Former CIA chief's new book claims Oswald was KGB agent, killed JFK on order from then-Soviet leader Khrushchev

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It's physically IMPOSSIBLE for Oswald to have fired the shot that exited the back of Kennedys head.

The CIA is truly evil
The crater wound was in the back. Both impact shots came from behind. It’s in the Warren Report. Conspiracy nuts like to ignore that.
His head up and to the right. It completely contravenes the most basic laws of physics and reality to suppose that shot was fired from behind him
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
I get it, you believe the cover story. Don't feel bad, many people still think 911 was caused by Muslims who lived in caves. :D
Whatever, Renfield.
You are entitled to your opinion. It could be worse, you could believe a Jesus is going to come back to save you. :auiqs.jpg:
This is not about my opinion. It’s about evidence.
You are not following the evidence really well then if you think Oswald was a lone gunman nut.
No, it’s because I am following evidence. The icing on the cake was Oswald’s attempted assassination of Edwin Walker several months earlier — with the same rifle.
The problem with that is that there is no concrete proof he did it.....most likely they just made up that charge to make him seem like a unsavoury character......but it does make sense that oswald a liberal leftwinger would go after a rightwinger....but JFK was a liberal....so what was Oswalds motive to shoot JFK?
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
It was not the most secure building at all. Ruby and others were in fact openly allowed in without challenge which he often exploited by asking cops to patronize his club. It was easy for him to do what he did.
No. Not while Oswald was in custody. The place was crawling with LEOs. Particularly the day he was to be transferred. They allowed a well known mobster with a firearm, access to Oswald. It was done on purpose.

This fact is but one of hundreds that prove a conspiracy in the assassination.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
My Dad called the Oswald Assassination. When the news first showed Oswald being escorted out, my Dad said, "Come watch this guy get shot!"
He must have had a good understanding of the corrupt nature of government even back then, when most Americans still trusted their government.
 

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It's physically IMPOSSIBLE for Oswald to have fired the shot that exited the back of Kennedys head.

The CIA is truly evil
The crater wound was in the back. Both impact shots came from behind. It’s in the Warren Report. Conspiracy nuts like to ignore that.
His head up and to the right. It completely contravenes the most basic laws of physics and reality to suppose that shot was fired from behind him
He was bent hard forward when that shot hit. The backwards action was recoil. What’s more and obvious is all of the brain tissue flying forward.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
I get it, you believe the cover story. Don't feel bad, many people still think 911 was caused by Muslims who lived in caves. :D
Whatever, Renfield.
You are entitled to your opinion. It could be worse, you could believe a Jesus is going to come back to save you. :auiqs.jpg:
This is not about my opinion. It’s about evidence.
You are not following the evidence really well then if you think Oswald was a lone gunman nut.
No, it’s because I am following evidence. The icing on the cake was Oswald’s attempted assassination of Edwin Walker several months earlier — with the same rifle.
The problem with that is that there is no concrete proof he did it.....most likely they just made up that charge to make him seem like a unsavoury character......but it does make sense that oswald a liberal leftwinger would go after a rightwinger....but JFK was a liberal....so what was Oswalds motive to shoot JFK?
The ballistics and all other circumstances point to Oswald and no one else. That’s pretty definitive.
Oswald’s motive was attention.
 

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Here’s a good video that explains things in incontrovertible detail.
Add to this the ballistics match on the firearm used in the attempted assassination of Edwin Walker several months earlier...

 

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So... like the official story? Bombshell..
 

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Interesting tale.

Anyway, beats reading chattering old women going on about getting a vaccine.



A newly released book written by former CIA chief R. James Woolsey claims that Lee Harvey Oswald was a Russian KGB agent who killed then-President John F. Kennedy on orders from Russian Premier Nikita Khrushchev.


Woolsey headed the CIA from 1993 to 1995. He co-authored the book, "Operation Dragon," with Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, who served as acting chief of Romania's spy service under President Nicolae Ceausescu.


