Even the government itself admitted in the 70's there was a conspiracy to kill JFK.

[daws101]

the methods you suggest are all problematic as they require close proximity to president or risk injury to bystanders. Fellow diners can be poisoned. As far as i know kennedy had no medical procedures during his presidency. Crash of af1 would have killed many. Also any method with a hidden killer would bring on a more balanced inquiry/investigation....not the rush to judgement that happened with oswald. (this goes against idea that oswald wasn't a patsy)

i didnt say "happened to reach out", kgb probably had some ties with cia, some back-channels say, left over from wwii.

Noticed you ignored statement about non-bullet-proof top

the limos top?
Kinda irrelevant as it was not on the limo at the time...

well Candy-corn was saying that its possible use is evidence against a conspiracy

she's right.

 

[dcraelin]

the limos top?
Kinda irrelevant as it was not on the limo at the time...

well Candy-corn was saying that its possible use is evidence against a conspiracy

she's right.

no she not, it was a clear, I think plastic, bubble top. might have deflected first shot a little tho maybe not at all. So its possible use is not evidence there was no conspiracy.

In fact as my conversation with her shows, the fact that Oswald didnt just rush up to the motorcade with his pistol, tends to show he was not a crazed killer like Hinkley or say Sirhan Sirhan even. (tho I have doubts on that one also) and that he wasn't a political fanatic, willing to do something in the name of history.

 

[daws101]

well Candy-corn was saying that its possible use is evidence against a conspiracy

she's right.

no she not, it was a clear, I think plastic, bubble top. might have deflected first shot a little tho maybe not at all. So its possible use is not evidence there was no conspiracy.

In fact as my conversation with her shows, the fact that Oswald didnt just rush up to the motorcade with his pistol, tends to show he was not a crazed killer like Hinkley or say Sirhan Sirhan even. (tho I have doubts on that one also) and that he wasn't a political fanatic, willing to do something in the name of history.

Oswald had been a marine ...crazed killer or political fanatic aside...his training would have taught him how when and where to shoot..
lots of nut jobs are extremely good planing and executing dangerous tasks..
the beltway shooters a while back are a fine example...

 

[candycorn]

We coordinated with elements within countries just as I am suggesting perhaps the KGB might have.

Oh, so the KGB was quarterbacking...happened to reach out to the CIA, found sympathetic agents and pulled it off.
That the CIA and FBI and Warren Commision agree upon; independently.
It's hard to figure out what you're stating and why you're putting together this elaborate multi-national hit where any one of the moving parts can fail and the whole thing comes unraveled. None of it makes sense.

The top was not bullet proof and might not have altered plans at all. So if you think it is so obviously a bad plan, how would you have done it.?

Poisoning the food of the President for one thing. Easy to do, would have access, if you think the actual autopsy was intentionally botched, that would not be an issue. Kennedy was medically under care, having a procedure go poorly with fatal results.Plane crash of AF1Anything other than one with all of the process variables that you're saying took place.

the methods you suggest are all problematic as they require close proximity to president or risk injury to bystanders. fellow diners can be poisoned.

If you're willing to bring down the government....his immediate family is a show stopper? Retarded assumption.

AS far as I know Kennedy had no medical procedures during his presidency.

Medical problems were well documented:
The Medical Ordeals of JFK - Robert Dallek - The Atlantic

Kennedy famously took a massive cocktail just before meeting Premier Kruschev.
Vienna summit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Strange you don't know this.

Crash of AF1 would have killed many.

Again, what does anyone care about this?

Also any method with a hidden killer would bring on a more balanced inquiry/investigation....not the rush to judgement that happened with Oswald. (this goes against idea that Oswald wasn't a patsy)

Speculation. So you get another patsy....

Gee, in your mind was the goal to destroy this nobody Oswald or to kill Kennedy? C'mon dude, at least try.

I didnt say "happened to reach out", KGB probably had some ties with CIA, some back-channels say, left over from WWII.

