elektra
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Okay, so it "may have" been the warmest, but it was not? Nice, we are safe another 37 minutes.
February may have been the warmest month on record,
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Okay, so it "may have" been the warmest, but it was not? Nice, we are safe another 37 minutes.
Dale Smith
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Wealth Redistribution | Climatism No warming since 1997? That is when the geo-engineering began in earnest.
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Opening remarks offered by Maurice Strong, who organized the first U.N. Earth Climate Summit (1992) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, revealed the real goal: “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrialized civilization to collapse. Isn’t it our responsibility to bring this about?”
Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S Undersecretary of State for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the UN Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change.)
Also speaking at the Rio conference, Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick, who then headed the policy divisions of the U.S. State Department said: “A global warming treaty [Kyoto] must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”
In 1988, former Canadian Minister of the Environment Christine Stewart told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald:“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
In 1996, former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev emphasized the importance of using climate alarmism to advance socialist Marxist objectives: “The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”
Speaking at the 2000 UN Conference on Climate Change in the Hague, former President Jacques Chirac of France explained why the IPCC’s climate initiative supported a key Western European Kyoto Protocol objective:“For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environmental Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established.”
- See more at: Global Warming was never about climate change!
Former U.S. Senator Timothy Wirth (D-CO), then representing the Clinton-Gore administration as U.S Undersecretary of State for global issues, addressing the same Rio Climate Summit audience, agreed: “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” (Wirth now heads the UN Foundation which lobbies for hundreds of billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to help underdeveloped countries fight climate change.)
Also speaking at the Rio conference, Deputy Assistant of State Richard Benedick, who then headed the policy divisions of the U.S. State Department said: “A global warming treaty [Kyoto] must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”
In 1988, former Canadian Minister of the Environment Christine Stewart told editors and reporters of the Calgary Herald:“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony…climate change [provides] the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
In 1996, former Soviet Union President Mikhail Gorbachev emphasized the importance of using climate alarmism to advance socialist Marxist objectives: “The threat of environmental crisis will be the international disaster key to unlock the New World Order.”
Speaking at the 2000 UN Conference on Climate Change in the Hague, former President Jacques Chirac of France explained why the IPCC’s climate initiative supported a key Western European Kyoto Protocol objective:“For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance, one that should find a place within the World Environmental Organization which France and the European Union would like to see established.”
- See more at: Global Warming was never about climate change!
RollingThunder
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The usual completely insane, rightwingnut ideology-driven, anti-science crackpot conspiracy theory bullshit that the denier cultists are addicted to.
BTW moron, since the El Niño enhanced, unusually hot year of 1998, five years were even hotter and one year was tied with 1998. 14 out of the 15 hottest years on record have happened in this century. Every year since 1998 has been hotter than every year before 1998. So.....stick your bogus "no warming since 1997" bullshit back up your ass.
Global Analysis - 2015
NOAA
Sixteen Warmest Years (1880–2015)
The following table lists the global combined land and ocean annually-averaged temperature rank and anomaly for each of the 16 (two tied at #15) warmest years on record.
RANK
1 = WARMEST
PERIOD OF RECORD: 1880–2015 YEAR ANOMALY °C ANOMALY °F
1. 2015.......0.90.......1.62
2. 2014.......0.74.......1.33
3. 2010.......0.70.......1.26
4. 2013.......0.66.......1.19
5. 2005.......0.65.......1.17
6. 1998.......0.63.......1.13 (tie)
6. 2009.......0.63.......1.13 (tie)
8. 2012.......0.62.......1.12
9. 2003.......0.61.......1.10 (tie)
9. 2006.......0.61.......1.10 (tie)
9. 2007.......0.61.......1.10 (tie)
12. 2002.......0.60.......1.08
13. 2004.......0.57.......1.03 (tie)
13. 2011.......0.57.......1.03 (tie)
15. 2001.......0.54.......0.97 (tie)
15. 2008.......0.54.......0.97 (tie)
Dale Smith
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Not a rightwinger and certainly not a leftard either...I simply know more than you. Climate change B.S is about control and the redistribution of wealth. This was an idea that was thought up by a think tank group. It was called the Iron Mountain report. The Club of Rome was formed in 1969 and their agenda was to push "zero growth". That is what Agenda 21 was all about. We have their own quotes and they are quite damning. The same group of elites that own most of the major oil companies are the same ones wanting a carbon tax that they will collect. Wake up and stop being such a lemming. Technology that would totally get us off of petroleum has been around 80 years or so lest you think differently.
