Former CIA chief's new book claims Oswald was KGB agent, killed JFK on order from then-Soviet leader Khrushchev

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
I get it, you believe the cover story. Don't feel bad, many people still think 911 was caused by Muslims who lived in caves. :D
Whatever, Renfield.
You are entitled to your opinion. It could be worse, you could believe a Jesus is going to come back to save you. :auiqs.jpg:
This is not about my opinion. It’s about evidence.
You are not following the evidence really well then if you think Oswald was a lone gunman nut.
 

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I would find it hard to believe what a former CIA chief says. Especially as many believe the CIA killed JFK. He could have just wrote this book to throw people off. They do those kinds of things.

If the CIA wanted to get rid of JFK, all they had to do was leak those photos they had of him fucking Marilyn Monroe.

As JR Ewing once said, "Never get caught in bed with a live man or a dead woman."
 

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The JFK hit was likely a quasi rougue CIA job led by former CIA Director Allen Dulles, who JFK fired. BTW how did a description of Oswald make it to police dispatch about 15 minutes after the shooting when nobody saw Oswald? Even if somebody saw a figure hunched over high up on that floor it would be impossible to make an ID to form a description. The reason officer JD Tippit stopped Oswald walking down the street was based on a description of the shooter. Oh and yeah Allen Dulles was on the Warren Commission.
 

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I would find it hard to believe what a former CIA chief says. Especially as many believe the CIA killed JFK. He could have just wrote this book to throw people off. They do those kinds of things.

If the CIA wanted to get rid of JFK, all they had to do was leak those photos they had of him fucking Marilyn Monroe.

As JR Ewing once said, "Never get caught in bed with a live man or a dead woman."
Hoover was at the FBI not the CIA. You seem to be confused.
 

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I would find it hard to believe what a former CIA chief says. Especially as many believe the CIA killed JFK. He could have just wrote this book to throw people off. They do those kinds of things.

Roger Stone has a great book out about the Kennedy Assassination. Johnson knew about it. One of his mistresses asked him if he had it done. He told her, "No. The oil men had Kennedy killed."

When she was asked Jackie said she thought Johnson had her husband killed.

Nixon also thought Johnson had something to do with it. Nixon said he wanted to be POTUS but he wouldn't kill someone, like Johnson did, to get there.

Loads of people saw things that day and many said Oswald wasn't the only shooter.

KGB?? I doubt that.
 

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I posted a thread on this a few days ago......it was moved to conspiracy theories. hehheh
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
My Dad called the Oswald Assassination. When the news first showed Oswald being escorted out, my Dad said, "Come watch this guy get shot!"
 

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The Warren report proved that you do not need to fool all the people all the time....just enough to prevent them from rising up and demanding the truth or your head.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
My Dad called the Oswald Assassination. When the news first showed Oswald being escorted out, my Dad said, "Come watch this guy get shot!"
One big quetion....if Oswald wanted to be a hero as the book claims....why did he deny doing it.....claiming he was a patsy....would any wannabe hero claim to be just a patsy and ask for certain unamed people to come to his aid?

Thus any credible motive for Oswald killing JFK is still not evident.

So why was the book written?.....to make money and perhaps to take the heat off the Cia and or others.

Not even to menion if Oswald was a known russian agent....it would have been known back then....why did intelligence people wait all these years to disclose that.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
I get it, you believe the cover story. Don't feel bad, many people still think 911 was caused by Muslims who lived in caves. :D
Whatever, Renfield.
You are entitled to your opinion. It could be worse, you could believe a Jesus is going to come back to save you. :auiqs.jpg:
This is not about my opinion. It’s about evidence.
You are not following the evidence really well then if you think Oswald was a lone gunman nut.
No, it’s because I am following evidence. The icing on the cake was Oswald’s attempted assassination of Edwin Walker several months earlier — with the same rifle.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
My Dad called the Oswald Assassination. When the news first showed Oswald being escorted out, my Dad said, "Come watch this guy get shot!"
One big quetion....if Oswald wanted to be a hero as the book claims....why did he deny doing it.....claiming he was a patsy....would any wannabe hero claim to be just a patsy and ask for certain unamed people to come to his aid?