That the CIA would entertain such a request to off the leader of their nation is batshit crazy. Because until this very day, the KGB would have leverage over the CIA. One letter to the NYT or any other paper and boom, the CIA is before every committee the Congress has.

Even if there were elements of the CIA with, of course the famous "back channels" (where do you conspiracy loons get this shit?), it's patently retarded to think that they would take direction from the KGB.

noticed you ignored statement about non-bullet-proof top

Why comment on it. No clear shot, no shot taken. The CIA wouldn't have put together a plan with so many moving parts dependent upon the weather, bees, birds, high wind, etc.. when so many low-risk other attractive alternatives were present nearly every day of the week in Washington where they could definitely control where the body would be taken, who would see the body, what doctors were on duty at the time of the assassination, etc...

Bring your A-game.

 

[Freewill]

well Candy-corn was saying that its possible use is evidence against a conspiracy

she's right.

no she not, it was a clear, I think plastic, bubble top. might have deflected first shot a little tho maybe not at all. So its possible use is not evidence there was no conspiracy.

In fact as my conversation with her shows, the fact that Oswald didnt just rush up to the motorcade with his pistol, tends to show he was not a crazed killer like Hinkley or say Sirhan Sirhan even. (tho I have doubts on that one also) and that he wasn't a political fanatic, willing to do something in the name of history.

Oswald was a political killer. His murder of Tippets fits exactly what you describe.

Oswald tried to kill long ranges before when he tried to kill General Walker. Oswald's wife testified that Oswald did in fact make the attempt, here is some more information and a transcript of the note Oswald left that day. It appears that the shooting of JFK fits exactly the fashion in which Oswald would operate. Marines use rifles.

American Experience . Oswald's Ghost | PBS

 

[dcraelin]

she's right.

no she not, it was a clear, I think plastic, bubble top. might have deflected first shot a little tho maybe not at all. So its possible use is not evidence there was no conspiracy.

In fact as my conversation with her shows, the fact that Oswald didnt just rush up to the motorcade with his pistol, tends to show he was not a crazed killer like Hinkley or say Sirhan Sirhan even. (tho I have doubts on that one also) and that he wasn't a political fanatic, willing to do something in the name of history.

Oswald was a political killer. His murder of Tippets fits exactly what you describe.

Oswald tried to kill long ranges before when he tried to kill General Walker. Oswald's wife testified that Oswald did in fact make the attempt, here is some more information and a transcript of the note Oswald left that day. It appears that the shooting of JFK fits exactly the fashion in which Oswald would operate. Marines use rifles.

American Experience . Oswald's Ghost | PBS

The supposed attempt to kill Walker is what I believe some call sheep-dipping. It also does not really fit the narrative by the "Oswald did it alone " crowd. Walker hated Kennedy. I believe he was fired by Kennedy. So Oswald wants to kill both Kennedy and his ideological opposite in Walker? Only the CIA and/or KGB could come up with something so convoluted.

The witnesses to the supposed Walker shooting said their were two people, maybe even two cars.

 

[candycorn]

no she not, it was a clear, I think plastic, bubble top. might have deflected first shot a little tho maybe not at all. So its possible use is not evidence there was no conspiracy.

In fact as my conversation with her shows, the fact that Oswald didnt just rush up to the motorcade with his pistol, tends to show he was not a crazed killer like Hinkley or say Sirhan Sirhan even. (tho I have doubts on that one also) and that he wasn't a political fanatic, willing to do something in the name of history.

Oswald was a political killer. His murder of Tippets fits exactly what you describe.

Oswald tried to kill long ranges before when he tried to kill General Walker. Oswald's wife testified that Oswald did in fact make the attempt, here is some more information and a transcript of the note Oswald left that day. It appears that the shooting of JFK fits exactly the fashion in which Oswald would operate. Marines use rifles.