RollingThunder
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Another demented and very pathetic rightwingnut denier cultist who is very obvious heavy into insane crackpot conspiracy theories (lots of them), tries to push his cult's sacred 'Crackpot Conspiracy Theory' myth, which claims that pretty much all of the world's scientists, in over a hundred countries, are somehow all organized in a HUGE (and amazingly still quite secret) conspiracy to (supposedly) "dupe" the world into (supposedly "falsely") believing that atmospheric and ocean temperatures are rapidly rising and the Earth's ice caps and glaciers are melting and that sea levels are rising at an accelerating rate (which of course, they are).....for nefarious reasons that are never quite explained....and no scientist anywhere has ever cracked and confessed and broken the apparently very fierce 'scientific code of silence'.....that is apparently much, much more powerful than the Mafia's puny generations-old, death-threat enforced code of OmertĂ .
But it makes great distracting theater for the denier cult cranks to try to get people to ignore the actual unfolding climate change catastrophes happening right in front of them, and disregard the scientific warnings about what is coming soon as the result of still accelerating global warming and its consequent increasingly disruptive climate changes.
Dale Smith
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I have very few peers. I read and research and attack issues from every angle and this "climate change" is the quintessential "Hegelian Dialectic". Cause the crisis, push the danger while waiting for a call to do something about the very problem that you caused. Forty years ago we were told that we were heading for a mini-Ice Age, then we were told the earth was getting too hot and when the stats showed the earth was actually cooling, we were sold on "Climate Change" to explain the weird weather anomalies. Atmospheric manipulation by "bumping up" the ionosphere using billions of low ELF waves and nano-particulate metals will and can change the course of the jet stream and this has been going on in earnest since 1997. Treaties were signed in 1976 at the U.N where there was an agreement not to use the weather as a weapon of war...nothing against using it on your own country or allies especially if it pushes an agenda. Is there climate change going on? Of course, but not for the reasons you are pushing and it has nothing to do with the fact that people have to use petroleum in order to try and eek out an existence on this shitty planet. BTW, oil is not a fossil fuel, dumb ass.....
RollingThunder
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That's right, Dull Schmuck! And those few unfortunates are all referred to as morons, imbeciles, cretins, and feeble-minded wackos.
As the rest of your unusually demented, bullshit post conclusively demonstrates, you poor insane conspiracy theory crackpot.
Dale Smith
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What a temper-tantrum! This climate change scam is like a friggin' religion to you leftwing loons. All emotion with no ability for critical thinking. You keep on posting about the con side of it and I will merely point it out and present a different side complete with quotes from the very people that are pushing it and what the true agenda is...m'kay?
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Turns out it WAS the hottest on record without question...Blowing the holy fucking shit out of every other month.
Fact.
elektra
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What was the temperature?
RollingThunder
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Nope! That's just your delusional insanity, Dull Schmuck.
Human caused global arming is a scientifically confirmed fact....no emotions....just hard evidence and data. You poor delusional troll.
...the scientifically confirmed facts and the testimony of the real climate scientists.
...more and more evidence of your total ignorance and utter insanity.
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MYTHS / FACTS
COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
MYTH 1: Global temperatures are rising at a rapid, unprecedented rate.
FACT: The HadCRUT3 surface temperature index, produced by the Hadley Centre of the UK Met Office and the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, shows warming to 1878, cooling to 1911, warming to 1941, cooling to 1964, warming to 1998 and cooling through 2011. The warming rate from 1964 to 1998 was the same as the previous warming from 1911 to 1941. Satellites, weather balloons and ground stations all show cooling since 2001. The mild warming of 0.6 to 0.8 C over the 20th century is well within the natural variations recorded in the last millennium. The ground station network suffers from an uneven distribution across the globe; the stations are preferentially located in growing urban and industrial areas ("heat islands"), which show substantially higher readings than adjacent rural areas ("land use effects"). Two science teams have shown that correcting the surface temperature record for the effects of urban development would reduce the reported warming trend over land from 1980 by half. See here.
There has been no catastrophic warming recorded.
MYTH 2: The "hockey stick" graph proves that the earth has experienced a steady, very gradual temperature decrease for 1000 years, then recently began a sudden increase.
FACT: Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time. For instance, the Medieval Warm Period, from around 1000 to1200 AD (when the Vikings farmed on Greenland) was followed by a period known as the Little Ice Age. Since the end of the 17th Century the "average global temperature" has been rising at the low steady rate mentioned above; although from 1940 – 1970 temperatures actually dropped, leading to a Global Cooling scare.
