Even the government itself admitted in the 70's there was a conspiracy to kill JFK.

you know if Oswald did kill Kennedy, how can people be so sure it wasn't at the behest of the soviets, sense he spent some time there? How could they have dismissed that so early, or at all?

What did they have to gain?
 
you know if Oswald did kill Kennedy, how can people be so sure it wasn't at the behest of the soviets, sense he spent some time there? How could they have dismissed that so early, or at all?

What did they have to gain?

What did they have to gain with the cold war? Why did the US view them as adversaries?

Kennedy tangled with them over Cuba and missles, maybe they just got sick of it.
 
you know if Oswald did kill Kennedy, how can people be so sure it wasn't at the behest of the soviets, sense he spent some time there? How could they have dismissed that so early, or at all?

What did they have to gain?

What did they have to gain with the cold war? Why did the US view them as adversaries?

Kennedy tangled with them over Cuba and missles, maybe they just got sick of it.

Reagan called them an evil empire and told them to "take down this wall." He also armed Russian resistance in Afghnistan. One would think they would have done Reagan.

The cold war was just tension between the US and Russia. I am thinking to keep both sides in a state of constant fear, easier to manage people that way.
 
What did they have to gain?

What did they have to gain with the cold war? Why did the US view them as adversaries?

Kennedy tangled with them over Cuba and missles, maybe they just got sick of it.

Reagan called them an evil empire and told them to "take down this wall." He also armed Russian resistance in Afghnistan. One would think they would have done Reagan.

The cold war was just tension between the US and Russia. I am thinking to keep both sides in a state of constant fear, easier to manage people that way.

presumably security was higher after reagan

that the cold war was just hyped up tension may be testified to by the fact that the government didnt even seem to investigate the possible soviet role in the assassination. But that certainly wasnt the posture of the government.
 
a) You can start by explaining how Oswald was able to fire off the last 2 shots almost simultaneously using a poorly operating bolt action rifle?

OK, this is exactly what I mean about you posting your opinion without one shred of evidence. Where do you get that someone fired 2 shots almost simultaneously? First of all the HCA came to the conclusion they do not know when the first shot was fired. But they figured that the second two were fired 5.6 seconds apart. So if we allow 2,3 seconds to operate the bolt that is about 8 seconds, plenty of time and has been proved over and over.

The acoustic evidence that the HCA determined there was four shots has since been blown out of the water.

So you need to provide a source of the two shots at one time.

Plenty of evidence. Go back and READ...

The Double Bang

The Warren Commission's official conclusion concerning the "Number of Shots" states that all the shots were fired from the sixth-floor window at the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository Building. [58] The Commission stated that a consensus among witnesses at the scene was that three shots were fired, though some heard two shots and others heard four and perhaps as many as five or six shots. [59] It was the Commission's belief that (a) one shot passed through the President's neck and caused all of Governor Connally's wounds, (b) a subsequent shot hit the President's head, (c) no other shot struck any part of theautomobile, and (d) three shots were fired with one missing, though which one missed is unknown. [60] "Two bullets probably caused all the wounds suffered by President Kennedy and Governor Connally. Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of seven seconds." [61]

FBI tests for the Warren Commission found that a 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano, bolt-action rifle, Model 91/38 required a minimum of 2.3 seconds to fire two shots. [62] The HSCA made tests in which the telescopic sight was removed to see how fast the rifle could be fired without aiming. Its tests resulted in firings of 1.65, 1.75, and just over two seconds. [63] The only way that the rifle could be fired this quickly was to simply maneuver the bolt action as fast as possible and shoot. The tests were not done with Oswald's Mannlicher Carcano. Whether Oswald's rifle was in a condition where it could be tested is questionable since "the pressure to open the bolt was so great that we tended to move the rifle off the target," according to one of the Warren Commission testers. [64]

If Oswald were the only shooter there would have to be at least 2.3 seconds between shots, assuming he used the telescopic sight found on the Mannlicher Carcano. The three shots that the Warren Commission claimed were fired from Oswald's rifle could not have been shot faster than 6.9 seconds. Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman described the shots as a "flurry." Two of the shots were often described by witnesses as so closely spaced that theyseemed "simultaneous" and had "practically no time element between them." Additionally, there is a substantial amount of testimony, presented in this article, that describes the later shots as sounding different from the first shot. Governor Connally's initial reaction to the gunfire was "that there were either two or three people involved or more in this or someone was shooting with an automatic rifle." [65]

A double sound, or bang, is described by three Secret Service agents. Two of these agents sat within feet of Kennedy as occupants of the limousine. A double shot was reported by one of the witnesses standing on the overpass.

