Federal appeals court rules Trump administration can't end birthright citizenship

[Unkotare]

their parents are foreigners so their children are also foreigners .,,,,,,

Not according to my constitution.

 

[westwall]

The sins of the father...?

Illegality makes their birth place of no concern to us. They are citizens of their parents home country.

 

[Unkotare]

Illegality makes their birth place of no concern to us. They are citizens of their parents home country.

Not if they were born here. Not according to my constitution.

 

[westwall]

Not if they were born here. Not according to my constitution.

My Constitution says no such thing.

 

[Unkotare]

My Constitution says no such thing.

14th Amendment.

 

[westwall]

14th Amendment.

Doesn't say that. It codified former SLAVES as being citizens.

Context matters.

 

[Unkotare]

Doesn't say that. It codified former SLAVES as being citizens.

Context matters.

When did you join the Supreme Court?

 

[WEATHER53]

Good news is that USSC, which will ultimately correct this illegals enhancing concept, said the held over Venezuelans can’t be sheltered by an activist judge anymore

 

[westwall]

When did you join the Supreme Court?

I can read the COTUS, just fine. Plus I have this ability to read what the intent of the authors of the 14th intended.

That's called logic, and reasoning.

You should try it.

Fat, dumb, and lazy are no way to go through life.

Just sayin....

 

[WEATHER53]

Illegality makes their birth place of no concern to us. They are citizens of their parents home country.

Correct
No one ever made USA the repository for the planet where you just plop down and get citizen benefits

 

[StatesRightsForever]

According to your interpretation, these children born here of illegal foreigners should be granted a lifetime get out of jail free card since they're not under our jurisdiction.

WOW. You are really stupid. I clearly said everyone inside our borders is subject to our legal jurisdiction.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

When the SC declares birthright citizenship to be false, what will happen to the millions that were falsely given citizenship in the past.? I suppose they will be grandfathered in and allowed to stay, but that is not really right.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Scotus isnt going to overturn BRC. I agree that i dont believe the cotus meant for brc to be a thing, but, there's no chance scotus will overturn this.

 

[my2¢]

The SC will say the 14A actually BANS straight birthright citizenship.

Summary​

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Ratified in 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment opens with the Citizenship Clause. It reads, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” The Supreme Court addressed the meaning of this key provision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark. Wong Kim Ark was born in San Francisco to parents who were both Chinese citizens. At age 21, he took a trip to China to visit his parents. When he returned to the United States, he was denied entry on the ground that he was not a U.S. citizen. In a 6-to-2 decision, the Court ruled in favor of Wong Kim Ark. Because he was born in the United States and his parents were not “employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China,” the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment automatically made him a U.S. citizen. This case highlighted a disagreement between the Justices over the precise meaning of one key phrase in the Citizenship Clause: “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

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Roe v. Wade was overturned because it was ruled that the Constitution did not grant a right to an abortion. In the birthright citizenship matter we have here, I just don't see any chance of the court reinterpreting the meaning of jurisdiction. In the case of Wong Kim Ark, birthright citizenship withstood the fact that Chinese law at the time forbid its citizens to become citizens of other countries.

 

[progressive hunter]

Summary​

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Ratified in 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment opens with the Citizenship Clause. It reads, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” The Supreme Court addressed the meaning of this key provision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark. Wong Kim Ark was born in San Francisco to parents who were both Chinese citizens. At age 21, he took a trip to China to visit his parents. When he returned to the United States, he was denied entry on the ground that he was not a U.S. citizen. In a 6-to-2 decision, the Court ruled in favor of Wong Kim Ark. Because he was born in the United States and his parents were not “employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China,” the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment automatically made him a U.S. citizen. This case highlighted a disagreement between the Justices over the precise meaning of one key phrase in the Citizenship Clause: “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

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Roe v. Wade was overturned because it was ruled that the Constitution did not grant a right to an abortion. In the birthright citizenship matter we have here, I just don't see the any chance of the court reinterpreting the meaning of jurisdiction. In the case of Wong Kim Ark, birthright citizenship withstood the fact that Chinese law at the time forbid its citizens to become citizens of other countries.

it was clear at the time the 14th was written it only applied to past births of slaves not future births of criminal aliens or anyone else in the future,,

 

[Unkotare]

I can read the COTUS, just fine. ....

That wasn’t the question.

 

[westwall]

That wasn’t the question.

Ahhhhh, but it was. You're simply not educated enough to understand.

 

[Unkotare]

Doesn't say that. It codified former SLAVES as being citizens.

Context matters.

When did you join the Supreme Court?

 

[Unkotare]

... You're simply not educated enough ....

I'm ok.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Even if one does not have the Constitution memorized, it makes ZERO sense to allow people to come to this country illegally, give birth to a child and then call the child a US citizen. That is NOT what the Founders of our country meant. And even if one argues that that is what they meant, it is in effect sending a message to other countries: "Take over the USA! Come here by the millions and have your children, who will automatically be citizens and therefore, you yourselves will have rights and freedoms."

So the children are US citizens but not the parents? And the parents have NO loyalty to this country, or it cannot be assumed in many cases. And who teaches those children who are supposedly citizens? Their parents, who will teach them not to have loyalty to the US (over their country of origin).

This has been going on because we have a lot DUMB and evil people in gummit who can't or won't see the long-term consequences