American Experience . Oswald's Ghost | PBS

The supposed attempt to kill Walker is what I believe some call sheep-dipping. It also does not really fit the narrative by the "Oswald did it alone " crowd. Walker hated Kennedy. I believe he was fired by Kennedy. So Oswald wants to kill both Kennedy and his ideological opposite in Walker?

You're purposely mis-characterizing the General and the President's stances. Like many Walker saw any negotiation as a capitulation:

Walker held extreme political views, accusing a variety of Democrats of being "pink" Communist sympathizers and opposing the integration of Southern schools. After Attorney General Robert Kennedy issued a warrant for Walker's arrest, the general declared himself a "political prisoner" of the Kennedy administration.

Only the CIA and/or KGB could come up with something so convoluted.

Another one of your whoppers.

The witnesses to the supposed Walker shooting said their were two people, maybe even two cars.

Quote?

 

[Truthseeker420]

no. only an idiot would line the pockets of charlatans profiting from tragedy.
we did the walking tour.
saw no problem with shooting the president from the "nest".

I consider it a piece of history. A couple guys I talked to said there were trees that have been cut down that were in the line of sight, which seems like a big problem if true. Let alone get off three shots from a bolt action.

 

[dcraelin]

the methods you suggest are all problematic as they require close proximity to president or risk injury to bystanders. fellow diners can be poisoned.

If you're willing to bring down the government....his immediate family is a show stopper? Retarded assumption.

didnt say necessarily his immediate family; but ideologues, even governments may want to avoid collateral damage for many reasons, for their own, or participant's moral reasons.

Medical problems were well documented:
The Medical Ordeals of JFK - Robert Dallek - The Atlantic
Kennedy famously took a massive cocktail just before meeting Premier Kruschev.
Vienna summit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Strange you don't know this

I knew he had back problems and addisons, but when you say procedure I though surgery,....drugs..would be same problem with poisoning...proximity mainly

Gee, in your mind was the goal to destroy this nobody Oswald or to kill Kennedy? C'mon dude, at least try.

your just babbling here

I didnt say "happened to reach out", KGB probably had some ties with CIA, some back-channels say, left over from WWII.

That the CIA would entertain such a request to off the leader of their nation is batshit crazy. Because until this very day, the KGB would have leverage over the CIA. One letter to the NYT or any other paper and boom, the CIA is before every committee the Congress has. Even if there were elements of the CIA with, of course the famous "back channels" (where do you conspiracy loons get this shit?), it's patently retarded to think that they would take direction from the KGB.

no...its you thats batshit crazy for thinking it absolutely impossible. "one letter to the NYT"...lol.....tools like you would just label it "batshit crazy"............Kennedy wanted to shut down CIA;your putting words in my mouth and then calling it "patently retarded", Im speculatively assuming elements within the CIA would act in their own parallel interests, not "take direction".

noticed you ignored statement about non-bullet-proof top

Why comment on it. No clear shot, no shot taken. The CIA wouldn't have put together a plan with so many moving parts dependent upon the weather, bees, birds, high wind, etc.. when so many low-risk other attractive alternatives were present nearly every day of the week in Washington where they could definitely control where the body would be taken, who would see the body, what doctors were on duty at the time of the assassination, etc...Bring your A-game.

...what happens with no clear shot depends...some have said their were other attempts canceled....but maybe you take your chances...."bees, birds"..lol Maybe the CIA wouldnt want anything to happen in Washington because would really get the conspiracy theorists talking...I dont know..you assuming the CIA thinks like you.

Oswald was a political killer. His murder of Tippets fits exactly what you describe.
Oswald tried to kill long ranges before when he tried to kill General Walker. Oswald's wife testified that Oswald did in fact make the attempt, here is some more information and a transcript of the note Oswald left that day. It appears that the shooting of JFK fits exactly the fashion in which Oswald would operate. Marines use rifles.
American Experience . Oswald's Ghost | PBS

The supposed attempt to kill Walker is what I believe some call sheep-dipping. It also does not really fit the narrative by the "Oswald did it alone " crowd. Walker hated Kennedy. I believe he was fired by Kennedy. So Oswald wants to kill both Kennedy and his ideological opposite in Walker?