Thus any credible motive for Oswald killing JFK is still not evident.

So why was the book written?.....to make money and perhaps to take the heat off the Cia and or others.

Not even to menion if Oswald was a known russian agent....it would have been known back then....why did intelligence people wait all these years to disclose that.
It’s merely yet another disinformation effort by the establishment, to deceive the people.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
My Dad called the Oswald Assassination. When the news first showed Oswald being escorted out, my Dad said, "Come watch this guy get shot!"
One big quetion....if Oswald wanted to be a hero as the book claims....why did he deny doing it.....claiming he was a patsy....would any wannabe hero claim to be just a patsy and ask for certain unamed people to come to his aid?

Thus any credible motive for Oswald killing JFK is still not evident.

So why was the book written?.....to make money and perhaps to take the heat off the Cia and or others.

Not even to menion if Oswald was a known russian agent....it would have been known back then....why did intelligence people wait all these years to disclose that.
He denied it because he probably didn’t want to go to jail and he had a bent against authority.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
I get it, you believe the cover story. Don't feel bad, many people still think 911 was caused by Muslims who lived in caves. :D
Whatever, Renfield.
You are entitled to your opinion. It could be worse, you could believe a Jesus is going to come back to save you. :auiqs.jpg:
he is.
This is not about my opinion. It’s about evidence.
You are not following the evidence really well then if you think Oswald was a lone gunman nut.
Yes in fact he is.

The evidence is overwhelming that Oswald did it. No evidence supports another shooter or a conspiracy. The conspiracy theories have all been disproven.

Many have attacked the warren Commission report but all unsuccessfully. The fact is the commission conducted one of the mmost comprehensive and thourough investigations into a crime in US history and has never been succesffully chhallenged.

The problem is that so many people selectively hear ONLY the conspiracy nuts and refuse to perform due dilligance and study the WC. Paying atttention to one side of a contraversy is not intelligent.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
My Dad called the Oswald Assassination. When the news first showed Oswald being escorted out, my Dad said, "Come watch this guy get shot!"
One big quetion....if Oswald wanted to be a hero as the book claims....why did he deny doing it.....claiming he was a patsy....would any wannabe hero claim to be just a patsy and ask for certain unamed people to come to his aid?

Thus any credible motive for Oswald killing JFK is still not evident.

So why was the book written?.....to make money and perhaps to take the heat off the Cia and or others.

Not even to menion if Oswald was a known russian agent....it would have been known back then....why did intelligence people wait all these years to disclose that.
The book claims he wanted to be a hero in the USSR not here.
 

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The Warren report proved that you do not need to fool all the people all the time....just enough to prevent them from rising up and demanding the truth or your head.
The Warren report proved Oswald did it. That is based on evidence. Although the WC tried hard to unearth any evidence of other conspirators they found no such evidence and neither has anyyone else.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
It was not the most secure building at all. Ruby and others were in fact openly allowed in without challenge which he often exploited by asking cops to patronize his club. It was easy for him to do what he did.
 

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The JFK hit was likely a quasi rougue CIA job led by former CIA Director Allen Dulles, who JFK fired. BTW how did a description of Oswald make it to police dispatch about 15 minutes after the shooting when nobody saw Oswald? Even if somebody saw a figure hunched over high up on that floor it would be impossible to make an ID to form a description. The reason officer JD Tippit stopped Oswald walking down the street was based on a description of the shooter. Oh and yeah Allen Dulles was on the Warren Commission.
Hockams razor clewwarly whows why all that is a fallacy.

It was easy to get a description of oswald from co workers when he became a person of interest. That would have happened very quickly when it was established that he was the ONLY employee who disapppeared and was unaccounted for. Tippet was not the only officer who stopped someone matching that description. At least a dozen cops in Dallas stopped men matching the description. Tippet simply had the bad luck to actually stop Oswald.
 

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