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FLASHBACK: Climate Czar John Kerry Said in 2009 That Arctic Summer Ice Would Disappear In 5 Years
JORDAN LANCASTER
April 08, 2021
Excerpt:
Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry said in 2009 that the Arctic would have its first ice-free summer by 2014.
Kerry, who at the time was serving as the Democratic senator from Massachusetts, criticized Republican Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe on the Senate floor for making comments that he said were “wrong on the facts” or wrong in terms of political judgment.
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Kerry doesn't know even now that the decline stopped after 2007 and there are a number of published reports and papers showing little to ZERO summer ice in the Arctic for long periods of time earlier in the interglacial, here is a link to a thread showing the research with links:
Little to no Summer ice in the Arctic
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Tony Heller has a long page of failed no summer sea ice predictions.
Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts
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One more:
Another New Study Affirms The Arctic Was Warmer With Less Sea Ice During The Mid-Holocene
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4 published science papers in the link.
So what do you believe the prediction was?really? Time in video where he says this?
lol
"ice free arctic summer"
no one disputes that.Been rising for 20,000 years. That's what happens during an interglacial period.
Does the phrase temperature threshold mean anything to you? Or do you believe ice magically appears and disappears with no relationship with time and temperature.quote:
What does an ice free summer mean?
Scientists have various ways of defining what “ice free” actually means, but the most common definition refers to a point at which Arctic sea ice cover at the end of summer falls to below one million square kilometres.
So what do you believe the prediction was?
No. It explains why the planet is naturally warming.no one disputes that.
Its the human contribution that was lacking before. Conflating natural events with this shit leaves you stinking
I'll defer to experts in the field of climate changeDoes the phrase temperature threshold mean anything to you? Or do you believe ice magically appears and disappears with no relationship with time and temperature.
really?No. It explains why the planet is naturally warming.
It seems you want to play word games but the real question is do you believe his prediction occurred within the time frame he said it would.what Kerry actually said: "an ice free summer"
What does an ice free summer mean?
Scientists have various ways of defining what “ice free” actually means, but the most common definition refers to a point at which Arctic sea ice cover at the end of summer falls to below one million square kilometres.
That's hilarious. You don't know the first thing about the planet's climate but you can't help commenting on it.I'll defer to experts in the field of climate change
No. It explains why the planet is naturally warming.
climate.nasa.gov
I'm still waiting for the ocean to rise. I'm ready to catch some specks and reds off my porch.
Walk me through what you believe and I'll show you your errors using actual empirical climate data.really?
lol
so, human behaviors play no role
lol
okay
that he said scientists predicted? Did nations start paying attention and trying to mitigate factors?It seems you want to play word games but the real question is do you believe his prediction occurred within the time frame he said it would.
If they believe that water vapor is a net negative feedback based upon computer models, yes. Empirical climate evidence proves water vapor is a net negative feedback which is why the planet cooled with atmospheric CO2 greater than 600 ppm.So, let's get this straight: You believe Keyboard Scientists like you, know better than the people who run NASA?
Climate Change - NASA Science
NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.
You didn't answer my question. Do you believe the predictions he stated came true?that he said scientists predicted? Did nations start paying attention and trying to mitigate factors?
the real question is -- is Kerry's descrition of how ice sheets melt wrong?
I'm still waiting for the ocean to rise. I'm ready to catch some specks and reds off my porch.
That's no different than the last 6,000 years.
climate.nasa.gov
scied.ucar.edu
I have a slightly different take... humans are affecting climate but not because of the GHG effect of CO2 - which is over exaggerated due to flawed models which more than triple the GHG effect of CO2 through nebulous claims of net positive feedback - but because of deforestation and urbanization which affect albedo. But there's no money to be made off of that because no one has the stomach to swallow that medicine or the courage to speak out about it. So instead they preach to western industrialized nations about the evils of CO2 when their emissions have been declining for almost two decades and ignore where the real growth of carbon emissions are occurring; developing and emerging countries with low per capita carbon emissions. There's way too much bias and emotion in the climate science community which is clouding their ability to be objective.Global warming is the long-term heating of Earth's surface observed since the pre-industrial period (between 1850 and 1900) due to human activities, primarily fossil fuel burning, which increases heat-trapping greenhouse gas levels in Earth's atmosphere.
What Is Climate Change?
Climate change is a long-term change in the average weather patterns that have come to define Earth’s local, regional and global climates. These changes have a broad range of observed effects that are synonymous with the term. Changes observed in Earth’s climate since the mid-20th century are...
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Why Earth Is Warming | Center for Science Education
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