Special Agent William Greer, the limousine driver, testified that "the last two shots seemed to be just simultaneously, one behind the other." [66]

The other Secret Serviceman in the limousine was Roy Kellerman. Agent Kellerman sat next to Greer and was intimately familiar with the sound of weapons. He described the first shot like many others had, as sounding like a firecracker. But the other two shots, which he officially reported as a "flurry," sounded different than the first shot. Asked by Mr. Specter if Kellerman could describe the sound of the flurry of shots by way of distinction of the first shot, Kellerman replied " ... if I recall correctly these were two sharp reports, sir." Did they sound different from the first shot, asked Specter. "Yes. Definitely. Very much so." Kellerman added: " ... "Let me give you an illustration ... You have heard the sound barrier, of a plane breaking the sound barrier, bang, bang? That is it. It was like a doublebang --- bang, bang." [67]

In Warren Commission testimony Special Agent Hickey described "two reports which I thought were shots ... that there seemed to be practically no time element between them." [68]

Clint Hill, the agent who threw himself into the limousine after the shooting, told the Commission that the second noise he heard was different from the first shot " ... like the sound of shooting a revolver into something hard... almost a double sound." [69]

S.M. Holland carefully watched the motorcade from the railroad overpass. He heard four shots with the third and fourth sounding like a "double shot." He thought some of the shots came from behind the fence on the grassy knoll. "Well it would be like you're firing a .38 pistol right beside a shotgun, or a .45 right beside a shotgun... the third shot was not so loud ... the third and fourth shot hit the President." [70]

Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig. "The first shot ... sort of like it reverberated ... well, it was quite a pause between there [the first and second shots] ... It could have been a little longer [than two or three seconds]... " Between the second and third shots there was "no more than two seconds. It was--they were real rapid." [71]

Joe R. Molina. "... Of course, the first shot was fired then there was an interval between the first and second, longer than the second and third." [72]

Seymour Weitzman. "First one, then the second two seemed to be simultaneously." [73]

Ladybird Johnson. " ... suddenly there was a sharp loud report--a shot. It seemed to me to come from the right, above my shoulder, from a building. Then a moment and then two more shots in rapid succession." [74]

Special Agent Forrest V. Sorrels. "There was to me about twice as much time between the first and second shots as there was between the second and third shots." [75]

Congressman Ralph W. Yarborough. "... by my estimate--to me there seemed to be a longer time between the first and second shots, a much shorter time between the second and third shots... after the first shot about three seconds another shot boomed out, and after what I took to be one-half the time between the first and second shots ... the third shot about one and one-half seconds after the second shot ..." [76]

Mayor Earle Cabell. "There was a longer pause between the first and second shots than there was between the second and third shots. They were in rather rapid succession." [77]

Special Agent Sam A. Kinney. "I saw the President lean toward the left and appeared to have grabbed his chest with his right hand. There was a second of pause and then two more shots were heard ... " [78]

Special Agent William A. McIntyre. "The Presidential vehicle was approximately 200 feet from the underpass when the first shot was fired, followed in quick succession by two more. I would estimate that all three shots were fired within five seconds. After the second shot, I looked at the President and witnessed his being struck in the head by the third and last shot." [79]

Special Agent George Hickey (in reference to the second and third shots). "At the moment he was almost sitting erect I heard two reports, which I thought were shots and that appeared to me completely different in sound than the first report and were in such rapid succession that there seemed to be practically no time element between them." [80]

Special Agent Warren W. Taylor. "In the instant that my left foot touched the ground, I heard two more bangs and realized that they must be gun shots." [81]

Linda Willis. "Yes, I heard one. Then there was a little bit of time, and then there were two real fast bullets together. When the first one hit, well, the President turned from waving to the people, and he grabbed his throat, and he kind of slumped forward, and then I couldn't tell where the second shot went." [82]

Special Agent Rufus Youngblood. "There seemed to be a longer span of time between the first and the second shot than there was between the second and third shot." [83] " ... from the beginning at the sound of the first shot to the second or third shot, happened with a few seconds." [84]

Robert Jackson. "I would say to me it seemed like three or four seconds between the first and the second, and between the second and third, well, I guess two seconds, they were very close together ... " [85]

Arnold Rowland. "The actual time between the reports I would say now, after having had time to consider the six seconds between the first and second report and two between the second and third." [86]

