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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
They don't know. They hope.
As a CFP do you believe your clients would do better under Trump or Biden? Honest question.
I have no idea. No smart investor would make a projection based on such limited information.

When are you going to point out my lie?
Take an educated guess. You do have some idea. I am sure your clients have asked. Mine have.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
They don't know. They hope.
As a CFP do you believe your clients would do better under Trump or Biden? Honest question.
I have no idea. No smart investor would make a projection based on such limited information.

When are you going to point out my lie?
Take an educated guess. You do have some idea. I am sure your clients have asked. Mine have.
Holy shit, don't tell me you're an advisor. Yikes.

Trump's market, such as it is, has been buoyed by massive increases in federal spending, a NY Fed that poured $1.5 TRILLION into short term lending markets to grease the system, and bond yields that crashed by +/- 70%. Maybe you don't know that.

I don't know what would be done during a Biden administration. So I have no reason to guess. I'm not clairvoyant, nor do I make any attempt to be.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
oh and Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Democrats are a different party now. Biden and Obama were anti same sex marriage and Obama was the deporter in Chief. He would not be leftist enough to win now. Biden has moved way left.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
They don't know. They hope.
As a CFP do you believe your clients would do better under Trump or Biden? Honest question.
I have no idea. No smart investor would make a projection based on such limited information.

When are you going to point out my lie?
Take an educated guess. You do have some idea. I am sure your clients have asked. Mine have.
Holy shit, don't tell me you're an advisor. Yikes.

Trump's market, such as it is, has been buoyed by massive increases in federal spending, a NY Fed that poured $1.5 TRILLION into short term lending markets to grease the system, and bond yields that crashed by +/- 70%. Maybe you don't know that.

I don't know what would be done during a Biden administration. So I have no reason to guess. I'm not clairvoyant, nor do I make any attempt to be.
I work in management consulting. My clients are mid market companies. Stocks and bonds have an inverse relationship. If Biden wins my clients are concerned. Very concerned.
 

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Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom.
WHAT?????
I misspoke. Under Obama the interest rates were at the very bottom. Since people could not invest in bonds or CDs they invested in stocks. He benefitted from historically low rates for 99% of his presidency. FACTS!
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
They don't know. They hope.
As a CFP do you believe your clients would do better under Trump or Biden? Honest question.
I have no idea. No smart investor would make a projection based on such limited information.

When are you going to point out my lie?
Take an educated guess. You do have some idea. I am sure your clients have asked. Mine have.
Holy shit, don't tell me you're an advisor. Yikes.

Trump's market, such as it is, has been buoyed by massive increases in federal spending, a NY Fed that poured $1.5 TRILLION into short term lending markets to grease the system, and bond yields that crashed by +/- 70%. Maybe you don't know that.

I don't know what would be done during a Biden administration. So I have no reason to guess. I'm not clairvoyant, nor do I make any attempt to be.
I work in management consulting. My clients are mid market companies. Stocks and bonds have an inverse relationship. If Biden wins my clients are concerned. Very concerned.
If you're a fiduciary, you should be calming them down. And stocks and bonds don't always have an inverse relationship.

Good gawd. I'm done here. This is depressing.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
They don't know. They hope.
As a CFP do you believe your clients would do better under Trump or Biden? Honest question.
I have no idea. No smart investor would make a projection based on such limited information.

When are you going to point out my lie?
Take an educated guess. You do have some idea. I am sure your clients have asked. Mine have.
Holy shit, don't tell me you're an advisor. Yikes.

Trump's market, such as it is, has been buoyed by massive increases in federal spending, a NY Fed that poured $1.5 TRILLION into short term lending markets to grease the system, and bond yields that crashed by +/- 70%. Maybe you don't know that.

I don't know what would be done during a Biden administration. So I have no reason to guess. I'm not clairvoyant, nor do I make any attempt to be.
I work in management consulting. My clients are mid market companies. Stocks and bonds have an inverse relationship. If Biden wins my clients are concerned. Very concerned.
If you're a fiduciary, you should be calming them down. And stocks and bonds don't always have an inverse relationship.

Good gawd. I'm done here. This is depressing.
Yes they do. Stocks and Bonds have an inverse relationship.

Calming them down? I tell them to hold off on any M&A activities until after the election. Did so before COVID-19 as well. These aren't old school Democrats. These are Leftist/Socialist agenda driven people.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
"Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom."

