Evidence that universe created itself

[Muhammed]

Then what created the original universe?

Nothing.

 

[sealybobo]

Then what created the original universe?

Nothing.

What did the eternal god live in before he created the universe?

Theists need to wake up. They have no problem believing God and their own souls are eternal but not the Cosmos? Stupid

 

[Chuz Life]

Logical thought.

Perhaps you could be more specific.

Are you religious, for example?

Do you believe in a God?

If so, the God(s) of which religion?
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Will you answer my question(s)?
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My father uses the same logical thought. Won't listen to a word, mocks scientific answers because he doesn't understand.

Even though the clock maker argument is no good he uses it constantly. He asks me, how could it be that..." And when I explain he doesn't listen.

Even though science has filled those gaps my dad's still struggling with god of the gaps.

And when the scientific facts don't don't suite your agenda?

Then what?

Toss that theory out

Scientifically, can something begin after it has already began?

 

[Chuz Life]

Yes? No?

 

[skye]

Yes? No?

your avatar Chuz Life

 

[Mac1958]

we

don't

know.


It's okay to admit you don't know.

holy crap.

.

 

[rightwinger]

There is no evidence that the universe creates matter

Poof...theres the sun
Poof....just made Jupiter
Poof....here comes Saturn
Poof.....here is the earth

There is no physical process that creates matter out of nothing

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There is no evidence that the universe creates matter

Poof...theres the sun
Poof....just made Jupiter
Poof....here comes Saturn
Poof.....here is the earth

There is no physical process that creates matter out of nothing

Matter was created from energy, not from "nothing". Energy is conserved, not matter.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What ya got?

Matter cannot be created or destroyed
The universe has always been here

So the Big Bang is bullshit?

All Is Lava

It was a continuous eruption from the 4th spatial dimension. The original substance transformed into light, matter, energy, and even space itself.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What ya got?

Well, what makes it a still intriguing idea first is that the net energy of our universe may be exactly zero.

We also know that Quantum states can evolve through time so that they pass through different phases where they may appear as nothing and then later appear as something.

 

[ChemEngineer]

If the universe is so complex it has to have been created by a being or god of some sort, then this being or god has to have been created by something, which in turn has to have been created by something, which in turn has to have been created by something. So, you can keep going back as far as you like. The logic that the universe was created by somebody or something doesn't wash.
If the universe couldn't have created itself, then the god who created the universe couldn't have created itself, and whoever created that god couldn't have created itself either.
So, you're really at a dead end.

You simply regurgitate the nonsense of other atheists, chiefly Richard Dawkins, who doesn't even understand statistics which you too abused so terribly with your opening deck.

Watch A Matter of Gravity by Professor John Lennox. He slices and dices Richard Dawkins and your jejune pretend argument. "If someone made God, then He wouldn't be God, would He?" - John Lennox

It's just that simple to dismiss the "Who made God" giggle. Not everything is comprehensible, particularly Nature's God. Nobody reading this can begin to explain thoroughly the nuances of the electromagnetic spectrum, and how so many different wavelengths can pass through air, each other, and solids, without the slightest bit of interference and maintain their fidelity and strength, just for starters.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

John Lennox is a christian apologist quack. When he sticks to purely mathematics, he is a genius.

 

[ding]

What ya got?

Consciousness without form.

Because logically no thing can be eternal. Consciousness without form is no thing.

 

[sealybobo]

If the universe is so complex it has to have been created by a being or god of some sort, then this being or god has to have been created by something, which in turn has to have been created by something, which in turn has to have been created by something. So, you can keep going back as far as you like. The logic that the universe was created by somebody or something doesn't wash.
If the universe couldn't have created itself, then the god who created the universe couldn't have created itself, and whoever created that god couldn't have created itself either.
So, you're really at a dead end.

You simply regurgitate the nonsense of other atheists, chiefly Richard Dawkins, who doesn't even understand statistics which you too abused so terribly with your opening deck.

