Five Women Sue Texas Over States Abortion Ban

[skews13]

The women who are bringing the suit contradict stereotypes about who receives abortions and why. Married, and some with children already, the women rejoiced at their pregnancies, only to discover that their fetuses had no chance of survival — two had no skulls, and two others were threatening the lives of their twins.

Though they faced the risk of hemorrhage or life-threatening infection from carrying those fetuses, the women were told they could not have abortions, the suit says. Some doctors refused even to suggest the option, or to forward medical records to another provider.

The women found themselves furtively crossing state borders to seek medical treatment outside Texas, worried that family and neighbors might report them to state authorities. In some cases, the women became so ill that they were hospitalized. One plaintiff, Amanda Zurawski, was told she was not yet sick enough to receive an abortion, then twice became septic, and was left with so much scar tissue that one of her fallopian tubes is permanently closed.

“You don’t think you’re somebody who’s going to need an abortion, let alone an abortion to save my life,” Ms. Zurawski, 35, said. “If anybody reads my story, I don’t care where they are on the political spectrum, very few people would agree there is anything pro-life about this.”

Five Women Sue Texas Over the State’s Abortion Ban (Published 2023)

The women, backed by an abortion-rights group, say they were denied abortions under state law despite risks to themselves and their fetuses that made the procedure a medical necessity.

www.nytimes.com

Last years elections cost Republicans big losses. Next year isn't going to be any better for them.

 

[1srelluc]

I'd be curious what would happen if TX and OK let the people decide......I have a real problem with letting the state legislators decide such a issue.

Do it in a off-year so the crazies (on both sides) can't fuck-up a general election.....I suspect The People would be fine with the practice, with some guardrails of course.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

The women who are bringing the suit contradict stereotypes about who receives abortions and why.

Not really. Just trash.

And any such lawsuit has no basis in the Texas Constitution and no possible basis in the United States Constitution, so the trash can take itself out.

There is no way forward for this nonsense to proceed.

The women found themselves furtively crossing state borders to seek medical treatment outside Texas, worried that family and neighbors might report them to state authorities.

Ideally, yes, they would be. It shouldn’t be legal in other states and they shouldn’t be allowed to travel and then return without legal consequence - they should at best be fugitives from just law.

 

[B. Kidd]

The 5 women are backed by an abortion rights group.
Why didn't we see this coming??

There are plenty of states where they can get an abortion and said abortion rights group could pay for it.

Same principle at play as suing a baker to force him to make homo cakes against his beliefs.

 

[0311]

The women who are bringing the suit contradict stereotypes about who receives abortions and why. Married, and some with children already, the women rejoiced at their pregnancies, only to discover that their fetuses had no chance of survival — two had no skulls, and two others were threatening the lives of their twins.

Though they faced the risk of hemorrhage or life-threatening infection from carrying those fetuses, the women were told they could not have abortions, the suit says. Some doctors refused even to suggest the option, or to forward medical records to another provider.

The women found themselves furtively crossing state borders to seek medical treatment outside Texas, worried that family and neighbors might report them to state authorities. In some cases, the women became so ill that they were hospitalized. One plaintiff, Amanda Zurawski, was told she was not yet sick enough to receive an abortion, then twice became septic, and was left with so much scar tissue that one of her fallopian tubes is permanently closed.

“You don’t think you’re somebody who’s going to need an abortion, let alone an abortion to save my life,” Ms. Zurawski, 35, said. “If anybody reads my story, I don’t care where they are on the political spectrum, very few people would agree there is anything pro-life about this.”

Five Women Sue Texas Over the State’s Abortion Ban (Published 2023)

The women, backed by an abortion-rights group, say they were denied abortions under state law despite risks to themselves and their fetuses that made the procedure a medical necessity.

www.nytimes.com

Last years elections cost Republicans big losses. Next year isn't going to be any better for them.

In the Jewish Faith, Abortion is allowed. It will be interesting to see how the religious aspect plays out. One would there would a religious exemption for those Women who faith allows abortion.