^^^ Idiot? Liar? Or both?

I say both.

By the way, lyin' idiot ... the last two times interest rates were lowered to the "very bottom" --- occurred under Republican presidents.

 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
"Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom."

^^^ Idiot? Liar? Or both?

I say both.

By the way, lyin' idiot ... the last two times interest rates were lowered to the "very bottom" --- occurred under Republican presidents.

I corrected my statement. He did benefit from lowest rates. Note the rise under Trump until COVID hit.

 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
oh and Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Democrats are a different party now. Biden and Obama were anti same sex marriage and Obama was the deporter in Chief. He would not be leftist enough to win now. Biden has moved way left.
He extended them only for a couple of years because we were in a massive recession. Plus, he used that as a bargaining chip to get Republicans to agree to extending unemployment benefits. Once we got past the recession, he raised taxes.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
"Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom."

^^^ Idiot? Liar? Or both?

I say both.

By the way, lyin' idiot ... the last two times interest rates were lowered to the "very bottom" --- occurred under Republican presidents.

I corrected my statement. He did benefit from lowest rates. Note the rise under Trump until COVID hit.

LOL

Your desperation is noted. They actually started lowering the rate last year, before COVID-19.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
"Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom."

^^^ Idiot? Liar? Or both?

I say both.

By the way, lyin' idiot ... the last two times interest rates were lowered to the "very bottom" --- occurred under Republican presidents.

I corrected my statement. He did benefit from lowest rates. Note the rise under Trump until COVID hit.

LOL

Your desperation is noted. They actually started lowering the rate last year, before COVID-19.
Not materially and it was done so to compete with super low rates in Europe. Now with COVID we are back at Obama levels for LIBOR. You keep harping on the fact that old Democrats are better but this is a completely different Democrat party.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
Clinton benefitted from the rise of the Internet. Obama benefitted from record low rates and Bushs incompetence. What will Biden do to help? He already said he will raise taxes and he is not seen as a business friendly President.
Again, so what? All presidents benefit during good times and struggle in bad times. Even Impeached Trump confessed the economy does better under Democrats...


Btw, the market boomed under both Clinton and Obama and both Clinton and Obama raised taxes. You're going to have to reach even deeper into your brainless rightwingnut bag-o-tricks to come up with a reason why the market would suddenly tank under a Democrat, when the last two had phenomenal market increases on their watch, other than "he will raise taxes."
Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom. That helped home ownership. Clinton benefitted from the .com boom. Rates are already at bottom levels. What will Biden do to help the economy? He is not seen as business friendly, that we agree on.
"Obama lowered interest rates to the very bottom."

^^^ Idiot? Liar? Or both?

I say both.

By the way, lyin' idiot ... the last two times interest rates were lowered to the "very bottom" --- occurred under Republican presidents.

I corrected my statement. He did benefit from lowest rates. Note the rise under Trump until COVID hit.

LOL

Your desperation is noted. They actually started lowering the rate last year, before COVID-19.
Not materially and it was done so to compete with super low rates in Europe. Now with COVID we are back at Obama levels for LIBOR. You keep harping on the fact that old Democrats are better but this is a completely different Democrat party.
It was lowered 20%. That's "material." And it signaled Impeached Trump's economy was already floundering. The other 1.75 point drop did occur after Impeached Trump's recession began.
 

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Being a CFP you probably realize that the market will tank if Biden gets elected, your clients will love that.
Oh? Why would it tank under Biden?

Clinton:
  • DJIA: UP 225%
  • NASDAQ: UP 298%
  • S&P500: UP 209%

Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 149%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%
They don't know. They hope.
As a CFP do you believe your clients would do better under Trump or Biden? Honest question.
I have no idea. No smart investor would make a projection based on such limited information.

When are you going to point out my lie?
Take an educated guess. You do have some idea. I am sure your clients have asked. Mine have.
Holy shit, don't tell me you're an advisor. Yikes.

Trump's market, such as it is, has been buoyed by massive increases in federal spending, a NY Fed that poured $1.5 TRILLION into short term lending markets to grease the system, and bond yields that crashed by +/- 70%. Maybe you don't know that.