Luke Mooney. "... The second and third shot was pretty close together, but there was a short lapse there between the first and second shot." [87]

Ms. Mitchell (Mary Ann Mitchell). "... there were three---the second and third being closer together than the first and second ... " [88]

Lee Bowers "I heard three shots. One, then a slight pause, then two very close together ... also reverberation from the shots." [89]

Jean Hill. "There were three shots -- one right after the other, and a distinct pause, or just a moment's pause, and I heard more ... " And concerning the shots that followed the first three Ms. Hill said they were "quicker -- more automatic." [90]

The Dallas Police Department's dictabelt recording became a focal point in the HSCA's conclusion that there was more than one gunman. The recording supposedly documented the sound of four gunshots in Dealey Plaza. [91] Closer analysis of this recording has seriously questioned whether the recording can be considered a valid representation of the sounds in Dealey Plaza during the shooting. [92] Without an audio recording of the shooting, we are left with only the witnesses' recollection of the sounds. Several witnesses testified to the sound of echoes [93]during the shooting, and others described all the shots as being evenly spaced. Recent studies have focused on the acoustical patterns of how gunshots and witness testimony coincide in respect to sniper rifles and silencers that were developed by the CIA. [94] However, the numerous descriptions of the last two shots by so many witnesses leaves doubt as to whether Oswald was physically capable of firing both of the shots that so many characterized as being shot almost simultaneously, if not "automatically."
 
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b) Then explain how John Connolly could have possibly had a 'delayed reaction' to the grievous wounds that ripped through his chest. To his dying day Connolly vehemently said he was not hit by the first bullet.

Neither of them were hit with the first bullet according the HCA and the Warren commission. But let us say they got it wrong, so what? What you are going to say is that the alleged delay is due to two shooters. Well how about if it went down like this.

First shot hit Kennedy in the back and lodges there later to become the "pristine" bullet.

Second shot misses Kennedy and hits Connelly with the bullet fragmentizing..

The third hit Kennedy in the head.

Either way three shot, three from the same person three from Oswald.

While I am good with the single bullet theory it could have gone down in the way I describe and that still does not point to conspiracy.

EPIC fail...

You FORGOT one bullet and a third victim. The bullet that hit a curb and the fragment that hit James Tague.

James "Jim" Thomas Tague was a witness to the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. He received a minor wound on his right cheek during the assassination from the ricochet of a bullet intended for Kennedy.
 
What did they have to gain?

What did they have to gain with the cold war? Why did the US view them as adversaries?

Kennedy tangled with them over Cuba and missles, maybe they just got sick of it.

Reagan called them an evil empire and told them to "take down this wall." He also armed Russian resistance in Afghnistan. One would think they would have done Reagan.

The cold war was just tension between the US and Russia. I am thinking to keep both sides in a state of constant fear, easier to manage people that way.
reagan! bahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
EPIC fail...

You FORGOT one bullet and a third victim. The bullet that hit a curb and the fragment that hit James Tague.

James "Jim" Thomas Tague was a witness to the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. He received a minor wound on his right cheek during the assassination from the ricochet of a bullet intended for Kennedy.
did they ever find "the bullet that hit the curb" or the fragment ?
 
Here is a visual of the reports from ear witnesses as to how many shots they thought were fired. A couple things to remember, eye or ear witness reports are very unreliable no matter who may be doing the reporting.

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It is clear there were three shots there is no evidence of more just speculation.

Hear from a direct witness, about the 6 minute mark, she is quite sure of 3 shots, no doubt in her mind.



Here is a picture of where Tague was standing on that day:

James-Tague-Near-Underpass.jpg


Here is a big picture if Dealey Plaza:

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Note that where he was standing, the motorcade and the SBD line up almost exactly. It is preposterous to think that the shot that hit him could have come from any where else, such as the grassy knoll.

The Tague wounding is the smoking gun for conspiracy theorists. There is no way to explain what hit him and when. Just not possible. So it will be a mystery forever. That is why folks that wish to throw doubt like to use him. But it must be noted. He said he thought three shots were fired. He said that he felt the shots came from the direction of the SBD.

Three shots. Oswald fired three shots, do the math.
 
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Here is a video showing the accuracy of the rifle:

Note, the man took 14 seconds to fire 3 direct hits at 650 yards and he was not in a hurry nor was he pumped with adrenalin.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy_T7D2-Y3o]650 yards 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano M91/38 rifle Kennedy Oswald - YouTube[/ame]
 
Here is Ventura trying the shot. Note, he DOES do it in the time given to Oswald he is only repeating the conspiracy theory not the fact.:

Jesse Ventura tries to duplicate Oswald's shooting sequence - YouRepeat

Here is a video of the CBS test. Plenty of time. And again. Even a blind pig finds an acorn. Ventura was wrong. Oswald had also qualified as a Sharpshooter and then a Marksman and should have been very familiar with the rifle.