 

[skews13]

Not really. Just trash.

And any such lawsuit has no basis in the Texas Constitution and no possible basis in the United States Constitution, so the trash can take itself out.

There is no way forward for this nonsense to proceed.


Ideally, yes, they would be. It shouldn’t be legal in other states and they shouldn’t be allowed to travel and then return without legal consequence - they should at best be fugitives from just law.

They're going to win. Big time.

They have already won politically. The overwhelming majority of America is on their side.

The only win left is legally, and that's coming.

 

[Rogue AI]

They're going to win. Big time.

They have already won politically. The overwhelming majority of America is on their side.

The only win left is legally, and that's coming.

Your predictions ALWAYS turn out to be the exact opposite of what you say. Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Stann]

The women who are bringing the suit contradict stereotypes about who receives abortions and why. Married, and some with children already, the women rejoiced at their pregnancies, only to discover that their fetuses had no chance of survival — two had no skulls, and two others were threatening the lives of their twins.

Though they faced the risk of hemorrhage or life-threatening infection from carrying those fetuses, the women were told they could not have abortions, the suit says. Some doctors refused even to suggest the option, or to forward medical records to another provider.

The women found themselves furtively crossing state borders to seek medical treatment outside Texas, worried that family and neighbors might report them to state authorities. In some cases, the women became so ill that they were hospitalized. One plaintiff, Amanda Zurawski, was told she was not yet sick enough to receive an abortion, then twice became septic, and was left with so much scar tissue that one of her fallopian tubes is permanently closed.

“You don’t think you’re somebody who’s going to need an abortion, let alone an abortion to save my life,” Ms. Zurawski, 35, said. “If anybody reads my story, I don’t care where they are on the political spectrum, very few people would agree there is anything pro-life about this.”

Five Women Sue Texas Over the State’s Abortion Ban (Published 2023)

The women, backed by an abortion-rights group, say they were denied abortions under state law despite risks to themselves and their fetuses that made the procedure a medical necessity.

www.nytimes.com

Last years elections cost Republicans big losses. Next year isn't going to be any better for them.

Finally, I knew this was going to happen. I don't understand why it didn't happen sooner. It's time to do away with all these egregious abortion laws. That's the whole reason the compromise by the courts instating Roe versus Wade occurred in the first place.

 

[Stann]

The 5 women are backed by an abortion rights group.
Why didn't we see this coming??

There are plenty of states where they can get an abortion and said abortion rights group could pay for it.

Same principle at play as suing a baker to force him to make homo cakes against his beliefs.

No one should be forced to leave their state to get proper medical care. I saw this coming from the very start. These abortion laws are unrealistic and unworkable. And I'm not just talking about these really bad laws, but ALL abortion laws.

 

[Stann]

The 5 women are backed by an abortion rights group.
Why didn't we see this coming??

There are plenty of states where they can get an abortion and said abortion rights group could pay for it.

Same principle at play as suing a baker to force him to make homo cakes against his beliefs.

I don't see your comparison at all. Apples and oranges.Ametica is a free nation or at least it's suppose to be. The state committing cres is a lot different than a person committing crimes by not supporting the free Enterprise system. Both are terrible offenses to an individual's right to personal freedom and privacy.

 

[Stann]

Not really. Just trash.

And any such lawsuit has no basis in the Texas Constitution and no possible basis in the United States Constitution, so the trash can take itself out.

There is no way forward for this nonsense to proceed.


Ideally, yes, they would be. It shouldn’t be legal in other states and they shouldn’t be allowed to travel and then return without legal consequence - they should at best be fugitives from just law.

In Nazi Germany they had such laws. Everyone lived in fear of one another. Laws like this have no place in America.

 

[beautress]

The women who are bringing the suit contradict stereotypes about who receives abortions and why. Married, and some with children already, the women rejoiced at their pregnancies, only to discover that their fetuses had no chance of survival — two had no skulls, and two others were threatening the lives of their twins.