You're purposely mis-characterizing the General and the President's stances. Like many Walker saw any negotiation as a capitulation:

seem to have lost your quote here but other readers should look back, it actually SUPPORTS MY view and you use it?????I think you may be losing it.

The witnesses to the supposed Walker shooting said their were two people, maybe even two cars.

Quote?[/QUOTE]
Quote? im suposed to quote somebody???? look it up, I did and boy saw two people and two cars.

 

[daws101]

just to muddy the waters some more : Richard Paul Pavlick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Richard Paul Pavlick (February 13, 1887 – November 11, 1975) was a retired postal worker from New Hampshire who stalked U.S. President-Elect John F. Kennedy, with the intent of assassinating him. On December 11, 1960 in Palm Beach, Florida, Pavlick positioned himself to carry out the assassination by blowing up Kennedy and himself with dynamite, but delayed the attempt because Kennedy was with his wife and children. He was then arrested before he was able to stage another attempt.

 

[candycorn]

the methods you suggest are all problematic as they require close proximity to president or risk injury to bystanders. fellow diners can be poisoned.

If you're willing to bring down the government....his immediate family is a show stopper? Retarded assumption.

didnt say necessarily his immediate family; but ideologues, even governments may want to avoid collateral damage for many reasons, for their own, or participant's moral reasons.

I see, so blowing off hubby's head in broad daylight are within this "code"? Retarded.

I knew he had back problems and addisons, but when you say procedure I though surgery,....drugs..would be same problem with poisoning...proximity mainly

When you give an injection of steroids, usually those in the proximity do not share the benefits.

no...its you thats batshit crazy for thinking it absolutely impossible.

The scenario you and Rimjob layed out is impossible. Sorry but it is. Do I think Oswald worked for the CIA at one point. Yes. Do I think he was influenced by a foreign power. Perhaps--I wouldn't bet the farm on it but I would bet a small amount with confidence. Did the KGB direct the CIA to do anything? No. What is it you say now..."parallel interests"...when you have to create euphemisms you're probably on thin ice.

"one letter to the NYT"...lol.....tools like you would just label it "batshit crazy"............

Yeah intel services never record people to blackmail them later. Probably against that same retarded code you cited.

Kennedy wanted to shut down CIA

Really? Oh okay.

;your putting words in my mouth and then calling it "patently retarded", Im speculatively assuming elements within the CIA would act in their own parallel interests, not "take direction".
...what happens with no clear shot depends...some have said their were other attempts canceled....but maybe you take your chances...."bees, birds"..lol

Least of your worries. Maybe Oswald's boss asks him to go get some sandwiches or something instead of being in the building and being the perfect patsy or perhaps there is a medical emergency in the building where fire and police show up unexpectedly... The point that you keep purposely glossing over is that if the CIA wanted to off a President and the CIA lives 20 miles away, they aren't going to opt to do it in Dallas where they control very little of the environment. I'm sorry but it's retarded to think so.

Maybe the CIA wouldnt want anything to happen in Washington because would really get the conspiracy theorists talking...

Yeah, having it in Dallas has created a shortage of morons and their conspiracies.

I dont know..you assuming the CIA thinks like you.

Logically. Yes, I assume that our intel services don't add shit to their inbox and make their already difficult operations more complex by doing so.

The witnesses to the supposed Walker shooting said their were two people, maybe even two cars.

Quote?[/QUOTE]
Quote? im suposed to quote somebody???? look it up, I did and boy saw two people and two cars.[/QUOTE]
When you state someone saw something...please cite the person saying that much. Like earlier you said there were attempts earlier but didn't cite anyone.

Yes, cite the person(s) who saw two people and two cars on the "alleged" assassination attempt.