Jesse Ventura tries to duplicate Oswald's shooting sequence - YouRepeat
 
Here is a visual of the reports from ear witnesses as to how many shots they thought were fired. A couple things to remember, eye or ear witness reports are very unreliable no matter who may be doing the reporting.

Grant.png


It is clear there were three shots there is no evidence of more just speculation.

Hear from a direct witness, about the 6 minute mark, she is quite sure of 3 shots, no doubt in her mind.

JFK Assassination Eyewitness - Nellie Connally TV Interview 2003 - Part 2 - YouTube

Here is a picture of where Tague was standing on that day:

James-Tague-Near-Underpass.jpg


Here is a big picture if Dealey Plaza:

--CE875--.jpg


Note that where he was standing, the motorcade and the SBD line up almost exactly. It is preposterous to think that the shot that hit him could have come from any where else, such as the grassy knoll.

The Tague wounding is the smoking gun for conspiracy theorists. There is no way to explain what hit him and when. Just not possible. So it will be a mystery forever. That is why folks that wish to throw doubt like to use him. But it must be noted. He said he thought three shots were fired. He said that he felt the shots came from the direction of the SBD.

Three shots. Oswald fired three shots, do the math.

You are not doing the math...AND you are relying on 'eye or ear witness reports'

If 3 shots were fired and one shot missed the limousine, struck the south curb of Main Street near the Triple Underpass and wounded James Tague on the right cheek...AND...Oswald was the lone shooter, then you are left with only 2 bullets to inflict the wounds to both Governor Connolly and President Kennedy.

BUT...you said:

First shot hit Kennedy in the back and lodges there later to become the "pristine" bullet.

Second shot misses Kennedy and hits Connelly with the bullet fragmentizing..

The third hit Kennedy in the head.

Either way three shot, three from the same person three from Oswald.


NOW what???????
 
Here is a visual of the reports from ear witnesses as to how many shots they thought were fired. A couple things to remember, eye or ear witness reports are very unreliable no matter who may be doing the reporting.

Grant.png


It is clear there were three shots there is no evidence of more just speculation.

Hear from a direct witness, about the 6 minute mark, she is quite sure of 3 shots, no doubt in her mind.

JFK Assassination Eyewitness - Nellie Connally TV Interview 2003 - Part 2 - YouTube

Here is a picture of where Tague was standing on that day:

James-Tague-Near-Underpass.jpg


Here is a big picture if Dealey Plaza:

--CE875--.jpg


Note that where he was standing, the motorcade and the SBD line up almost exactly. It is preposterous to think that the shot that hit him could have come from any where else, such as the grassy knoll.

The Tague wounding is the smoking gun for conspiracy theorists. There is no way to explain what hit him and when. Just not possible. So it will be a mystery forever. That is why folks that wish to throw doubt like to use him. But it must be noted. He said he thought three shots were fired. He said that he felt the shots came from the direction of the SBD.

Three shots. Oswald fired three shots, do the math.

You are not doing the math...AND you are relying on 'eye or ear witness reports'

If 3 shots were fired and one shot missed the limousine, struck the south curb of Main Street near the Triple Underpass and wounded James Tague on the right cheek...AND...Oswald was the lone shooter, then you are left with only 2 bullets to inflict the wounds to both Governor Connolly and President Kennedy.

BUT...you said:

First shot hit Kennedy in the back and lodges there later to become the "pristine" bullet.

Second shot misses Kennedy and hits Connelly with the bullet fragmentizing..

The third hit Kennedy in the head.

Either way three shot, three from the same person three from Oswald.


NOW what???????

I just gave you an alternate scenario. What hit Tague could have been a fragment from any of the shots, except the one that hit Conley. Again, it is pretty clear there were three shots. One missing was the judgment of the HSCA and the Warren commission. So clearly that could have been the one that nicked Tague. I also said we can not know it will forever be a mystery.
 
Here is a visual of the reports from ear witnesses as to how many shots they thought were fired. A couple things to remember, eye or ear witness reports are very unreliable no matter who may be doing the reporting.

Grant.png


It is clear there were three shots there is no evidence of more just speculation.

