Exposing Liberal Lies: Deval Patrick OKs Porn, Tatoos, Jewelry with Food Stamps




We live in a time when the welfare industry needs to convinced well-meaning folks that there is a 'need.'
Rather it is a 'want.'


Consider the above when you vote.

Your title is bullshit. This was debunked several times. It's not the Food Stamp program that pays for this. It's State programs that they convey to EBT cards that work like a debit card. Do you think the Federal Government ought to tell states to stop putting their other benefits on EBT cards? I have no problem with that, but I'm not a "States Rights" idiot.

 

[Black_Label]

Food stamps is a different program from welfare, just sayin.

No kidding, the dumb fuck OP apparently doesn't even know how to read their own links,..

Hey ignorant fuck. It depends on what state you're in. Some states will give you basically a loaded debit card for the month and you can do anything you want with it while others give you two different cards one for food and one that is basically loaded with free cash.

Learn what you're talking about before you start twiddling your fingers...

Which one do you live on?

 

[Dick Tuck]

I don't think this is in every state though.

Only in states that want to bundle other assistance or benefits on the EBT cards. The answer is simple. Stop states from doing this.

 

[rightwinger]

Your '2 cents' is worth more than 2 cents!


"Ironically, the one demonstrable nutritional difference between the poor and others is that low-income women tend to be overweight more often than others. That may not seem like much to make a political issue, but politicians and the media have created hysteria over less.

The political left has turned obesity among low-income individuals into an argument that low-income people cannot afford nutritious food, and so have to resort to burgers and fries, pizzas and the like, which are more fattening and less healthful. But this attempt to salvage something from the “hunger in America” hoax collapses like a house of cards when you stop and think about it.

Burgers, pizzas and the like cost more than food that you can buy at a store and cook yourself. If you can afford junk food, you can certainly afford healthier food. An article in the New York Times of Sept. 25 by Mark Bittman showed that you can cook a meal for four at half the cost of a meal from a burger restaurant. So far, so good. But then Bittman says that the problem is “to get people to see cooking as a joy.” For this, he says, “we need action both cultural and political.” In other words, the nanny state to the rescue!"
Read more: SOWELL: Politicians need poverty to justify programs

Cooking is a lost art in this country. Not just among the poor, but in middle class and wealthy families. Everything is takeout, preprocessed or microwaveable.

How many women know how to bake bread? How many can make a Thanksgiving dinner for their family? I see wealthy people with $100,000 kitchens with restaurant quality appliances who can't fry an egg

Not me....I'm a foodie.

I can grill and BBQ with the best of them

Can make some kickass ribs and pulled pork. My smoked turkey is to die for

 

[edthecynic]

There is no true poverty in the United States of America.
That is, material poverty.

How many times have I said that CON$ are always on both sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows at the time??? here is yet another example.

One day CON$ say that poverty is increasing to attack the war on poverty and the next day they say there is no poverty to attack Obama.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/$9-trillion-didnt-end-poverty-what-do

At the Republican National Convention this week, there was a lot of talk about money. Pay raises for firefighters. Money for Swift Boat ads. Money to rebuild Iraq, and so on. One thing the pundits and presidential candidates didn't say much about, however, is how much money has been spent fighting the "war on poverty"--$9 trillion and counting. Yes, $9 trillion.

Yet, as the Census Bureau just reported, poverty in America is up. So what do the candidates propose we do?

The DEFINITION of poverty is up, not poverty itself.

BULLSHIT!

Poverty continues to rise in U.S., now 15.1% - CBS News

WASHINGTON -- The number of people in the U.S. living in poverty in 2010 rose for the fourth year in a row, representing the largest number of Americans in poverty in the 52 years since such estimates have been published by the U.S. Census Bureau.

Median household income in the U.S. also declined.

The latest census data highlights the struggling U.S. economy, which has seen unemployment hover at around 9 percent for two years, and which will be a key campaign issue heading into the 2012 election season.

According to a report issued Tuesday, 46.2 million Americans were living in poverty in 2010, up from 43.6 million in 2009. Data in the Census Bureau covers the first full calendar year following the December 2007-June 2009 recession.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You will make someone a fine wife someday

As fine as you?


Seeing how I've made you my bitch, and all......