The "hockey stick", a poster boy of both the UN's IPCC and Canada's Environment Department, ignores historical recorded climatic swings, and has now also been proven to be flawed and statistically unreliable as well. It is a computer construct and a faulty one at that. See here for more information.
MYTH 3: Human produced carbon dioxide has increased over the last 100 years, adding to the Greenhouse effect, thus causing most of the earth's warming of the last 100 years.
FACT: Carbon dioxide levels have indeed changed for various reasons, human and otherwise, just as they have throughout geologic time. Since the beginning of the industrial revolution, the CO2 content of the atmosphere has increased by about 120 part per million (ppm), most of which is likely due to human-caused CO2 emissions. The RATE of growth during this century has been about 0.55%/year. However, there is no proof that CO2 is the main driver of global warming. As measured in ice cores dated over many thousands of years, CO2 levels move up and down AFTER the temperature has done so, and thus are the RESULT OF, NOT THE CAUSE of warming. Geological field work in recent sediments confirms this causal relationship. There is solid evidence that, as temperatures move up and down naturally and cyclically through solar radiation, orbital and galactic influences, the warming surface layers of the earth's oceans expel more CO2 as a result.
MYTH 4: CO2 is the most common greenhouse gas.
FACT: Greenhouse gases form about 3% of the atmosphere by volume. They consist of varying amounts, (about 97%) of water vapour and clouds, with the remainder being gases like CO2, CH4, Ozone and N2O, of which carbon dioxide is the largest amount. Hence, CO2 constitutes about 0.04% of the atmosphere. While the minor gases are more effective as "greenhouse agents" than water vapour and clouds, the latter are overwhelming the effect by their sheer volume and – in the end – are thought to be responsible for 75% of the "Greenhouse effect". (See here) At current concentrations, a 3% change of water vapour in the atmosphere would have the same effect as a 100% change in CO2.
Those attributing climate change to CO2 rarely mention these important facts.
MYTH 5: Computer models verify that CO2 increases will cause significant global warming.
FACT: The computer models assume that CO2 is the primary climate driver, and that the Sun has an insignificant effect on climate. Using the output of a model to verify its initial assumption is committing the logical fallacy of circular reasoning. Computer models can be made to roughly match the 20th century temperature rise by adjusting many input parameters and using strong positive feedbacks. They do not "prove" anything. Also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds. The sun is a major cause of temperature variation on the earth surface as its received radiation changes all the time, This happens largely in cyclical fashion. The number and the lengths in time of sunspots can be correlated very closely with average temperatures on earth, e.g. the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. Varying intensity of solar heat radiation affects the surface temperature of the oceans and the currents. Warmer ocean water expels gases, some of which are CO2. Solar radiation interferes with the cosmic ray flux, thus influencing the amount ionized nuclei which control cloud cover.
MYTH 6: The United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has proven that man–made CO2 causes global warming.
FACT: In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were deleted from the final draft approved and accepted by a panel of scientists. Here they are:
1) “None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed climate changes to increases in greenhouse gases.”
2) “No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the climate change to man–made causes”
To the present day there is still no scientific proof that man-made CO2 causes significant global warming.
MYTH 7: CO2 is a pollutant.
FACT: This is absolutely not true. Nitrogen forms 80% of our atmosphere. We could not live in 100% nitrogen either. Carbon dioxide is no more a pollutant than nitrogen is. CO2 is essential to life on earth. It is necessary for plant growth since increased CO2 intake as a result of increased atmospheric concentration causes many trees and other plants to grow more vigorously. Unfortunately, the Canadian Government has included CO2 with a number of truly toxic and noxious substances listed by the Environmental Protection Act, only as their means to politically control it. The graph here shows changes in vegetative cover due to CO2 fertilization between 1982 and 2010 (Donohue et al., 2013 GRL). A major study here shows that CO2 fertilization will likely increase the value of crop production between now and 2050 by an additional $11.7 trillion ($US 2014). See here for more discussion.
MYTH 8: Global warming will cause more storms and other weather extremes.
FACT: There is no scientific or statistical evidence whatsoever that supports such claims on a global scale. Regional variations may occur. Growing insurance and infrastructure repair costs, particularly in coastal areas, are sometimes claimed to be the result of increasing frequency and severity of storms, whereas in reality they are a function of increasing population density, escalating development value, and ever more media reporting. See here for graphs and discussion of extreme weather.
MYTH 9: Receding glaciers and the calving of ice shelves are proof of man-made global warming.