Hear from a direct witness, about the 6 minute mark, she is quite sure of 3 shots, no doubt in her mind.

JFK Assassination Eyewitness - Nellie Connally TV Interview 2003 - Part 2 - YouTube

Here is a picture of where Tague was standing on that day:

James-Tague-Near-Underpass.jpg


Here is a big picture if Dealey Plaza:

--CE875--.jpg


Note that where he was standing, the motorcade and the SBD line up almost exactly. It is preposterous to think that the shot that hit him could have come from any where else, such as the grassy knoll.

The Tague wounding is the smoking gun for conspiracy theorists. There is no way to explain what hit him and when. Just not possible. So it will be a mystery forever. That is why folks that wish to throw doubt like to use him. But it must be noted. He said he thought three shots were fired. He said that he felt the shots came from the direction of the SBD.

Three shots. Oswald fired three shots, do the math.

You are not doing the math...AND you are relying on 'eye or ear witness reports'

If 3 shots were fired and one shot missed the limousine, struck the south curb of Main Street near the Triple Underpass and wounded James Tague on the right cheek...AND...Oswald was the lone shooter, then you are left with only 2 bullets to inflict the wounds to both Governor Connolly and President Kennedy.

BUT...you said:

First shot hit Kennedy in the back and lodges there later to become the "pristine" bullet.

Second shot misses Kennedy and hits Connelly with the bullet fragmentizing..

The third hit Kennedy in the head.

Either way three shot, three from the same person three from Oswald.


NOW what???????

I just gave you an alternate scenario. What hit Tague could have been a fragment from any of the shots, except the one that hit Conley. Again, it is pretty clear there were three shots. One missing was the judgment of the HSCA and the Warren commission. So clearly that could have been the one that nicked Tague. I also said we can not know it will forever be a mystery.

WHAT fragment? A BULLET hit the south curb of Main Street near the Triple Underpass and wounded James Tague on the right cheek.
 
You are not doing the math...AND you are relying on 'eye or ear witness reports'

If 3 shots were fired and one shot missed the limousine, struck the south curb of Main Street near the Triple Underpass and wounded James Tague on the right cheek...AND...Oswald was the lone shooter, then you are left with only 2 bullets to inflict the wounds to both Governor Connolly and President Kennedy.

BUT...you said:

First shot hit Kennedy in the back and lodges there later to become the "pristine" bullet.

Second shot misses Kennedy and hits Connelly with the bullet fragmentizing..

The third hit Kennedy in the head.

Either way three shot, three from the same person three from Oswald.


NOW what???????

I just gave you an alternate scenario. What hit Tague could have been a fragment from any of the shots, except the one that hit Conley. Again, it is pretty clear there were three shots. One missing was the judgment of the HSCA and the Warren commission. So clearly that could have been the one that nicked Tague. I also said we can not know it will forever be a mystery.

WHAT fragment? A BULLET hit the south curb of Main Street near the Triple Underpass and wounded James Tague on the right cheek.

Keep asking the same question and you will still get the same answer. It is not possible to know what hit Tague. Could have been something that hit the curb could have been something else. You don't know, I don't know, the HSCA and the Warren committees didn't know and Tague didn't know. It is not like he suffered a massive injury he had barely a scratch on his face. Are you willing to say it was a bullet tor a fragment that caused such a minor wound? Three shots.
 
I still think one of the most interesting questions is why if Oswald did kill Kennedy, how can people be so sure it wasn't at the behest of the soviets, sense he spent some time there? How could they have dismissed that so early, or at all?

Perhaps Putin knows something.
 
I still think one of the most interesting questions is why if Oswald did kill Kennedy, how can people be so sure it wasn't at the behest of the soviets, sense he spent some time there? How could they have dismissed that so early, or at all?

Perhaps Putin knows something.

The Russians had nothing to gain and nuclear war to risk. I see nothing that the Russian got out of the killing of JFK. Even they had to know we were not going to allow nuclear missiles in Cuba. Although it really didn't matter with submarines with nuclear launch capabilities. At least with Cuba we knew where the missiles were located.
 
I realize I am getting into this late but here is my opinion. The HSC was prepared to come to the conclusion that there was no second gunman up to the last days of testimony. Then in come some "scientists" that claim the Dictaphone proves 4 shots were fired. The HSC then changed their conclusion. Since then the claim of 4 shots has been blown out of the water in many different ways. It is a shame that the HSC perpetuated incorrect information in its conclusion. It gets all the conspiracy theory people all riled up for no good reason.

There were three shots. The HSC said that Oswald shot three times. There fore it was Oswald. KISS.

