Evidence that universe created itself

[sealybobo]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

But it's not a superstition believing a entity, calling itself God, created itself?

I think the evidence indicates that a power not confined to this universe or its laws caused everything in this universe to happen. Perhaps you believe that the universe caused itself to happen. If so, how did the universe cause itself to come into existence?

There is a natural explanation for it and if science figured out the answer to your question you would simply move your goal post or ask another question that can never be answered. There are some things we will never know like what happened 13 billion years before the big bang. Or are there other universes? So you can settle on an ancient religion your ancestors invented or keep looking for the truth

 

[Mac1958]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

Okay, so in what do you put your "faith"?.

Logical thought.

Perhaps you could be more specific.

Are you religious, for example?

Do you believe in a God?

If so, the God(s) of which religion?
.

Will you answer my question(s)?
.

 

[sealybobo]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

Okay, so in what do you put your "faith"?.

Logical thought.

Perhaps you could be more specific.

Are you religious, for example?

Do you believe in a God?

If so, the God(s) of which religion?
.

Will you answer my question(s)?
.

My father uses the same logical thought. Won't listen to a word, mocks scientific answers because he doesn't understand.

Even though the clock maker argument is no good he uses it constantly. He asks me, how could it be that..." And when I explain he doesn't listen.

Even though science has filled those gaps my dad's still struggling with god of the gaps.

 

[rightwinger]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

But it's not a superstition believing a entity, calling itself God, created itself?

I think the evidence indicates that a power not confined to this universe or its laws caused everything in this universe to happen. Perhaps you believe that the universe caused itself to happen. If so, how did the universe cause itself to come into existence?

There is a natural explanation for it and if science figured out the answer to your question you would simply move your goal post or ask another question that can never be answered. There are some things we will never know like what happened 13 billion years before the big bang. Or are there other universes? So you can settle on an ancient religion your ancestors invented or keep looking for the truth

Until we can recreate a universe in the laboratory, they will not accept it

 

[BulletProof]

Until we can recreate a universe in the laboratory, they will not accept it

Until you can come up with better than "In the beginning nothing created the universe", you don't even have anything to consider.

 

[rightwinger]

Until we can recreate a universe in the laboratory, they will not accept it

Until you can come up with better than "In the beginning nothing created the universe", you don't even have anything to consider.

I don't believe anything "created" the universe
Matter cannot be created or destroyed. All the matter we have today has always been here....none has been created out of nothingness
You cannot "create" an atom out of thin air

If it is possible to create matter...Why hasn't any been created in the last billion years?
Why can't an atom be created in a lab?

 

[BulletProof]

I don't believe anything "created" the universe
Matter cannot be created or destroyed. All the matter we have today has always been here....none has been created out of nothingness
You cannot "create" an atom out of thin air

If it is possible to create matter...Why hasn't any been created in the last billion years?
Why can't an atom be created in a lab?

That's right, you believe in something infinity greater than humans, and infinity greater than the universe, but it's still as simple as a rock. That's not really any better than saying nothing created the universe.

Implicit in the Big Bang model is the continued creation of matter/energy. Expansion of the universe pulls apart gravitational bound bodies, and therefor requires a constant supply of energy that didn't previously exist.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't believe anything "created" the universe
Matter cannot be created or destroyed. All the matter we have today has always been here....none has been created out of nothingness
You cannot "create" an atom out of thin air

If it is possible to create matter...Why hasn't any been created in the last billion years?
Why can't an atom be created in a lab?

That's right, you believe in something infinity greater than humans, and infinity greater than the universe, but it's still as simple as a rock. That's not really any better than saying nothing created the universe.

Implicit in the Big Bang model is the continued creation of matter/energy. Expansion of the universe pulls apart gravitational bound bodies, and therefor requires a constant supply of energy that didn't previously exist.

All the basic elements of the universe have remained the same for billions of years. Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon.........
They are our "God"

Nothing in the Big Bang claims a creation of matter
Einstein defined it best
E=mc2

 

[sealybobo]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

But it's not a superstition believing a entity, calling itself God, created itself?

I think the evidence indicates that a power not confined to this universe or its laws caused everything in this universe to happen. Perhaps you believe that the universe caused itself to happen. If so, how did the universe cause itself to come into existence?

There is a natural explanation for it and if science figured out the answer to your question you would simply move your goal post or ask another question that can never be answered. There are some things we will never know like what happened 13 billion years before the big bang. Or are there other universes? So you can settle on an ancient religion your ancestors invented or keep looking for the truth

Until we can recreate a universe in the laboratory, they will not accept it

Funny you say that because yesterday I was watching something about how they did create a little universe. This isn't what I was listening to but I googled the subject and

'A Big Bang In A Little Room' Explores How Scientists Could Create A New Universe

Physicists create world's first multiverse of universes in the lab - ExtremeTech

 

[G.T.]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

But it's not a superstition believing a entity, calling itself God, created itself?

