First SNAP Ban on Candy and Soda Set To Become Law

[EvilEyeFleegle]

His response to my very reasonable opinion that taxpayers should not have to buy soda and candy for welfare recipients in addition to all the real food we buy for them - was to say “fuck you.”

LOl! Are you that dumb? The 'fuck you' was because you chose to allude to my 'welfare' childhood and presume to ask me had I thanked the taxpayer..who gave my very little indeed..as to food.
As to your opinion, pretty sure I've answered that..but really, it's not 'Your' money. The govt. took it via taxation..it was their money..when they give it to someone it becomes their money.


I'd have thought that an adult in the US would have figured out how it works..by now~

 

[ThisIsMe]

You are acting as if poor people have NO cash, and depend on other people to pay for every purchase. They have money for alcohol and money for cigarettes, so they can give up a drink to get their kid a treat.

If they are on food stamps but buying alcohol and cigarettes, they need to adjust their food stamp allowance. Or put them on a tobacco and alcohol cessation program

Sorry, I'm not going to tell a child that just because you are of food stamps, you can't be awarded a treat every now and then.

 

[Lisa558]

Dude. Don't share your life story and admit the reasons for your hate and anger if you don't want it commented on.

I truly hope you can work through and resolve your issues. You have a blessed day.

He’s overcompensating for the fact that his family lived off taxpayer money, so instead of showing appreciation for the system, he curses out anyone who doesn’t think welfare recipients are entitled to get whatever they want courtesy of other people’s money.

 

[Lisa558]

If they are on food stamps but buying alcohol and cigarettes, they need to adjust their food stamp allowance. Or put them on a tobacco and alcohol cessation program

Sorry, I'm not going to tell a child that just because you are of food stamps, you can't be awarded a treat every now and then.

They can still get a treat. Mom will have to skip a drink or a couple of cigs. It’s up to Mom to make the choice between an extra drink, or a treat for her kid.

 

[Rawley]

72% of smokers are from the low-income.

Why are 72% of smokers from lower-income communities?

Tobacco companies have targeted low-income populations in many ways over many years, creating smoking rate disparities that did not previously exist.

truthinitiative.org

And problem drinking is more common among the poor, as well.

Where you live may impact how much you drink

Neighborhoods with greater poverty and disorganization may play a greater role in problem drinking than the availability of bars and stores that sell hard liquor, a University of Washington-led study...

www.washington.edu

And obesity and diabetes

 

[ThisIsMe]

They can still get a treat. Mom will have to skip a drink or a couple of cigs. It’s up to Mom to make the choice between an extra drink, or a treat for her kid.

What if mom doesn't want to do that?

 

[Lisa558]

LOl! Are you that dumb? The 'fuck you' was because you chose to allude to my 'welfare' childhood and presume to ask me had I thanked the taxpayer..who gave my very little indeed..as to food.
As to your opinion, pretty sure I've answered that..but really, it's not 'Your' money. The govt. took it via taxation..it was their money..when they give it to someone it becomes their money.


I'd have thought that an adult in the US would have figured out how it works..by now~

My question was whether you were grateful for all the help taxpayers gave your family. Instead, you come across as feeling ENTITLED to soda and candy that OTHER people pay for,

 

[MisterBeale]

Paternalistic actions implemented against a class of people solely because of their financial status.

That is what government IS. By its nature, it is paternalistic.

If you agree to take the money of the taxpayers for help, then you necessarily agree to the conditions tied to that choice.

Choice is freedom...and it is not up to the Govt. to police people's food purchases.

. . . . . but the nature of government is NOT freedom, nor liberty for that matter.

Folks that depend on the government should expect to be treated little better than prisoners or slaves TBH.

If a person agrees to have anything to do with government, then, necessarily you need to expect to have that affect your liberty. . . in all areas of life.

It it weren't for the bill of rights, this would be THE RULE, not just what is to be expected.

 

[Lisa558]

What if mom doesn't want to do that?

Then children learn that they go without treats when Mom is irresponsible and on welfare and prioritizes her liquor over them - and will be motivated to grow up to be a better parent.

