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Only a solipsist would think he knows more than a health expert.
The hubris never ends....
You really have no clue what is going on.
Ok, enlighten me. I’m all ears.
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Only a solipsist would think he knows more than a health expert.
The hubris never ends....
You really have no clue what is going on.
My guess is that it's not his intent to cause this damage. He has completely committed his presidency, at least his first term, to placating his base. And his base - those who get their worldviews from Hannity, Carlson, QAnon - want/expect him to be anti-science. That's his only priority, because it's those people who got him elected. He's driven by this desperation to be accepted, even if it's by people like that. And part of this is also that any damage he causes will be blamed on anyone else.Remember: Trump good, science bad. Only Trump speaks Da Troof. Everything else is Deep State Commie Marxist Fake News.What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
I guess we have come to that.
All trump is doing is making this virus worse. Which makes the economy worse.
I just have to wonder why he is doing this.
The fact that he doesn't take any responsibility for what he has done.
The fact that he has the best experts in the world at his fingertips yet refuses to follow their advice and on top of that goes out of his way to trash and discredit them.
The fact that he sees the virus out of control with thousands dying and does nothing.
The fact that he says masks aren't needed, refuses to wear one and does the exact opposite of what the experts say should be done.
Those and other facts lead me to believe he is intentionally causing this damage. Or just doesn't care.
He has been told the facts. He has chosen to ignore facts.
I do believe he is doing this on purpose or just doesn't care. I just don't understand why.
No one is this stupid. No one who sees what is happening turns a blind eye to it without a very good reason.
I would like to know that reason.
Yep, I wonder that too because some of his base is certainly dying from the virus.
I think he really believes it. And I think the Trumpsters really do, too. Not good.Only a solipsist would think he knows more than a health expert. The hubris never ends....
And there's more:
The many trump supporters where I live certainly believe it. He says Fauci is dead they would believe it without even checking.
I have a few Facebook friends who definitely seem to believe everything they are told in the alternate universe. All the paranoia, all the crazy.
I've never seen anything like this, and never would I have imagined that this many Americans would be anti-science. Never.
Yup, me too. Friend of mine in Texas says they're OK because they live in Montgomery County and not Harris County (Houston) where the cases are growing and hospitals are reporting full. I said, "You live 35 miles from city center, COVID doesn't recognize county lines!!" And he's a college-educated TrumpTARD.
Well, ideology can infect perfectly intelligent people, ironically.
Got that. My ex, who has a JD and an LLM from U of Texas Law School, is a big Trumper. SMH
Yep. Group pathology -- inexplicable large scale commitment to a deeply troubled man.
The world has seen this before.
Forget Trump. What is happening is WAY bigger than him, and your obsession with him and his followers is distracting you and clouding your judgement, imo.
But I agree completely. I've said many, many times, he's just a symbol, a totem.
This is about the ugliness of Trumpism, and how far we still have to go. But we'll get there.
Interesting definition of draconian that you have, and no, everyone is not lying.Dummass, everyone IS lying. That's why despite draconian measures, everyone wearing masks, distancing, washing, etc., umpteen businesses shut down, going out of business, people are still contracting the bug left and right.What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
Too bad so few of them actually ever get really sick and or die.
You go, Trump baby, go.
I never said I was against masks. I am against slippery slopes.Yes, I agree. The difference is that a car is almost indispensable for most people. Not wearing a mask is at worst a comfort thing for the overwhelming majority of people. You drive right? Do you recognize the wisdom of obligating a person to put their young child in a car seat? It would be easier to just have to make them put a seatbelt on right? But I'm guessing you feel their safety in a car supersedes making stuff easy for you?We risk other people’s lives every time we drive a carScience doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.video.foxnews.com
Really great point. Bravo!If Trump fired an 'expert' that was right in any important way, I'd be concerned. He fired a guy who to my knowledge never got one thing right. It was time for him to go.
