You got anything other than the bible? "The bible is true because the bible says it is true" isn't quite enough to prove your point.You're not asking for evidence in line with scientific evidence for historical claims, are you?
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You got anything other than the bible? "The bible is true because the bible says it is true" isn't quite enough to prove your point.You're not asking for evidence in line with scientific evidence for historical claims, are you?
You got anything other than the bible? "The bible is true because the bible says it is true" isn't quite enough to prove your point.
And those accounts are doccumented by what? The Bible?Yes. The accounts of how the apostles lived and then died.
Before the resurrection they were often "pious" and sometimes not and really....just like us. There's bumbling, doubt, cowardice and sometimes, close to outright buffoonery. Jesus Christ calls Peter the Rock and then Peter, right before Jesus' death and only hours before pledging his undying fidelity, denies Him three times.
Such is the life of the "believer" without the Holy Spirit. Who cannot see the humanity of this--and themselves in it?
Jesus is killed and they run off and hide, basically. They seem to remember nothing of what their Friend and Teacher taught. Again. Just like us.
But then they encounter the risen Christ. And then, one after another, go to their deaths--often horrid deaths--to protect their testimony. These same men who denied Jesus and then ran away after He was crucified.
It is more complicated (and interesting) than that. For years I keep meaning to do better research on Dante and his times. The Inferno seems to reflect not only Christian teaching, but also pagan and medieval social beliefs of the time of demonology. Recall he was exiled from Florence over a financial battle (he was on the losing side).He presented the then Catholic Church view of the ---uhm "after life"
Texts written more than 100 years AD can only reasonably attest to stories passed down. I suppose they can be trusted to indicate the presence of the beginnings of a religion, but can hardly be seen as proof of divinity, or a miraculous resurection.Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources
Do any other ancient documents help to confirm the trustworthiness of the New Testament?www.bethinking.org
The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares where an enemy sowed weeds after the farmer planted wheat. The harvest is not yet here where the two will be separated.I wish someone would explain him to me as after decades of prayers and effort, peace never arrived while the most evil among us constsntly profited.
I don't doubt the theories and kind words of Christians. The problem is that oir approach isn't working. Evil is abound and often masquerading as good. We passively accept this, which ensures our demise. Look at Ontario, we are essentially bankrupt and our morality and defense of liberty has long been replaced. Whatever justice on this earth it won't occur in my lifetime.The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares where an enemy sowed weeds after the farmer planted wheat. The harvest is not yet here where the two will be separated.
Wages are not considered punishment are they. They are consequences of what one has sown. Not to mention, it was not Jesus who said this, it was Paul who was reflecting on sin. Go by the way of sin, and that leads to death. Go by the way Christ taught leads to kingdom living. No one needed to be punished for sins to be forgiven, according to Jesus repentance took care of forgiveness.I don't know why you ride this hobby horse all the time.
"For the wages of sin is death" Romans 6:23
And those accounts are doccumented by what? The Bible?
What fascinates me about Jesus is that he did not give all that much attention to how to get along with government/politicians--but how to get along with the people in our own lives that truly matter to us.I don't doubt the theories and kind words of Christians. The problem is that oir approach isn't working. Evil is abound and often masquerading as good. We passively accept this, which ensures our demise. Look at Ontario, we are essentially bankrupt and our morality and defense of liberty has long been replaced. Whatever justice on this earth it won't occur in my lifetime.
You got anything other than the bible? "The bible is true because the bible says it is true" isn't quite enough to prove your point.
Oh gee Meri I read the book, uhm---some 60 years ago. for school. The "socialIt is more complicated (and interesting) than that. For years I keep meaning to do better research on Dante and his times. The Inferno seems to reflect not only Christian teaching, but also pagan and medieval social beliefs of the time of demonology. Recall he was exiled from Florence over a financial battle (he was on the losing side).
The other question to be answered is whether Dante reflected the Catholic view of hell at the time...or whether the Catholic view of hell (or at least the Catholic population) was influenced by Dante's Inferno. Anyway, an interesting man who lived an interesting life.
No, Isaiah 53 doesn't. Show me the word "messiah" in Isaiah 53.It was foretold that the Messiah would be rejected by most men.
Isaiah 53 describes how he will be rejected, beaten, struck down and led to the slaughter.
People get healed of cancer in the Name of Jesus. There are many miracles that occur among the faithful, in Christ's Name.
In My not so Humble Opinion The people who can explain JESUS ---No, Isaiah 53 doesn't. Show me the word "messiah" in Isaiah 53.
It doesn't have to have the word "messiah" to be of the messiah. The Hebrew Bible identifies the messiah as David. It uses the word David in more than one verse, yet we know that the Messiah isn't literally David. The Hebrew Bible can use different words, symbolically, and metaphorically, to refer to something else. The suffering servant in Isaiah 53 is the Messiah, without being identified literally as the Messiah. It's not identified literally as Israel or the remnant of Israel either, yet you believe it's exclusively Israel. Another interpretation is that it is the prophet Isaiah himself, who is also identified as the servant of God in the book of Isaiah.No, Isaiah 53 doesn't. Show me the word "messiah" in Isaiah 53.
breezie----have you ever come across the phrase "ONE TRICK PONY" ???keep w/ jesus, heavenly endowment of self determination and all will be well the fallacy of christianity will accomplish nothing than servitude and self pity.
Nope----the name of "the messiah" is not "david"----"david" is the name ofIt doesn't have to have the word "messiah" to be of the messiah. The Hebrew Bible identifies the messiah as David. It uses the word David in more than one verse, yet we know that the Messiah isn't literally David. The Hebrew Bible can use different words, symbolically, and metaphorically, to refer to something else. The suffering servant in Isaiah 53 is the Messiah, without being identified literally as the Messiah. It's not identified literally as Israel or the remnant of Israel either, yet you believe it's exclusively Israel. Another interpretation is that it is the prophet Isaiah himself, who is also identified as the servant of God in the book of Isaiah.
The remnant of Israel and the Messiah are one according to Daniel 7.