I don't know what would be done during a Biden administration. So I have no reason to guess. I'm not clairvoyant, nor do I make any attempt to be.
They ALL spend like drunken sailors
 

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Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
The path to best managing those goes through science.
No it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.
Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It Wrong
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.
So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.
Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.

The whole point is limiting contact.
Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
That's a bit cynical, isn't it? Well, the cat is out of the bag so let's not take any measures since it works for me. I have a question for you that you are free to disregard if you don't want to answer it. Do you or your kids come in contact with people in the high-risk groups? Grandparents maybe? These groups have a 7 to 10 percent chance of dying if they catch it. I certainly wouldn't wish this to happen but for me and I assume for you the chance that it does should convince you that taking measures, even painful ones are worth it.
Yes. My parents and my wife’s mom. Other than that IDK. We see the grandparents on a limited basis. Their friends grand parents and such I cannot speak for that. I believe if you’re under 85 and are not a diabetic or have some condition where your immune system is compromised then you have a 99% chance of not dying. It is not cynical it is real life. Beaches are jammed as are restaurants in MA.
Not what the data shows I'm sorry to say.
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Starting at 50 the mortality rate starts to climb at 70 we are at best at 5 percent mortality
This doesn’t show US? So if you’re under 60 you have a better chance of dying from a car accident

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Yes and ones your over sixty as I think the grandparents you were talking about are it gets deadly and over seventy very deadly.
I had the virus. So did my wife and kids but only I was tested.
The % of deaths to infections is overstated. To be safe keep those 60+ isolated. Or let them
Make that decision.
That's over 68 million people that are at risk but it's more than just age 60+ people. People at high risk are also people with underlying medical conditions that include people with Chronic Kidney Disease, COPD, weakened immune systems from organ transplant or severe diseases, Obesity over 30 BMI, Serious heart disease such as heart failures, or Coronary Artery Disease, Sickle Cell Disease, Type 2 Diabetes, etc. That's over 100 million people that are at high risk. That's nearly 1/3 of the population. Most of this group will limit there participation in the economy regardless of what the government does. What I'm saying is a healthy economy is dependent on the participation of the people and people that are at a high risk of becoming extremely ill or dying of Covid are going to severely limit their participation in the economy.

The only way to fix the economy is to fix the health problem. Regardless of the threats, the claims, and the blame by Trump, neither Covid 19 nor the economy will be fixed before the election.
 
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Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
The path to best managing those goes through science.
No it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.
Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It Wrong
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.
So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.
Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.

The whole point is limiting contact.
Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
That's a bit cynical, isn't it? Well, the cat is out of the bag so let's not take any measures since it works for me. I have a question for you that you are free to disregard if you don't want to answer it. Do you or your kids come in contact with people in the high-risk groups? Grandparents maybe? These groups have a 7 to 10 percent chance of dying if they catch it. I certainly wouldn't wish this to happen but for me and I assume for you the chance that it does should convince you that taking measures, even painful ones are worth it.
Yes. My parents and my wife’s mom. Other than that IDK. We see the grandparents on a limited basis. Their friends grand parents and such I cannot speak for that. I believe if you’re under 85 and are not a diabetic or have some condition where your immune system is compromised then you have a 99% chance of not dying. It is not cynical it is real life. Beaches are jammed as are restaurants in MA.
Not what the data shows I'm sorry to say.
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Starting at 50 the mortality rate starts to climb at 70 we are at best at 5 percent mortality
This doesn’t show US? So if you’re under 60 you have a better chance of dying from a car accident

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Yes and ones your over sixty as I think the grandparents you were talking about are it gets deadly and over seventy very deadly.
I had the virus. So did my wife and kids but only I was tested.
The % of deaths to infections is overstated. To be safe keep those 60+ isolated. Or let them
Make that decision.
That's over 68 million people that at risk but it's more than just age 60+ people. People at high risk are also people with underlying medical conditions that include people with Chronic Kidney Disease, COPD, weakened immune systems from organ transplant or severe diseases, Obesity over 30 BMI, Serious heart disease such as heart failures, or Coronary Artery Disease, Sickle Cell Disease, Type 2 Diabetes, etc. That's over 100 million people that are at high risk. That's nearly 1/3 of the population. Most of this group will limit there participation in the economy regardless of what the government does. What I'm saying is a healthy economy is dependent on the participation of the people and people that are at a high risk of becoming extremely ill or dying of Covid are going to severely limited their participation in economy.