Though they faced the risk of hemorrhage or life-threatening infection from carrying those fetuses, the women were told they could not have abortions, the suit says. Some doctors refused even to suggest the option, or to forward medical records to another provider.

The women found themselves furtively crossing state borders to seek medical treatment outside Texas, worried that family and neighbors might report them to state authorities. In some cases, the women became so ill that they were hospitalized. One plaintiff, Amanda Zurawski, was told she was not yet sick enough to receive an abortion, then twice became septic, and was left with so much scar tissue that one of her fallopian tubes is permanently closed.

“You don’t think you’re somebody who’s going to need an abortion, let alone an abortion to save my life,” Ms. Zurawski, 35, said. “If anybody reads my story, I don’t care where they are on the political spectrum, very few people would agree there is anything pro-life about this.”

Five Women Sue Texas Over the State’s Abortion Ban (Published 2023)

The women, backed by an abortion-rights group, say they were denied abortions under state law despite risks to themselves and their fetuses that made the procedure a medical necessity.

www.nytimes.com

Last years elections cost Republicans big losses. Next year isn't going to be any better for them.

No skulls? And they want to sue somebody because their drug habit caused a deformity in their unborn child? That's having their cake and eating it too.

 

[Mac-7]

I'd be curious what would happen if TX and OK let the people decide......I have a real problem with letting the state legislators decide such a issue.

Do it in a off-year so the crazies (on both sides) can't fuck-up a general election.....I suspect The People would be fine with the practice, with some guardrails of course.

The abortionists want no guardrails, and will scream just as loud over not being allowed to kill babies in the 4th trimester as any other time

 

[Stann]

I'd be curious what would happen if TX and OK let the people decide......I have a real problem with letting the state legislators decide such a issue.

Do it in a off-year so the crazies (on both sides) can't fuck-up a general election.....I suspect The People would be fine with the practice, with some guardrails of course.

That's the whole problem. Overreach of the government and courts in personal health matters. They do not have that right. Only the woman involved and her physician should make that decision together. Even the Roe versus Wade compromise was illegal before it was falsely declared illegal by the Supreme Court. Two wrongs never make a right.

 

[Stann]

The abortionists want no guardrails, and will scream just as loud over not being allowed to kill babies in the 4th trimester as any other time

Do you realize most genetic mutations ( which are not condusive to life ) do not show up until the 30 th.week checkup. No woman waits that long to have an abortion. These are necessary.

 

[Stann]

Not really. Just trash.

And any such lawsuit has no basis in the Texas Constitution and no possible basis in the United States Constitution, so the trash can take itself out.

There is no way forward for this nonsense to proceed.


Ideally, yes, they would be. It shouldn’t be legal in other states and they shouldn’t be allowed to travel and then return without legal consequence - they should at best be fugitives from just law.

Yes, the Texas law is nonsense.And such extortion laws are illegal in America.

 

[Mac-7]

Do you realize most genetic mutations ( which are not condusive to life ) do not show up until the 30 th.week checkup. No woman waits that long to have an abortion. These are necessary.

There are no perfect answers to this question

The vast majority of aborted children are healthy and viable

 

[Stann]

There are no perfect answers to this question

The vast majority of aborted children are healthy and viable

Wrong ! No " child " has ever been aborted. Every child requires a birthdate, otherwise they never exist.

 

[Mac-7]

Wrong ! No " child " has ever been aborted. Every child requires a birthdate, otherwise they never exist.

You are just quibbling over terminology

As the man said, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet

 

[Stann]

You are just quibbling over terminology

As the man said, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet

Whenever I meet a new friend who has children, one of my first questions is how old are they. No one has ever given me the dates their human embryo was conceived ( because that's impossible at the present time ) but rather the date they were born into this world. You are the one who is quibbling with very specific definitions. You should never allow your emotions to interfere with your critical thinking.