The sole acoustic evidence relied on by the committee's experts to support its theory of a fourth gunshot (and a gunman on the grassy knoll) in the JFK assassination, was a Dictabelt recording alleged to be from a stuck transmitter on a police motorcycle in Dealey Plaza during the assassination. After the committee finished its work, however, an amateur researcher listened to the recording and discovered faint crosstalk of transmissions from another police radio channel known to have been made a minute after the assassination. This was supported by the National Academy of Science article.[citation needed]

Further, the Dallas motorcycle policeman thought to be the source of the sounds followed the motorcade to the hospital at high speed, his siren blaring, immediately after the shots were fired. Yet the recording is of a mostly idling motorcycle, eventually determined to have been at JFK's destination, the Trade Mart, miles from Dealey Plaza.[citation

A simple minded reply that requires total disregard of physical, forensic, ballistic and eye witness evidence, disregard of the testimony of one of the victims of the shooting, his wife, the senior Secret Service Agent in the passenger seat and all laws of physics and science...

Present one at a time and we will discuss. What I posted wasn't nearly as simple minded as what you posted it is the truth. The single bullet, proved to be true. Eye witness accounts are invariably not reliable so we can just throw those out and stick to the physical evidence.

I watched a special where they tried to simulate the single bullet. They did it almost exactly the only thing that did not happen was it didn't lodge in the simulated thigh. The bullet hit everywhere the single bullet hit and came out just as "pristine."

It is always your side that produces posts like yours. No fact just innuendo. I provided facts yet you accuse me of just the opposite.

Oswald killed Tippets and he killed JFK, case should have been closed years ago. The only thing keeping it going is the what iffers.

.hysterical how you fell hook, line and sinker for the lamestream medias trick photograpghy.:lmao: easy to substitute a pristine bullet on the tv.doesnt happen in real life charlie.thats because you magic bullet theorists ignore facts that there were multitple shooters there that day.:cuckoo:you guys have ZERO evidence that oswald was the lone shooter or shot tippet while there are overwhelming facts that there were multiple shooters there that day.:cuckoo: the only thing thats closed is your mind. the JFK case is closed in the fact it has been proven the CIA was behind it all.

you guys ignore facts that all the dallas doctors said both the head wound and and throut wound were entrance wounds from the front and witnesses saw a gunman behin the fence firing a rifle as well as ignoring the laws of physics.:cuckoo:

you magic bullet theorists go into these discussions only seeing what you WANT to see never watching videos of photos taken that day that prove there were multiple shooters of many bullets seen that day the warren commission did not explain because they could not be traced back to oswalds rifle. you guys always run off everytime from these two videos below are shown because your so much in denial and afraid of the truth and wont talk about them because you know you cant refute the facts these videos prove multiple shooters were there that day.:cuckoo:





you magic bullet theorists also always blatantly ignore facts that many people who came forward and gave versions of events different than the governments wound up dying in very myserious deaths not to mention constantly ignoring the fact that according to many witnesses,the warren commission altered their testimonys,a crime itself they should have all gone to jail for.:cuckoo:

the country has gone downhill since JFK died that day.He was our last REAL president we had.Not a puppet for the establishment,not willing to do what they told him to do and he paid the price for it. Every single president we have had since then,with the exception of carter,has been more even and corrupt than the previous one. Carter like JFK,also tried to get rid of the CIA in his last year in office.The establishment knew he was on his way out and would not be reelected so thats why they didnt bother trying to assassinate,why bother with just one year left in office.
 
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What did they have to gain with the cold war? Why did the US view them as adversaries?

Kennedy tangled with them over Cuba and missles, maybe they just got sick of it.

Reagan called them an evil empire and told them to "take down this wall." He also armed Russian resistance in Afghnistan. One would think they would have done Reagan.

The cold war was just tension between the US and Russia. I am thinking to keep both sides in a state of constant fear, easier to manage people that way.

presumably security was higher after reagan

that the cold war was just hyped up tension may be testified to by the fact that the government didnt even seem to investigate the possible soviet role in the assassination. But that certainly wasnt the posture of the government.


speaking of reagan,the blind sheople in america who worship that evil bastard as god and consider him the greatest president ever are not aware of facts that he blocked jim garrisons extradition requests to subpeona many key high officials in government when he was governor of california.Thats why like future president ford,like ford,he was also rewarded the office of the presidency for participating in the coverup just like Ford did.
They talk about that in that first video I posted and its been talked about in other jfk books as well.
 
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