The only way to fix the economy is to fix the health problem. Regardless of the threats, the claims, and the blame by Trump, neither Covid 19 nor the economy will be fixed before the election.
Our country is very unhealthy and COVID-19 shines a spotlight on it. Maybe we should address that first and foremost? What sayeth you?
 

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Science is only 1/3 of the equation. There is also the economic impact and psychological impact
The path to best managing those goes through science.
No it doesn’t. It’s 1/3 of the equation. Science says I should not eat Buffalo Wings with blue cheese as it’s bad for me. Doesn’t mean I wont eat it as having fun and enjoying food is OK sometimes.
Science doesn't just mean health. Economics can be a science to. This might be a good article for you. Don't worry it agrees with your assumed premise that health isn't the only consideration. ‘That’s Crazy’: Reopening Schools Is Possible, but We’re Doing It Wrong
Having fun though is not a good enough reason to risk OTHER people's life though.
I'm guessing you are trying to make a point with this interview right? I'm further guessing it is Fauci saying that children aren't really affected? This is true. On the other hand, we don't know what role exactly children can play in SPREADING the disease.
So have young teachers teach them while mentored by more seasoned teachers via zoom.
Is the infrastructure in place for that? How does that work practically since we are talking about a severe staff shortage in school? It also doesn't address the simple fact that these kids go home to their parents after being in contact with other kids who might be infected. Transmission is just that transmission. It doesn't have to affect a high-risk individual the first time. It still kills those people even if they get it from someone who was in contact with a teacher who got it from a kid.

The whole point is limiting contact.
Kids hang with other kids now. My kids hang in groups of 50+ constantly so that cat is out of the bag. Teachers that refuse to go back go on disability and we hire those that want to teach. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
That's a bit cynical, isn't it? Well, the cat is out of the bag so let's not take any measures since it works for me. I have a question for you that you are free to disregard if you don't want to answer it. Do you or your kids come in contact with people in the high-risk groups? Grandparents maybe? These groups have a 7 to 10 percent chance of dying if they catch it. I certainly wouldn't wish this to happen but for me and I assume for you the chance that it does should convince you that taking measures, even painful ones are worth it.
Yes. My parents and my wife’s mom. Other than that IDK. We see the grandparents on a limited basis. Their friends grand parents and such I cannot speak for that. I believe if you’re under 85 and are not a diabetic or have some condition where your immune system is compromised then you have a 99% chance of not dying. It is not cynical it is real life. Beaches are jammed as are restaurants in MA.
Not what the data shows I'm sorry to say.
View attachment 363017
Starting at 50 the mortality rate starts to climb at 70 we are at best at 5 percent mortality
This doesn’t show US? So if you’re under 60 you have a better chance of dying from a car accident

View attachment 363040
Yes and ones your over sixty as I think the grandparents you were talking about are it gets deadly and over seventy very deadly.
I had the virus. So did my wife and kids but only I was tested.
The % of deaths to infections is overstated. To be safe keep those 60+ isolated. Or let them
Make that decision.
That's over 68 million people that at risk but it's more than just age 60+ people. People at high risk are also people with underlying medical conditions that include people with Chronic Kidney Disease, COPD, weakened immune systems from organ transplant or severe diseases, Obesity over 30 BMI, Serious heart disease such as heart failures, or Coronary Artery Disease, Sickle Cell Disease, Type 2 Diabetes, etc. That's over 100 million people that are at high risk. That's nearly 1/3 of the population. Most of this group will limit there participation in the economy regardless of what the government does. What I'm saying is a healthy economy is dependent on the participation of the people and people that are at a high risk of becoming extremely ill or dying of Covid are going to severely limited their participation in economy.

The only way to fix the economy is to fix the health problem. Regardless of the threats, the claims, and the blame by Trump, neither Covid 19 nor the economy will be fixed before the election.
Our country is very unhealthy and COVID-19 shines a spotlight on it. Maybe we should address that first and foremost? What sayeth you?
If we follow CDC and health dept. recommendations of hand washing, disinfecting high traffic areas, quarantining when sick, and keeping social distancing we will see reductions in many airborne illnesses such colds, flu, pneumonia as well as gastrointestinal infections. Good stuff can come out of all this.
 

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