Federal appeals court rules Trump administration can't end birthright citizenship

[Unkotare]

Nor mine

You too.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Refugees are NOT “illegal immigrants” moron.

The people Trump is deporting are not “illegal immigrants”. Trump is revoking legal visas and then deporting legal immigrants.

France Gave Asylum to the Ayatollah Khomeini

Asylum is so easy to turn into invasion or into hideouts for foreign criminals that, like Prohibition, it has to be repealed because of its inevitable anarchy.

 

[Unkotare]

They are if their claims for refugee status are fraudulent, which over 90% are.

You're thinking of asylum seekers.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The assumption was the mother has to be citizen in the first place. The SC will have to rule on it

The "Rule of Law" Is the Rule of Lawyers

Let's reject or reconsider all ruling-class memes. They only sound good if we don't think of what they amount to in real life.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

They already did. Long ago.

Nine Nasty Nerds

Since SCROTUS continually defies logic and the will of the citizens, its privileges must be revoked. It was only supposed to rule on cases, never on laws or executive orders.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Only if you wish to destroy your own country.

Proud Protégé of Noam Chomsky

The United Nations has us beat 193 nations to 1. UNcle Kotex keeps score that way. Besides, he knows a lot more languages than our single lonesome national language.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The subject is birthright citizenship, not the national debt. YOU are deflecting.

Feralphile multicultie Liberalism cost us most of that debt.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Your inability to add beyond 1+1 is not surprising.

ComMITted

Uncle Kotex was a Linguistics major, not a math major.

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean."

 

[Unkotare]

Feralphile multicultie Liberalism cost us most of that debt.

Then you go find a liberal and give him a good talking to!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So the illegals have set up homes. Section 1324 title 8 makes it a federal felony to sell a home to an illegal or rent an apt to them. All illegals must leave.

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

(A)Any person who—

(iv)encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(I)engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II)aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).

(B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—

(iv)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.

Ewe Essay

Shows how ineffective it is to leave law enforcement up to the Constitution's anointed Good Shepherds.

 

[Dante]

Meh, this was always going to be a SCOTUS decision.

Trump pivoted on Ukraine — birthright citizenship could be next ​

Get ready to wipe the shit off of your head and tongue

 

[WEATHER53]

He’s not actually ending it as it was never there in modern times

 

[Dante]

The sins of the father...?

Israel does that when it foes after families

 

[MayorQuimby]

Those born in this country did not enter the country illegally.

But the manner by which their illegal parents obtained citizenship for them is both questionable as well as literally illegal.

 

[WEATHER53]

Birthright was a slave becoming citizen issue .
The founders had no imagination of people from foreign lands trying to force their way into this country

 

[MayorQuimby]

I don't think it matters to argue what "subject to the jurisdiction of" really means. The way I see it, it's really simple. The manner by which the illegal parents managed to finagle citizenship for their child, is not only highly questionable, it's literally illegal. And it is because of this, we should take away birthright citizenship specifically from these children of illegals.

Think of the following: Let's say one day, the Germans marched over here, and invaded the country. They also raped American women. These women then gave birth to babies on American soil. According to the letter of the law, these children are American citizens. However, the whole matter would just be so f*cked up, that it would bother anyone with a proper sense of right and wrong.

 

[Care4all]

Birthright was a slave becoming citizen issue .
The founders had no imagination of people from foreign lands trying to force their way into this country

If it were JUST for black slaves, THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SO specifically, in the amendment....
they did not.

 

[MayorQuimby]

If it were JUST for black slaves, THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SO specifically, in the amendment....
they did not.

Not sure what you are trying to say. Illegals aren't slaves, so the law isn't written with them in mind.

 

[my2¢]

But the manner by which their illegal parents obtained citizenship for them is both questionable as well as literally illegal.

As you admit here, the child obtains citizenship through no illegal actions of its own. Child is legal, parents are not.

Folks here that want to twist the meaning behind "jurisdiction" are exercising the same sort of nonsense that those who twist the meaning of "militia" in regard to the 2nd amendment.

 

[MayorQuimby]

As you admit here, the child obtains citizenship through no illegal actions of its own. Child is legal, parents are not.

You are making this about a technicality.

Anyway, yes, you are right, given the current way the laws are in this country, these children are citizens. However, it's like I said, laws can be changed. And when the law has stopped serving the people, then it is our duty to change it. It's not a hard concept.