Oswald defected to Russia in 1959 and returned to the United States in 1961. In November 1963, he assassinated Kennedy in Dallas. A nightclub owner in Dallas killed Oswald two days later.


Woolsey and Pacepa cite the Warren Commission Report, published in 1964, as the source of their information about Oswald, his relationship with Russia, and Kennedy's death. The 24-volume report includes testimony from 550 witnesses. The two men say the report was heavily "codified" and too difficult for many people to understand.


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Further, the authors say, the Soviets changed their mind about assassinating Kennedy in mid-1963, but Oswald would not be deterred from the plan. The book also cites a letter Oswald wrote to the Soviety Embassy in July 1963 seeking separate visas for himself, his wife, and his daughters.


The authors say Oswald wanted to get his family back to Russia before he killed Kennedy.


Oswald was a loser and nut case. No good for an assassin. Kruschev and Kennedy got along well after missile crisis of 1962.
 

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It's physically IMPOSSIBLE for Oswald to have fired the shot that exited the back of Kennedys head.

The CIA is truly evil
The crater wound was in the back. Both impact shots came from behind. It’s in the Warren Report. Conspiracy nuts like to ignore that.
His head up and to the right. It completely contravenes the most basic laws of physics and reality to suppose that shot was fired from behind him
He was bent hard forward when that shot hit. The backwards action was recoil. What’s more and obvious is all of the brain tissue flying forward.
What? Jackie was scrambling on the back of the limo to get parts of his scull. How does that happen if the round hit the back of his scull?
 

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It's probably the wrong forum but common sense will tell you that Oswald was welcomed back into the U.S. after renouncing his citizenship and seeking asylum in Russia during the coldest part of the cold war. The Warren commission wasn't about getting to the truth about the JFK assassination, it was about covering the asses of the CIA.
 

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Here’s a good video that explains things in incontrovertible detail.
Add to this the ballistics match on the firearm used in the attempted assassination of Edwin Walker several months earlier...

 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
Ruby was a mobster with some rank--------He would not have killed Oswald unless the mob ordered it and the mob is not known to do things on impulse. The only reason to kill Oswald as he was in custody and likely to talk about who put him up to it, would be to silence him. So the real question is why did the mob have Oswald killed. What were they afraid of Oswald saying.

It is known that oswald went to Mexico before the assassination to meet with 'russians' which could have been the cia playing their games as well.
 

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It's physically IMPOSSIBLE for Oswald to have fired the shot that exited the back of Kennedys head.

The CIA is truly evil
The crater wound was in the back. Both impact shots came from behind. It’s in the Warren Report. Conspiracy nuts like to ignore that.
His head up and to the right. It completely contravenes the most basic laws of physics and reality to suppose that shot was fired from behind him
No it does not,

The shot came from above and behind. His movement was not caused by the bullet.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
It was not the most secure building at all. Ruby and others were in fact openly allowed in without challenge which he often exploited by asking cops to patronize his club. It was easy for him to do what he did.
No. Not while Oswald was in custody. The place was crawling with LEOs. Particularly the day he was to be transferred. They allowed a well known mobster with a firearm, access to Oswald. It was done on purpose.

This fact is but one of hundreds that prove a conspiracy in the assassination.
He was not a mobster and he was not allowed. They slipped up and no their security was not as you claim. They had mobs of reporters and other onlookers.

Your facrs are false. There are no facts whicvh prove it only myths such as the one you just made up.
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
Ruby was a mobster with some rank--------He would not have killed Oswald unless the mob ordered it and the mob is not known to do things on impulse. The only reason to kill Oswald as he was in custody and likely to talk about who put him up to it, would be to silence him. So the real question is why did the mob have Oswald killed. What were they afraid of Oswald saying.