Watch A Matter of Gravity by Professor John Lennox. He slices and dices Richard Dawkins and your jejune pretend argument. "If someone made God, then He wouldn't be God, would He?" - John Lennox

It's just that simple to dismiss the "Who made God" giggle. Not everything is comprehensible, particularly Nature's God. Nobody reading this can begin to explain thoroughly the nuances of the electromagnetic spectrum, and how so many different wavelengths can pass through air, each other, and solids, without the slightest bit of interference and maintain their fidelity and strength, just for starters.

You’re smarter than Richard Dawkins?

 

[james bond]

There are theories, such as String Theory. There is a theory that White Holes exist - the opposite of Black Holes, and mathematically possible. Instead of sucking in matter like Black Holes, White Holes shoot out matter. So our particular universe could have simply exploded out of the ass end of one of those.

The brilliant Lawrence Krauss has a new book out on this, "A Universe From Nothing", https://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/1451624468&tag=ff0d01-20

That's the beauty and fun of science: You always get to be curious, challenge yourself, ask questions, think, experiment, and admit that you don't have all the answers. Awesome!
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That's not science. That's made up stuff by the atheist religion.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I haven't a single doubt that the Universe was created and there there is a Creator. It's just completely beyond human potential to try to understand or explain; like an ant walking on Giza Pyramid and pretending to understand the architecture

 

[ChemEngineer]

I haven't a single doubt that the Universe was created and there there is a Creator. It's just completely beyond human potential to try to understand or explain; like an ant walking on Giza Pyramid and pretending to understand the architecture

I often liken humans trying to understand God, to worms trying to understand humans.

If our brains are oh so powerful due to "evolutionary progress," then why:
1. Can salmon find the stream where they spawned without our sophisticated navigation systems, and without chemical laboratories which in any event could not BEGIN to differentiate one stream effluent, diluted by billions of gallons of sea water, from another stream effluent?
2. Can newborn animals run moments after birth when it takes humans months to learn how to walk?
3. Can spiders spin elegant webs and catch prey through very clever means when NOBODY taught them?
4. Can thousands of different animals navigate thousands of miles every season, many of them for the first time?

You could continue this line of questioning indefinitely and never get an adequate answer. The best Darwinists can do is say "It's better that way" or "They inherited it." Yeah, right. Why don't humans inherit all this wonderfulness, hmmm?

 

[abu afak]

What ya got?

Evidence that a 'god' created itself?

Another 'God of the Gaps' post
(making up one for what you don't understand.. yet)

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[esalla]

There are theories, such as String Theory. There is a theory that White Holes exist - the opposite of Black Holes, and mathematically possible. Instead of sucking in matter like Black Holes, White Holes shoot out matter. So our particular universe could have simply exploded out of the ass end of one of those.

The brilliant Lawrence Krauss has a new book out on this, "A Universe From Nothing", https://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/1451624468&tag=ff0d01-20

That's the beauty and fun of science: You always get to be curious, challenge yourself, ask questions, think, experiment, and admit that you don't have all the answers. Awesome!
.

Was play dough there

 

[esalla]

I haven't a single doubt that the Universe was created and there there is a Creator. It's just completely beyond human potential to try to understand or explain; like an ant walking on Giza Pyramid and pretending to understand the architecture

I often liken humans trying to understand God, to worms trying to understand humans.

If our brains are oh so powerful due to "evolutionary progress," then why:
1. Can salmon find the stream where they spawned without our sophisticated navigation systems, and without chemical laboratories which in any event could not BEGIN to differentiate one stream effluent, diluted by billions of gallons of sea water, from another stream effluent?
2. Can newborn animals run moments after birth when it takes humans months to learn how to walk?
3. Can spiders spin elegant webs and catch prey through very clever means when NOBODY taught them?
4. Can thousands of different animals navigate thousands of miles every season, many of them for the first time?

You could continue this line of questioning indefinitely and never get an adequate answer. The best Darwinists can do is say "It's better that way" or "They inherited it." Yeah, right. Why don't humans inherit all this wonderfulness, hmmm?

Can salmon catch and eat humans