 

[dcraelin]

If you're willing to bring down the government....his immediate family is a show stopper? Retarded assumption.

didnt say necessarily his immediate family; but ideologues, even governments may want to avoid collateral damage for many reasons, for their own, or participant's moral reasons.

I see, so blowing off hubby's head in broad daylight are within this "code"? Retarded.

better than being dead.......
and quit throwing around the names......it just makes you look retarded........plenty of people....believe similar things and aren't retarded

When you give an injection of steroids, usually those in the proximity do not share the benefits.

When I said proximity I meant that perpetrators would have to have
close proximity

The scenario you and Rimjob layed out is impossible. Sorry but it is. Do I think Oswald worked for the CIA at one point. Yes. Do I think he was influenced by a foreign power. Perhaps--I wouldn't bet the farm on it but I would bet a small amount with confidence. Did the KGB direct the CIA to do anything? No. What is it you say now..."parallel interests"...when you have to create euphemisms you're probably on thin ice.

You're not sorry...and I wouldn't care if you where....I repeat, I DIDN'T SAY DIRECT......."parallel interests" is not a euphemism.

Yeah intel services never record people to blackmail them later. Probably against that same retarded code you cited.

What?!!!! I have no idea what your talking about here.........

Really? Oh okay.
Least of your worries. Maybe Oswald's boss asks him to go get some sandwiches or something instead of being in the building and being the perfect patsy or perhaps there is a medical emergency in the building where fire and police show up unexpectedly... The point that you keep purposely glossing over is that if the CIA wanted to off a President and the CIA lives 20 miles away, they aren't going to opt to do it in Dallas where they control very little of the environment. I'm sorry but it's retarded to think so.

program apparently dropping paragraphs responded to....but so something goes wrong....operation get canceled...so what?...they try again.

Yeah, having it in Dallas has created a shortage of morons and their conspiracies.

Prob higher if in DC...tools like you can say...CIA would've rather done it in DC.

I dont know..you assuming the CIA thinks like you.

Logically. Yes, I assume that our intel services don't add shit to their inbox and make their already difficult operations more complex by doing so.

Their whole base of operations is overseas..they're used to doing things/operations away from home base....they dont want to shit in their own pool

Quote? im suposed to quote somebody???? look it up, I did and boy saw two people and two cars.

When you state someone saw something...please cite the person saying that much. Like earlier you said there were attempts earlier but didn't cite anyone. Yes, cite the person(s) who saw two people and two cars on the "alleged" assassination attempt.

I'm not writing a damn term paper

 

[dcraelin]

just to muddy the waters some more : Richard Paul Pavlick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Richard Paul Pavlick (February 13, 1887 – November 11, 1975) was a retired postal worker from New Hampshire who stalked U.S. President-Elect John F. Kennedy, with the intent of assassinating him. On December 11, 1960 in Palm Beach, Florida, Pavlick positioned himself to carry out the assassination by blowing up Kennedy and himself with dynamite, but delayed the attempt because Kennedy was with his wife and children. He was then arrested before he was able to stage another attempt.

thank you, shows that even killers can be squeamish about collateral damage.

 

[candycorn]

didnt say necessarily his immediate family; but ideologues, even governments may want to avoid collateral damage for many reasons, for their own, or participant's moral reasons.

I see, so blowing off hubby's head in broad daylight are within this "code"? Retarded.

better than being dead.......
and quit throwing around the names......it just makes you look retarded........plenty of people....believe similar things and aren't retarded

Not calling you retarded. Calling your logic retarded.

When I said proximity I meant that perpetrators would have to have
close proximity

Assassins usually do. The intelligence services who have agents in other countries are well schooled in having someone in a business. Having an agent pose as a doctor or nurse or whomever would not be much of a stretch compared to what you have the CIA doing.

You're not sorry...and I wouldn't care if you where....I repeat, I DIDN'T SAY DIRECT......."parallel interests" is not a euphemism.