 

[g5000]

The political left has turned obesity among low-income individuals into an argument that low-income people cannot afford nutritious food, and so have to resort to burgers and fries, pizzas and the like

I would like to see evidence the left argues that poor people have to live on pizzas.

Ramen noodles are made of carbs.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Cooking is a lost art in this country. Not just among the poor, but in middle class and wealthy families. Everything is takeout, preprocessed or microwaveable.

How many women know how to bake bread? How many can make a Thanksgiving dinner for their family? I see wealthy people with $100,000 kitchens with restaurant quality appliances who can't fry an egg

Not me....I'm a foodie.

I can grill and BBQ with the best of them

Can make some kickass ribs and pulled pork. My smoked turkey is to die for

Lemme see....you, Grav....and I'll bring the knife and fork!

 

[Uncensored2008]

I would like to see evidence the left argues that poor people have to live on pizzas.

Ramen noodles are made of carbs.

The "poor" don't live on Ramen, college students live on Ramen. The poor eat like kings.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is no true poverty in the United States of America.
That is, material poverty. But there is spiritual poverty, poverty of character.
And there is a virulent political philosophy that encourages taking, rather than earning....
...pleading and demanding based on envy.

Food stamps for those who need food, and cannot provide for themselves...an old and honorable heritage in America: "On January 6, 1657 twenty-eight “Scottish men” signed the Laws Rules and Order of the Poor Boxes Society” in Boston, New England and formed the Scots’ Charitable Society."
http://www.linknet1.com/scots-charitable/menu1/index1.html



But what the Left has made common is a blemish on the nation and the people...

1."Mass Gov. Deval Patrick Vetoes Ban On Using Welfare EBT Cards To Purchase Porn, Tattoos, Manicures Because It Would “Humiliate Poor People”…No surprise he’s a close friend of Barack Obama (Axelrod ran his first campaign for Mass governor).

2. Patrick vetoed the reforms Sunday while signing the state’s $32.5 billion budget.

3. According to the Boston Herald, which first reported the veto, the governor berated the legislature’s stab at banning the purchase of specific items like manicures, tattoos, guns, porn, body piercings, jewelry, and bail by saying the move was “political grandstanding” at a time when such reforms are already on track elsewhere.


4. “I’m not going to do anything that makes vulnerable people beg for their benefits.This notion of humiliating poor people has got to be separated from how we make a program, and frankly separated and disposed of, from how we make a program work and work well,” Patrick said,...



5. Patrick allowed bans on the use of EBT cards in establishments known for the sale of seemingly controversial items — such as tattoo parlors, gun shops, casinos, cruise ships, and adult entertainment facilities —- to stand."
Exposing Liberal Lies: Deval Patrick OKs Porn, Tatoos, Jewelry with Food Stamps




We live in a time when the welfare industry needs to convinced well-meaning folks that there is a 'need.'
Rather it is a 'want.'


Consider the above when you vote.

Your title is bullshit. This was debunked several times. It's not the Food Stamp program that pays for this. It's State programs that they convey to EBT cards that work like a debit card. Do you think the Federal Government ought to tell states to stop putting their other benefits on EBT cards? I have no problem with that, but I'm not a "States Rights" idiot.

Based on language alone, I had you pegged as some other variety of idiot.

 

[g5000]

[
If the government was not providing assistance to the poor, there would be so many of them evident that even you would not be able to avoid seeing them.

!

Wrong. Stop giving things to these parasites and they'll find a way to get by on their own.

You are apparently completely unfamiliar with the history of poverty in America.

 

[g5000]

I would like to see evidence the left argues that poor people have to live on pizzas.

Ramen noodles are made of carbs.

The "poor" don't live on Ramen, college students live on Ramen. The poor eat like kings.

Evidence?

 

[Avatar4321]

The political left has turned obesity among low-income individuals into an argument that low-income people cannot afford nutritious food, and so have to resort to burgers and fries, pizzas and the like

I would like to see evidence the left argues that poor people have to live on pizzas.

Ramen noodles are made of carbs.

Id like to see evidence that pizza is bad for you if you choose the right toppings

 

[Uncensored2008]

Evidence?

You don't pay attention to anything but your prejudice, do you?