 

[Rawley]

My question was whether you were grateful for all the help taxpayers gave your family. Instead, you come across as feeling ENTITLED to soda and candy that OTHER people pay for,

When he started this thread he admitted the shame he felt for the stigma attached to using the free lunch coupons. I don't necessarily think we need to go back to the days of feeling shame. But the arrogant claims of entitlement to do whatever they want to do with the welfare given by the State are rather disturbing.

 

[Delldude]

Paternalistic actions implemented against a class of people solely because of their financial status.

It's their poor choices on food and it's resulting in rises in healthcare costs that the taxpayers are covering.

Choice is freedom...and it is not up to the Govt. to police people's food purchases.

When I'm picking up the tab it is.

 

[Rawley]

It's their poor choices on food and it's resulting in rises in healthcare costs that the taxpayers are covering.

When I'm picking up the tab it is.

Astounding that they can't grasp either of these realities

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

So do about 40% of all SNAP recipients~

Sure they do.

 

[martybegan]

LOl! Are you that dumb? The 'fuck you' was because you chose to allude to my 'welfare' childhood and presume to ask me had I thanked the taxpayer..who gave my very little indeed..as to food.
As to your opinion, pretty sure I've answered that..but really, it's not 'Your' money. The govt. took it via taxation..it was their money..when they give it to someone it becomes their money.


I'd have thought that an adult in the US would have figured out how it works..by now~

It wasn't "your" money, you didn't earn it, you got it because society didn't want to see you fucking starve.

Although in your case, they got a pretty shitty return on thier investment.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Then children learn that they go without treats when Mom is irresponsible and on welfare and prioritizes her liquor over them - and will be motivated to grow up to be a better parent.

How about we try and get the parents to change THEIR ways, rather than punishment the child?

I get it, it's not ideal, but let's not punish the kid because their parents are making bad decisions.

I think they need to only allow a certain amount of "snack" foods on the snap card. Again, a treat here and there is fine, that's normal living. If they are using them to replace meals, that's bad.

 

[MisterBeale]

I see zero reasons to limit what the poor buy with their SNAP benefits--do you?

I do.

IMO, the SNAP benefits should be tightly regulated, and probably increased so the poor can afford organic and more fresh healthy food. . . .

Obesity and poverty: Link, statistics and more

Studies suggest obesity is linked to poverty. A potential factor is the greater affordability of less nutritional and higher calorie foods. Learn more.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Why Poverty Leads to Obesity and Life-Long Problems

The United States finds itself in the midst of an “obesity epidemic,” as many news outlets and public agencies have proclaimed. For good reasons, researchers and public health experts are especially concerned about obesity among children and adolescents. Over the last three decades obesity has...

scholars.org

In the short run, it might cost the government more, but in the long run we would save multiple times in national health care costs.

 

[martybegan]

How about we try and get the parents to change THEIR ways, rather than punishment the child?

I get it, it's not ideal, but let's not punish the kid because their parents are making bad decisions.

I think they need to only allow a certain amount of "snack" foods on the snap card. Again, a treat here and there is fine, that's normal living. If they are using them to replace meals, that's bad.

They can use whatever cash they have on hand for that.

Assistance should be just enough to make you want to get the hell off of said assistance.

 

[dblack]

And they don’t need us to pay for their sodas in order to “get by” with all their free food.

It's just virtue signaling. Poor people won't give a shit. It won't do anything but make you feel superior.

Here's what bothers me about this stuff: Democrats create more and more dependency on government. Republicans, rather than undoing the laws creating the dependency, use it to bully people they don't like.

This is going to happen in health care. As Democrats socialize it more and more, the not-on-my-dime Republicans will start howling about all the people "abusing" the system. They'll want to get up in everyone's business dictating their personal health habits because "my tax dollars are paying for it!" They'll want to ban dangerous sports, or punish smokers, etc, etc ... "Why should I pay for their poor health habits!!!"

It'll get much uglier than the debate we're having over candy and soda.

 

[ThisIsMe]

They can use whatever cash they have on hand for that.

Assistance should be just enough to make you want to get the hell off of said assistance.

.there are people in this country who have nothing, no hope of ever improving their situation, for them, I'm not fretting over the government buying the child a snickers bar every now and then.

 

[Delldude]

How about we try and get the parents to change THEIR ways, rather than punishment the child?

Like get off the dole and get a job?

How patriotic to get off assistance and pay taxes instead of living off someone else's.....some can't get off, but many can and should.