quantum computer generates the first truly random numbers ever

Yes, but I was not really talking about our biologically-driven perceptions. My point is that time exists independent of whether anyone is there or not to measure it.
  • If I walk across the room, it takes time.
  • If an atom vibrates, it takes time.
Time is the inescapable fabric which holds space together.

Time must pass for work to be performed ... a gigawatt transfers zero energy after zero seconds ... a light bulb doesn't radiate anything in zero seconds ... motion itself is absent without time ...

Newton assumed time was absolute ... and everything else in the universe can be measured using time as the reference ... a second is a second everyplace in the universe at all times ... and this explained everything we saw in the universe in the 19th Century except the orbit of Mercury ...

Alas ... turns out time is relative, not absolute ... that's what relative in Special Relativity ... time ... a second passes more slowly on Mercury, we'll always get bad results using Earth seconds ... then we generalize these solutions into a four-dimensional space to get General Relativity ...

The 20th Century brought an amazing improvement on equipment and today we see all kinds of phenomena that can only be explained with GR, not Newton ...

Timing is critical in biology ... or we wouldn't get laid ...
 
Yes, but I was not really talking about our biologically-driven perceptions. My point is that time exists independent of whether anyone is there or not to measure it.
  • If I walk across the room, it takes time.
  • If an atom vibrates, it takes time.
Time is the inescapable fabric which holds space together.

Carbon 14 will still combine with oxygen to form carbon dioxide. U-235 will still decay into Thorium-232 and eventually becomes lead-208.

But yes, there are a lot of junk scientists out there that try to deny that "time" exists. Myself, I tend to view it as a measurement of entropy. Because no matter what, after a period of time everything is going to die.
 
As is well known, digital computers are incapable of generating truly random numbers.

The best they can do is "quasi-random", which means they look random but will repeat after a long enough time.

Turns out, quantum land is the one and only place in the universe where we get truly random behavior.

And now for the first time, quantum computers are proven to be able to harness this behavior.


From the standpoint of physics, randomness is a primary property of the quantum universe. No one knows how it happens. One of the very interesting things about it is, its distribution is flat, not Gaussian. In other words, it disobeys the law of large numbers.

Which in turn means that there's a unitary process underlying it. (As distinct from a bunch of little processes).

Nothing in this universe would be possible without the randomness. Everything from our consciousness to light itself depends on it.

Mathematically, it is entirely unclear whether there is any connection between randomness and quantization. No one knows if these are different processes, or part of the same process. Quantization is associated with counting, whereas randomness falls into the "uncountable" category. One can think of this in terms of the difference between the integers and the reals. The integers are "countably infinite" whereas the reals are "uncountable".

The relationship between the two was explored by the mathematician Georg Cantor, who discovered the famous Cantor Dust. It works like this:

Quantum processes generate random real numbers between 0 and 1. So take the interval (0,1) and chop out the middle third. (Which means you know have two intervals remaining, the left third and the right third, each of which have length 1/3). For every remaining interval, chop out the middle third, and keep doing this recursively an infinite number of times. You end up with a "dust", and what Cantor proved is that this dust has the same number of points as the interval it started from. The dust has the same number of points as the entire interval (0,1), its cardinality is the same.

This remarkable and counterintuitive proof arises because we're trying to count the reals. Which, apparently, doesn't work. In math, 'points' are countable, and topology changes this into the concept of "neighborhoods", which overlap in uncountable ways.

So when we generate a random number, we're not really generating a 'point', we're generating a neighborhood. This concept is driven home in probability theory. If you have a continuous distribution with probabilities on the interval (0,1), the probability of getting "exactly" .5 is ZERO. However the probability of getting a result in an epsilon-neighborhood around .5 is finite and positive. In other words you have to integrate over the neighborhood to get a non-zero probability.
How about String Theory?
 
Time must pass for work to be performed ...
True. Time is essential because all things in the universe are in motion. Even at the quantum foam level, myriad subatomic particles are constantly coming into and leaving existence.

Newton assumed time was absolute ... and everything else in the universe can be measured using time as the reference ... a second is a second everyplace in the universe at all times ... Alas ... turns out time is relative, not absolute ...
Well, Newton cannot be faulted as he was as right as possible for him to be in his time. At a certain level, time IS absolute--- a second is always a second just that it must be compared within the local framework of spacetime. Where you run into trouble is when you try to compare a second here with me sitting in a chair with another person's second far away traveling very fast.

that's what relative in Special Relativity ...
The problem with Special Relativity is that it only works for a special case--- for an object moving at a constant speed in a straight line, it is not generally applicable to all things everywhere, that is where Einstein's General Relativity came into play.
 
Carbon 14 will still combine with oxygen to form carbon dioxide. U-235 will still decay into Thorium-232 and eventually becomes lead-208.
Sure, all these things occur in time because they take time to happen.

But yes, there are a lot of junk scientists out there that try to deny that "time" exists.
I'm not sure whether they are junk scientists or merely have had politics creep into their "science." Politics seems to be in everything these days.

Myself, I tend to view it as a measurement of entropy.
That might be an excellent way of viewing the roll of Time, as entropy is the inevitable result of Time + Space.
Without Time, there can be no entropy.
 
Wow, really?




Yeah, really.

Lots of people fall for the media hype.

Mostly people who aren't tuned in to the actual science.

Here's a heads up: no cat is ever alive and dead at the same time. It doesn't happen. It's never happened even once in the entire history of the universe
 
Here's a heads up: no cat is ever alive and dead at the same time. It doesn't happen. It's never happened even once in the entire history of the universe

You didn't know my cat.

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Serious, that only refers to probabilities.
 
How about String Theory?
Honestly I don't know much about it.

It's supposedly physicists looking for a way to reconcile gravity and quantum mechanics.

I'm not sure what a vibrating string would add to a discussion of randomness.

The most convincing version of string theory I've heard is the E8xE8 hypothesis, but that's "the" most complicated Lie group, it seems to me there has to be a simpler more elegant solution.
 
That might be an excellent way of viewing the roll of Time, as entropy is the inevitable result of Time + Space.
Without Time, there can be no entropy.

I even view it in another way.

I am old enough to remember when a lot of cosmologists were still questioning the "Ultimate End" of the Universe. And at one time, it was generally divided into two camps.

One was that the "Big Bang" would eventually slow down, then gravity would start to become the dominant force. Eventually reaching a point where all matter recondensed into a single point, a "new singularity" where the Big Bang would happen again (sometimes call "Critical Density" or the "Big Crunch"). However, that has pretty much been dismissed now, other than those wanting to deny that the expansion is still ongoing and accelerating. Mostly from what I see by trying to attach what I call "Magical Properties" to "Dark Something".

The reality is, there is nothing that seems to contradict the eventual fate is heat death, in about 10 to the power of 100 years. And in the end, as in all things entropy wins. Eventually all the stars will consume all the hydrogen, what will be left is burned cinders and black holes slowly evaporating away. Leaving only cold dead matter moving away forever in a lightless void.
 
Serious, that only refers to probabilities.

There seems to be a relationship between the mystifying state of quantum superposition, and the generation of random numbers.

The random outcome happens when the multiple states collap5se to one.

It "behaves like" a saddle point dynamically, you can get there along one axis but the instant there is even the tiniest change along the other, the superposition collapses.

Measuring a superposition is like a hand trying to catch its own thumb. Any such attempt imparts or absorbs energy, thereby derailing the combined state.
 
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