Firefighters Professional Trade Journal Concludes 9/11 Was "Explosive Demolition"

This particular article deals with WTC 7 but if Seven was wired for demolition then they all were.


FSJA Fire and Safety Journal of the Americas: "Built to last or built to fail: Could office fuel loads cause the complete collapse of WTC 7?"


"Sudden transition to freefall rules out a progressive collapse by fire or any other known natural mechanism other than explosive demolition."



Firefighters Call 9/11 an Inside Job - "Calling Out Bravo-7" Documentary.


Several problems.

First, the building didn't just suddenly transition to free fall. The penthouse collapsed into the building about 19 seconds, before the rest of the building came down, demonstrating that the building was collapsing internally long before its shell collapsed.

Second, when the building did fall, it fell silently. Any explosive sufficiently powerful to cut structural steel girders is sufficiently powerful to make an enormous sound. There is no such thing as silent explosive demolition. This is a deal breaker for the explosive demolition crowd. There is no way around it.

But fuck that dead horse. Lets keep beating it.

Third. the building was subject to massive fires. There's no known system of explosive demolition that would survive a building fire. Transmitters or timers would have melted. Blasting wire would have melted or detonated. Charges would have melted or detonated. For the explosive demolition theory to work, thousands of charges and their wiring would have had to have been on fire from about 10AM to about 5:20. Almost 7 and half hours.And then worked perfectly.

Nope.

Fourth, the report just glosses over the massive structural damage to the building. The FDNY observed and the NIST confirmed massive damage to the building. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 did extensive damage to the south face of WTC 7. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 also caused damage to the southwest corner between floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage included a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between floors 24 and 41.

The FDNY saw this damage, saw the building bulging, leaning and burning as it slowly structurally failed, and pulled its men out hours before the collapse occured. This happened around 2 pm when they saw the face of the building begin to bulge. The put a transit on the building to measure the angle of deformation and measure the slow structural failure. They accurately estimated the collapse to within about an hour based on the transit they put on the building to measure its gradual structural failure due to fire and catastrophic structural damage from debris from WTC 1 and 2.

No bombs required.

Fifth, the entire WTC plaza had been searched by bomb sniffing dogs a week before the 9/11 attacks due to a bomb threat. The Port Authority had its own bomb sniffing dog team and were on site for days looking for any explosives. They found none. Which means that the entire 47 story building would have had to have been wired in the week after. Due to the 1993 bomb attack on the WTC, security on the plaza was tighter than almost anywhere else in the city. And they took bomb threats deadly serious.

Even when the building has been stripped down to its structural steel, it takes literal months to wire these biuldings for demolition. The process is completely and utterlly obvious. There is simply no way that 1) the building could have been wired in only 1 week and 2) that it could been wired for explosive demolition without it being detected. The building was occupied and used daily. It was maintained. It was inspected. The New York office of emergency management was there. The US Secret Service had offices there. It had excellent security.

The explosive demolition story again fails the circumstances on site.

Sixth, there have been analyses of the dust from the WTC site, which would include WTC 1, 2 and 7. There was no residue of explosive demolition ever found in any sample. Again killing the explosive demolition theory.

Seventh, explosive charges cut structural steel. Kicker charges break it up with even more cuts. In most cases there is extensive pre-cutting of the main structrual supports to weaken them. Literal blow torches to cut away sections of structural steel. There were no girders cut by explosive demolition. There were bent girders. There were ripped girders. There were no cut girders. There is zero evidence of pre-cutting.

Excluding explosive demolition as the cause yet again.

Eighth, WTC 7 was an odd building. It had an entire Con Edison substation built into its first 5 to 7 floors, with a unique cantilever truss redirecting gravity loads AROUND the substation, essentially creating massive structural voids in about 1/3 or the base of the building.

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The report compares the fire in this building, without massive structural damage and with functioning firefighting efforts, and WITHOUT a substation built into its base, WITHOUT the odd canterlever construction of the WTC. The differences in these buildings, the conditions, and the pre-existing structural damage makes direct comparisons ludicrous.

Explosive demolition, again and again, is simply an awful explanation for the collapse of WTC 7.
 
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Wrong

Pull is not and has never been a term used to describe the demiolition of a building

it is not. Its a term used to describe suspending fire fighting efforts. The FDNY used the term repeatedly on 9/11 around the cessation of their fire fighting efforts around WTC 7.

Worse, the entire premise of the application of 'pull' to mean that the building was explosively demolished doesn't make the slightest sense. The conservation being cited was between Larry Silverstein, the holder of the lease for WTC 7.....and the FDNY. The people he told to 'pull it' was the FDNY.

So following the conspiratorial logic, the people that would have demolished WTC 7......was the Fire Department of New York. A service they have never offered in their centuries long existence. Nor have the equipment nor expertise to perform. AND....that would mean the FDNY was complicit in the murder and cover up of 343 of its own members.

Something I'd love to watch one of these Truthers say to an FDNY firefighter's face.
 
these guys???>>>



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So you're switching from WTC 7 to WTC 1?