I think the evidence indicates that a power not confined to this universe or its laws caused everything in this universe to happen. Perhaps you believe that the universe caused itself to happen. If so, how did the universe cause itself to come into existence?

There is a natural explanation for it and if science figured out the answer to your question you would simply move your goal post or ask another question that can never be answered. There are some things we will never know like what happened 13 billion years before the big bang. Or are there other universes? So you can settle on an ancient religion your ancestors invented or keep looking for the truth

Until we can recreate a universe in the laboratory, they will not accept it

Funny you say that because yesterday I was watching something about how they did create a little universe. This isn't what I was listening to but I googled the subject and

'A Big Bang In A Little Room' Explores How Scientists Could Create A New Universe

Physicists create world's first multiverse of universes in the lab - ExtremeTech

Dont youtube "The Mandela Effect," lol. Its kooky but it can make ya pause a few times.

 

[BulletProof]

Implicit in the Big Bang model is the continued creation of matter/energy. Expansion of the universe pulls apart gravitational bound bodies, and therefor requires a constant supply of energy that didn't previously exist.

All the basic elements of the universe have remained the same for billions of years. Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon.........
They are our "God"

Nothing in the Big Bang claims a creation of matter
Einstein defined it best
E=mc2

Too bad what I said went over your head.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Until we can recreate a universe in the laboratory, they will not accept it

Until you can come up with better than "In the beginning nothing created the universe", you don't even have anything to consider.

So you suggest that any talk of God should be thrown out of the discussion as nothing to consider

We agree

 

[rightwinger]

Implicit in the Big Bang model is the continued creation of matter/energy. Expansion of the universe pulls apart gravitational bound bodies, and therefor requires a constant supply of energy that didn't previously exist.

All the basic elements of the universe have remained the same for billions of years. Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon.........
They are our "God"

Nothing in the Big Bang claims a creation of matter
Einstein defined it best
E=mc2

Too bad what I said went over your head.

Big bangs create energy
Lots of it

 

[BulletProof]

Big bangs create energy
Lots of it

That's nonsense. I wish one of your fellow apes would try to educate you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don't believe anything "created" the universe
Matter cannot be created or destroyed. All the matter we have today has always been here....none has been created out of nothingness
You cannot "create" an atom out of thin air

If it is possible to create matter...Why hasn't any been created in the last billion years?
Why can't an atom be created in a lab?

That's right, you believe in something infinity greater than humans, and infinity greater than the universe, but it's still as simple as a rock. That's not really any better than saying nothing created the universe.

Implicit in the Big Bang model is the continued creation of matter/energy. Expansion of the universe pulls apart gravitational bound bodies, and therefor requires a constant supply of energy that didn't previously exist.

All the basic elements of the universe have remained the same for billions of years. Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon.........
They are our "God"

Nothing in the Big Bang claims a creation of matter
Einstein defined it best
E=mc2

To clarify:

Energy is conserved, but not necessarily matter. Matter can be "created" and "destroyed", but the net energy is conserved. And, due to fusion and fission, the proportions of the elements in the universe are constantly changing.

 

[rightwinger]

Big bangs create energy
Lots of it

That's nonsense. I wish one of your fellow apes would try to educate you.

 

[IsaacNewton]

A universe arising out of nothing is supported by math and physics.

 

[Political Junky]

Then what created the original universe?

What created "the creator"?

 

[Chuz Life]

I'd like to believe that the universe created itself, but I just don't have faith in such superstitions.

Okay, so in what do you put your "faith"?.

Logical thought.

Perhaps you could be more specific.

Are you religious, for example?

Do you believe in a God?

If so, the God(s) of which religion?
.

Will you answer my question(s)?
.

My father uses the same logical thought. Won't listen to a word, mocks scientific answers because he doesn't understand.

Even though the clock maker argument is no good he uses it constantly. He asks me, how could it be that..." And when I explain he doesn't listen.

Even though science has filled those gaps my dad's still struggling with god of the gaps.

And when the scientific facts don't don't suite your agenda?

Then what?

 

[sealybobo]

Okay, so in what do you put your "faith"?.

Logical thought.

Perhaps you could be more specific.

Are you religious, for example?

Do you believe in a God?

If so, the God(s) of which religion?
.

Will you answer my question(s)?
.

My father uses the same logical thought. Won't listen to a word, mocks scientific answers because he doesn't understand.

Even though the clock maker argument is no good he uses it constantly. He asks me, how could it be that..." And when I explain he doesn't listen.

Even though science has filled those gaps my dad's still struggling with god of the gaps.

And when the scientific facts don't don't suite your agenda?

Then what?

Toss that theory out