It is known that oswald went to Mexico before the assassination to meet with 'russians' which could have been the cia playing their games as well.
The CIA may have paid the mob to take out Oswald:

One document from 1975 detailed how in the early days of Kennedy's presidency the CIA offered $150,000 to Italian-American mob boss Sam Giancana to organize the killing of Cuban leader Fidel Castro.

 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
It was not the most secure building at all. Ruby and others were in fact openly allowed in without challenge which he often exploited by asking cops to patronize his club. It was easy for him to do what he did.
No. Not while Oswald was in custody. The place was crawling with LEOs. Particularly the day he was to be transferred. They allowed a well known mobster with a firearm, access to Oswald. It was done on purpose.

This fact is but one of hundreds that prove a conspiracy in the assassination.
He was not a mobster and he was not allowed. They slipped up and no their security was not as you claim. They had mobs of reporters and other onlookers.

Your facrs are false. There are no facts whicvh prove it only myths such as the one you just made up.
Oh brother you dupe. Ruby was clearly a mobster fool. Saying he wasn’t merely proves you’re a CIA liar.

Yeah they screwed up security at the Dallas PD on purpose. Just like they somehow failed to know the only US Marine to EVER defect to the USSR and return without a hiccup, who then publicly demonstrated for Castro, just happened to work in the TSBD building when JFK’s open limousine made a very slow tight left turn in front of that building, where no security also existed.

FOOL!!!
 

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Oswald denied killing Kennedy, calling himself a "patsy." Oswald was killed in police custody the next day by nightclub owner Jack Ruby, igniting conspiratorial suspicions that have never gone away.
He was killed by ruby two days later, not the next day. Ruby had no idea that the Oswald transfer would be delayed. Ruby was at home in his underwear when Oswald was scheduled to be transferred. Ruby went to western union to wire money to one of his strippers some time later. Being in the proximity of the police station, ruby went across the street to the station shortly before Oswald was being transferred. It was a total fluke that ruby was there at that moment. No one could have scheduled or predicted that.
Oswald alone. Get over it.
That’s hard to believe. The Dallas cop shop was the most secure building in America, while Oswald was there. Cops and FBI agents everywhere. To believe a known mobster could easily gain access to the building, while ARMED, then just walk right up to Oswald unmolested and shoot him, is hard to believe.
It was not the most secure building at all. Ruby and others were in fact openly allowed in without challenge which he often exploited by asking cops to patronize his club. It was easy for him to do what he did.
No. Not while Oswald was in custody. The place was crawling with LEOs. Particularly the day he was to be transferred. They allowed a well known mobster with a firearm, access to Oswald. It was done on purpose.

This fact is but one of hundreds that prove a conspiracy in the assassination.
He was not a mobster and he was not allowed. They slipped up and no their security was not as you claim. They had mobs of reporters and other onlookers.

Your facrs are false. There are no facts whicvh prove it only myths such as the one you just made up.
Oh brother you dupe. Ruby was clearly a mobster fool. Saying he wasn’t merely proves you’re a CIA liar.

Yeah they screwed up security at the Dallas PD on purpose. Just like they somehow failed to know the only US Marine to EVER defect to the USSR and return without a hiccup, who then publicly demonstrated for Castro, just happened to work in the TSBD building when JFK’s open limousine made a very slow tight left turn in front of that building, where no security also existed.

FOOL!!!
You have the most retarded standard of prooif on earth.

Ruby claimed to be a mobster but that is all. The experts at the FBI who spend their careers studying organized crime know better than you and they know he was no mobster but just a wanna be who tried to jack up his image by claiming to be mob connected. The fact is no evidence exists he was such a big shot and had no known connections. As usual you have not done due dilligence and performed any objective research.

Yes that is correct they screed up and not on purpose which has been proven. Yes it is also true that they do not keep dossiers on everyone in everhy city and being the only marine to IMMIGRATE to the USSR is irrelevant.

Your bubble odf fallacy is popping much as you hate it.
 

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