Yeah, I wouldn't want to try and defend the absurd 'explosive demoltion' claims for WTC 7 either.
 
they all went down the same Sky......~S~

Nope. WTC 1 and 2 came down top to bottom - starting at the point of the impacts and proceeding downward, one floor at a time, all the way to the ground. The exact opposite of controlled demolition, which is bottom to top.

And WTC 7 fell silently. There's no such thing as silent explosive demolition. Any explosive powerful enough to cut structural steel girders is powerful enough to make an enormous sound.

And just for clarification, as I don't want to misrepresent your position.....but are you arguing that it was the FDNY that explosively demolished WTC 7? That's a question.
 
Read the official report i posted Sky

we are told the buildings 'pancaked' due to jet fuel weakening the structures , save for WT7, which also pancaked sans the jet fuel

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Read the official report i posted Sky

we are told the buildings 'pancaked' due to jet fuel weakening the structures , save for WT7, which also pancaked sans the jet fuel

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No one ever discovered a single one of the hundreds (thousands?) of explosive rigs that would have been needed?
 
I am surprised at the many conspiracy nuts out there. Sad commentary on America.
You too are a conspiracy nut. You believe the official conspiracy theory, that 19 arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 airliners. It's 24 years later, cannot be proved, yet you still buy into it. Have a look in the mirror John, if you're looking for conspiracy nuts.
 
You too are a conspiracy nut. You believe the official conspiracy theory, that 19 arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 airliners. It's 24 years later, cannot be proved, yet you still buy into it. Have a look in the mirror John, if you're looking for conspiracy nuts.
It has long since been proven

The official story is a conspiracy not a conspiracy theory.
 
The official story is a conspiracy not a conspiracy theory.
you mean the 9/11 commish , which could easily take it's place beside the warren commish ,given the release of 'classified info' , making our government look might bad as it just did w/JFK Mr. Soup.

citizens have a right to question authority , which they do not like and hide behind 'national security' as an excuse , and further hand out the tin hats to invalidate any query

28 pages anyone?

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I’m afraid you are making far too much sense for the coincidence theorists on here to comprehend,just look at their replys.logic and common sense that these were not regular explosives that brought down the towers is too complicated for them to understand I’m afraid.the overwhelming evidence thst explosives brought the towers down such as witnesses saying they heard explosives going off,many being very credible being firefighters experiened in the sound of explosives,that the survivors in the lower lobby heard explosives going off in the basement 10 seconds or so before the plane struck above,and that the best architects and engineers in the world have said explosives brought the towers down,all thst logic and common sense is too much for them to comprehend so they don’t try to comprehend it knowing it will fry their brains and they will have to go to the hospital from a nervous breakdown. :rofl:

Good job owning and taking toofreak to school checkmating him. :thup:
I'm not taking toobfreak anywhere, we agree.
 
you mean the 9/11 commish , which could easily take it's place beside the warren commish ,given the release of 'classified info' , making our government look might bad as it just did w/JFK Mr. Soup.

citizens have a right to question authority , which they do not like and hide behind 'national security' as an excuse , and further hand out the tin hats to invalidate any query

28 pages anyone?

~S~
Wrong

First of the Warren Commision report has never been challenged or refuted. It stands as the most comprehensive and thorough criminal investigation in US history

Of course you have been told otherwidse and never bothered to read it and fact check so you remain ignorant about the report

Same with the 911 report which you cannot post facts to refute
 
the Warren Commision report has never been challenged or refuted.
where have you been the last 6 decades..... :rolleyes:
Same with the 911 report which you cannot post facts to refute
because it purposely lacks facts Mr Soup

or did you not realize the gub'mit with held them, same as with JFK, until recently ?

and you trust them???

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where have you been the last 6 decades..... :rolleyes:

because it purposely lacks facts Mr Soup

or did you not realize the gub'mit with held them, same as with JFK, until recently ?

and you trust them???

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No it does not lack any facts

The government withheld nothing significant about JFK

In the last six decades endless clowns have lied about the WC convinving gullible people like you about a bunch of crap concerning the WC which you never read.

The conspiracy trheories have all been disproven

Conspiracy theory believers are not simply people QUESTIONING the governement which all americans do. They are pushing fiction and refusing to admit thruth.

Government lies SOMETIMES is also occasionally gets things right

You are wrong about both JFK and 911
 
Soupnazi630 before the internet came along how many conspiracy theories did you hear about? The only ones I heard about were started by people I knew and we'd quickly shoot them down. We didn't call them conspiracy theories back then, we called it "talking stupid."
 
Soupnazi630 before the internet came along how many conspiracy theories did you hear about? The only ones I heard about were started by people I knew and we'd quickly shoot them down. We didn't call them conspiracy theories back then, we called it "talking stupid."
BS

Conspiracy theory wss a thriving industry long before the internet. The silly JFK theories for example were massive before the internet
 
BS

Conspiracy theory wss a thriving industry long before the internet. The silly JFK theories for example were massive before the internet
I stand corrected. I never considered the difference between Americans and Canadians. Offhand I can't think of anything in Canada that happened which would have such a lasting effect.
 

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