What?!!!! I have no idea what your talking about here.........

program apparently dropping paragraphs responded to....but so something goes wrong....operation get canceled...so what?...they try again.

Uhh...

When you have a conspiracy in place, it can be discovered at any time so it is a pretty important aspect of any conspiracy that it takes place at the appointed time. Which, again, is why you don't do such a thing in Dallas of all places. It is, forgive me, retarded to think that a hit would be carried out where there is no control of the after effects vs. having a much greater degree of control. Just for one itty-bitty example, if it does go bad, there are far more safe houses around VA than Dallas.

Their whole base of operations is overseas..they're used to doing things/operations away from home base....they dont want to shit in their own pool

Probably the dumbest thing ever said on this thread.

Quote? im suposed to quote somebody???? look it up, I did and boy saw two people and two cars.

When you state someone saw something...please cite the person saying that much. Like earlier you said there were attempts earlier but didn't cite anyone. Yes, cite the person(s) who saw two people and two cars on the "alleged" assassination attempt.

I'm not writing a damn term paper

No kidding; they make sense.

 

[Bfgrn]

Your turn.

You are kind of all over the place. You initially accepted that the back wound was shallow, and that the three shots could be explained. You said, the first created the shallow back wound, the second hit Connolly and the third hit Kennedy. But one of the bullets missed the limousine. So now you are stuck with the single bullet theory, Connolly not reacting to his wounds, and an entrance wound in the President's neck that you can't explain.

For Oswald to be the LONE assassin, the single bullet theory MUST work. But it doesn't work. From a ballistic standpoint; the initial entry wound in the President's BACK is lower than the exit wound in the president throat. And it doesn't work neurologically. The only way Governor Connolly's reaction to his grave, massive, invasive and sudden wounds could be delayed, as the Warren Report claims is if Connolly was a quadriplegic or so heavily sedated that it would put him in a semi-comatose state.

The evidence that the last two shots were fired almost simultaneously comes from a multitude of witnesses, from Secret Service agents, police, media members, politicians, and bystanders that were there.

 

[Freewill]

You are kind of all over the place. You initially accepted that the back wound was shallow, and that the three shots could be explained. You said, the first created the shallow back wound, the second hit Connolly and the third hit Kennedy. But one of the bullets missed the limousine. So now you are stuck with the single bullet theory, Connolly not reacting to his wounds, and an entrance wound in the President's neck that you can't explain.

For Oswald to be the LONE assassin, the single bullet theory MUST work. But it doesn't work. From a ballistic standpoint; the initial entry wound in the President's BACK is lower than the exit wound in the president throat. And it doesn't work neurologically. The only way Governor Connolly's reaction to his grave, massive, invasive and sudden wounds could be delayed, as the Warren Report claims is if Connolly was a quadriplegic or so heavily sedated that it would put him in a semi-comatose state.

The evidence that the last two shots were fired almost simultaneously comes from a multitude of witnesses, from Secret Service agents, police, media members, politicians, and bystanders that were there.

You are speculating on everything even the bullet wound. It has been shown that the SBT is visable. Now explain how a high powered rifle leaves a shallow wound.

I provided you with the information you ignore it so why continue to bother? The VAST, OVERWELMING, the MAJORITY of those there that day, even those in the motorcade ALL testify that there were three shots, not four. THREE

THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY

 

[Bfgrn]

NOTE: I fixed the posts. From now on just hit the "Quote" button, then type your reply.

You are kind of all over the place. You initially accepted that the back wound was shallow, and that the three shots could be explained. You said, the first created the shallow back wound, the second hit Connolly and the third hit Kennedy. But one of the bullets missed the limousine. So now you are stuck with the single bullet theory, Connolly not reacting to his wounds, and an entrance wound in the President's neck that you can't explain.