If I have bad eyesight or poor hearing, I should not be driving. If I believe I am a high risk individual, I should not go out in public.Just noticed I brought masks into this. That's because I've been in a few posts recently talking about them. It's a strawman this way and I apologize. It was by accident.Yes, I agree. The difference is that a car is almost indispensable for most people. Not wearing a mask is at worst a comfort thing for the overwhelming majority of people. You drive right? Do you recognize the wisdom of obligating a person to put their young child in a car seat? It would be easier to just have to make them put a seatbelt on right? But I'm guessing you feel their safety in a car supersedes making stuff easy for you?We risk other people’s lives every time we drive a carScience doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
The point stands though. If you recognize that driving a car brings with it certain responsibilities as to safety than you recognize that safety can and is an issue when engaging in risky behavior. Especially if you are endangering others.
I knowI never said I was against masks. I am against slippery slopes.Yes, I agree. The difference is that a car is almost indispensable for most people. Not wearing a mask is at worst a comfort thing for the overwhelming majority of people. You drive right? Do you recognize the wisdom of obligating a person to put their young child in a car seat? It would be easier to just have to make them put a seatbelt on right? But I'm guessing you feel their safety in a car supersedes making stuff easy for you?We risk other people’s lives every time we drive a carScience doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
Just noticed I brought masks into this. That's because I've been in a few posts recently talking about them. It's a strawman this way and I apologize. It was by accident.
The point stands though. If you recognize that driving a car brings with it certain responsibilities as to safety than you recognize that safety can and is an issue when engaging in risky behavior. Especially if you are endangering others.
Dumbass with a "b" dumbass.Dummass, everyone IS lying. That's why despite draconian measures, everyone wearing masks, distancing, washing, etc., umpteen businesses shut down, going out of business, people are still contracting the bug left and right.What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
Too bad so few of them actually ever get really sick and or die.
You go, Trump baby, go.
Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.video.foxnews.com
Only a solipsist would think he knows more than a health expert.
The hubris never ends....
You really have no clue what is going on.
Ok, enlighten me. I’m all ears.
Do you believe that someone who gets hit by a car who runs a red light is at fault? I'm guessing not. So why is a high-risk individual obligated to stay indoors so the general public is free to go about their business?If I have bad eyesight or poor hearing, I should not be driving. If I believe I am a high risk individual, I should not go out in public.Just noticed I brought masks into this. That's because I've been in a few posts recently talking about them. It's a strawman this way and I apologize. It was by accident.Yes, I agree. The difference is that a car is almost indispensable for most people. Not wearing a mask is at worst a comfort thing for the overwhelming majority of people. You drive right? Do you recognize the wisdom of obligating a person to put their young child in a car seat? It would be easier to just have to make them put a seatbelt on right? But I'm guessing you feel their safety in a car supersedes making stuff easy for you?We risk other people’s lives every time we drive a carScience doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
The point stands though. If you recognize that driving a car brings with it certain responsibilities as to safety than you recognize that safety can and is an issue when engaging in risky behavior. Especially if you are endangering others.
Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.video.foxnews.com
The whole point is limiting contact.
In all fairness, the shitbags aren't accustom to speaking to large crowds, so.....What are the health experts lying about? What is the truth?
trump doesn't say but retweets that accusation.
People can be wrong about things then when they get more information they can change their views but that's not lying. It's being wrong.
Most were wrong about the virus at first. Only because there wasn't much known about it at first. When more information was known, things changed. Which is what is supposed to happen when new information is known.
Only the stupid people don't change when they get new information.
As far as most people and I can see, trump is the liar here. Not the experts.
The President has the responsibility to paint an optimistic picture whenever he can. He has to save the economy so your commie shitbags can't take over and turn us into Venezuela. Try to keep in mind he is speaking to 350M Americans....not half a dozen halfwits on a message board.
That's a bit cynical, isn't it? Well, the cat is out of the bag so let's not take any measures since it works for me. I have a question for you that you are free to disregard if you don't want to answer it. Do you or your kids come in contact with people in the high-risk groups? Grandparents maybe? These groups have a 7 to 10 percent chance of dying if they catch it. I certainly wouldn't wish this to happen but for me and I assume for you the chance that it does should convince you that taking measures, even painful ones are worth it.Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It WrongNo it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.The path to best managing those goes through science.Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.Dr. Fauci on what sets COVID-19 apart from past outbreaks | Fox News Video
Dr. Anthony Fauci sits down with 'Life, Liberty & Levin' to discuss how coronavirus compares to past outbreaks he's seen during his tenure.video.foxnews.com
The whole point is limiting contact.