FACT: Glaciers have been receding and growing cyclically for hundreds of years. Recent glacier melting is a consequence of coming out of the very cool period of the Little Ice Age. Ice shelves have been breaking off for centuries. Scientists know of at least 33 periods of glaciers growing and then retreating. It’s normal. Besides, changes to glacier's extent is dependent as much on precipitation as on temperature.
MYTH 10: The earth’s poles are warming and the polar ice caps are breaking up and melting.
FACT: The earth is variable. The Arctic Region had warmed from 1966 to 2005, due to cyclic events in the Pacific Ocean and soot from Asia darkening the ice, but there has been no warming since 2005. Current temperatures are the same as in 1943. The small Palmer Peninsula of Antarctica is getting warmer, while the main Antarctic continent is actually cooling. Ice cap thicknesses in both Greenland and Antarctica are increasing. North polar temperature graph here. South polar temperature graph here. See here for sea ice extent.
- See more at: Friends of Science | The Myths and Facts of Global Warming
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Old Rocks
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OK, so you continue to push that idiot meme. Silly ass, show us one Scientific Society, one National Academy of Science, or one major University that states that AGW is not real. You cannot, because such does not exist.
But I can post here all day long the statements from various scientific societies that state that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. Scientific societies from every industrial nation in the world, and many from the second and third world nations.
Do you really think that there is a unbreakable conspiracy among the vast majority of scientists in the world to fool all the rest of us? Do you think that people like Limpbaugh and Inhofe actually possess more knowledge than the scientists that have spent decades studying the climate?
But I can post here all day long the statements from various scientific societies that state that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. Scientific societies from every industrial nation in the world, and many from the second and third world nations.
Do you really think that there is a unbreakable conspiracy among the vast majority of scientists in the world to fool all the rest of us? Do you think that people like Limpbaugh and Inhofe actually possess more knowledge than the scientists that have spent decades studying the climate?
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And, by the way, the IPCC had nothing to do with the proof that GHG's cause global warming. That proof was provided by John Tyndall in 1859. That you are ignorant of that is proof that you do not have the knowledge to even comment in an intelligent manner on this topic. Instead, Dale, you are just repeating the ignorant twaddle of the rightwingnut retards.
Dale Smith
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Nope, but I think there is a real agenda that is being hidden. I have no doubt that climate change is happening but it is not getting warmer, it is getting cooler because of the aerosol spraying of nano-particulates of various metals. It reflects heat but it also traps it so the temps at night are not as cool as they once were. This geo-engineering of the NATO countries is absolutely insane. European countries are much more aware of this program than the sheeple here. You can go to youtube and type in "chemtrails and any European country and find ordinary citizens filming their skies being whited out. They also have made some incredible documentaries with sub-titles trying to alert people as to what is going on...it has the potential to cause absolute genocide if this is not stopped. Food will not grow in aluminum corrupted soil...but you know what will grow? Monsanto genetically modified seeds that have been proven to cause cancerous tumors in lab mice and cause sterilization within three generations. In the mean time, the global elites have created two different seed vaults with heirloom seeds...wake up, old timer...you are not in Kansas anymore.
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A fine collection of total bullshit and anti-science denier cult propaganda written by stooges for the fossil fuel industry. You are SUCH a gullible clueless retard, Dull Schmuck!
Fossil fuel industry front group and worthless propaganda outlet. Only very ignorant rightwingnut imbeciles fall for that twaddle.
Oil Companies Funding Friends of Science
DeSmog
By James Hoggan
August 12, 2006
A Globe and Mail feature article by Charles Montgomery today has delivered what should be a death blow for the climate change denial and anti-Kyoto attack group, the Friends of Science.
The G&M says that FOS has taken undisclosed sums from Alberta oil and gas interests. The money was funneled through the Calgary Foundation, to the University of Calgary and on to the FOS though something called the “Science Education Fund.”
All this appears to be orchestrated by Stephen Harper’s long-time political confidante and fishing buddy, U. Calgary Prof Dr. Barry Cooper. It seems the FOS has taken a page right out of the US climate change attack group’s playbook: funnel money through foundations and third party groups to “wipe the oil” off the dollars they receive.
This comes as no surprise considering the FOS has been linked to some of the most notorious oil money-backed scientists in the US, including Drs. S. Fred Singer, Sallie Baliunas, Sherwood Idso, Willie Soon, Robert C. Balling and Pat Michaels.
RollingThunder
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LOLOLOLOL....you poor insane conspiracy theory wacko.....you actually believe that bullshit twaddle??? LOLOLOLOLOL.
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