For Oswald to be the LONE assassin, the single bullet theory MUST work. But it doesn't work. From a ballistic standpoint; the initial entry wound in the President's BACK is lower than the exit wound in the president throat. And it doesn't work neurologically. The only way Governor Connolly's reaction to his grave, massive, invasive and sudden wounds could be delayed, as the Warren Report claims is if Connolly was a quadriplegic or so heavily sedated that it would put him in a semi-comatose state.

The evidence that the last two shots were fired almost simultaneously comes from a multitude of witnesses, from Secret Service agents, police, media members, politicians, and bystanders that were there.

You are speculating on everything even the bullet wound. It has been shown that the SBT is visable. Now explain how a high powered rifle leaves a shallow wound.

I provided you with the information you ignore it so why continue to bother? The VAST, OVERWELMING, the MAJORITY of those there that day, even those in the motorcade ALL testify that there were three shots, not four. THREE

Three shots, FINE. But the last two were fired almost simultaneously, which is IMPOSSIBLE with a bolt action rifle. PLUS, one shot missed the limousine. So NOW you have to create all the wounds including an entrance wound in the President's neck WITH TWO BULLETS.

The Sibert and O’Neill Report

Two FBI agents, James Sibert and Francis O’Neill, attended the autopsy of President Kennedy. Their report is presented below, along with a memorandum in which they confirmed several of their observations.

The Significance of the Report

The Sibert and O’Neill Report is significant to the study of President Kennedy’s assassination in several ways:

• it is the only contemporaneous eye–witness account of events at the autopsy;

• it strongly contradicted certain elements of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald;

• it illustrated the treatment of evidence by the Warren Commission and various investigative agencies;

• and it helped to generate an influential, though highly implausible, conspiracy theory involving the surgical alteration of President Kennedy’s body.

The Single–Bullet Theory

The FBI agents’ account contains several observations about the location, angle and depth of President Kennedy’s back wound which, if accurate, would invalidate the Warren Commission’s single–bullet theory:

• The bullet wound “was below the shoulders and two inches to the right of the middle line of the spinal column,” a location consistent with the bullet holes in the president’s shirt and jacket but too low to be consistent with the single–bullet theory.

• “This opening was probed by Dr. HUMES with the finger, at which time it was determined that the trajectory of the missile entering at this point had entered at a downward position of 45 to 60 degrees.” A bullet entering at a downward angle could not have come out through the throat, as the single–bullet theory demanded.

• “Further probing determined that the distance travelled by this missile was a short distance inasmuch as the end of the opening could be felt with the finger.” It became known several years later that the pathologists had been forbidden, presumably by one or more of their military superiors, to dissect the back and throat wounds (see Clay Shaw Trial Transcript, pp.115–8). Such dissection would almost certainly have confirmed or denied the possibility that a single bullet had passed through President Kennedy’s body and had caused both wounds.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

A repeat of an occasionally needed reminder: The TITLE of this dishonest thread remains false.

It is as stupid and bogus as 9/11 Rimjob is.

 

[dcraelin]

Their whole base of operations is overseas..they're used to doing things/operations away from home base....they dont want to shit in their own pool

Probably the dumbest thing ever said on this thread.

really?!, and yet you say, "The intelligence services who have agents in other countries are well schooled in having someone in a business. Having an agent pose as a doctor or nurse or whomever would not be much of a stretch compared to what you have the CIA doing."....you think setting up a doctor in fake business so he could poison the president is easier than the CIA setting up Oswald as a shooter???......THAT may be the dumbest thing ever said on this thread.

 

[7forever]

You are speculating on everything even the bullet wound. It has been shown that the SBT is visable. Now explain how a high powered rifle leaves a shallow wound.

I provided you with the information you ignore it so why continue to bother? The VAST, OVERWELMING, the MAJORITY of those there that day, even those in the motorcade ALL testify that there were three shots, not four. THREE

THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY

Connally said he was hit by another bullet. How could he be wrong when the bullets were flying past his head? It's time for you to WAKE UP.