PC has posted a plethora of evidence, if you were interested you would have read it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The political left has turned obesity among low-income individuals into an argument that low-income people cannot afford nutritious food, and so have to resort to burgers and fries, pizzas and the like

I would like to see evidence the left argues that poor people have to live on pizzas.

Ramen noodles are made of carbs.

1. "The food desert myth
It's an article of faith that poor people in the inner cities get fat because they lack fresh produce -- and it's dead wrong

2. Almost nobody has a weight problem in West Harlem.


3. Or at least they’re not supposed to, because Fairway is smack in the heart of it, selling fresh produce at decent prices and even offering a free shuttle service for neighborhood residents. It’s been there for over 15 years — that is, a generation of people have grown up alongside it.

4. But obesity is much more prevalent in West Harlem than in Greenwich Village. This is a problem for the idea that “food deserts” make poor people disproportionately overweight.


5. The story goes that supermarkets with low-priced fresh vegetables and fruit moved out of poor neighborhoods amidst white flight. This, we are told, left residents with paltry and overpriced produce from bodegas. The result: salty, fattening fast food and junk food as the only viable alternatives.

a. The idea is now so entrenched that undergraduates often cite it earnestly. It’s on the tonguetips of people at any Blue America dinner party. It sticks easily in the memory and even feels good, because it entails that the obesity problem is due in part to racism. The institutional kind, mind you — maybe call it injustice.

b. Hence the food desert idea is now common wisdom. Yet it’s impossible to live in New York and not suspect that something doesn’t quite work about this thesis.


6. The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s food desert locator, for example — unveiled in 2011 — found almost no food deserts in New York City except in some of the wide-open spaces near Kennedy airport.

7. ...academic studies only had so much to tell us about whether there was a correlation between waistline size and how far away the supermarket is. But these days, the data is in....last year, a major study under the Nutrition Transition Program led by Dr. Barry Popkin showed that proximity of supermarkets has not affected people’s eating habits,...

a. ...the evidence is becoming crushing that the emperor has no clothes. Helen Lee’s study at the Public Policy Institute now confirms the impression that a walk around New York City suggests: Nationwide, the neighborhoods with lots of bodegas and fast food joints also tend to be the ones with the most supermarkets.


8. Roland Sturm at RAND studied 13,000 California children and then middle school students nationwide. He found, both times, that a supermarket close by doesn’t make a kid thin and living far from one doesn’t make him fat. Michelle Obama’s Healthy Food Initiative is well intended. But her claim that “if people want to buy a head of lettuce” they have to “take two or three buses, maybe pay for a taxicab, in order to do it,” just doesn’t jibe with the facts.

9. The key point is that supermarkets have never been inaccessible to poor people in the way that we have been told.... How you eat is due as much to cultural preferences as to how far away a supermarket is.

a. For black people... the problem is more a matter of history than where the Key Food is. ...Southern blacks brought their culinary tastes north. Zora Neale Hurston used to bless her friend Langston Hughes with fried chicken dinners.

b. It’s what soul food is, and it’s unclear to me that anyone would deny its centrality to black culture. If I am at an event where one of the main reception snacks is fried chicken drummies, it is almost certainly a black one. The person who makes collard greens with hamhocks is usually not white.


10. Another thing to target is what people consider a schlep to be. One typical “food desert” piece interviews a woman of 50 who considers 12 blocks a daunting distance to the supermarket. But I’m 46 and that’s how far the nearest supermarket is from me.Are we who work out and pride ourselves as walking New Yorkers doing poor people a favor by calling it racism when the supermarket is a 15 minute walk down the road?

11.... the studies are clearly showing that we have to put on a different pair of glasses for this issue. ...we must do this with the welfare of the people in mind, not as a way of making ourselves feel good about our own enlightenment.

Poor people do have access to healthy food: This is good news. If anyone finds it unwelcome, inconvenient or even just unengaging, we must question their motives."
The food desert myth - New York Daily News

The author of the piece is JOHN MCWHORTER. I've read several of his books. You might be more impressed if you researched McWhorter.




Now...what other areas in which you need instruction?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I would like to see evidence the left argues that poor people have to live on pizzas.

Ramen noodles are made of carbs.

The "poor" don't live on Ramen, college students live on Ramen. The poor eat like kings.

Evidence?

See post #103.