Zone1 Even if you don't believe in God, It's better to be religious

Religious people are often a certain type of person who wants to be controlled, wants to be promised empty promises. Others can't cope with that.
The more likely reality is that atheists have an almost psychotic fear of anything they perceive is trying to 'control' them personally. They fear 'control' while ironically, they fear not being in control over all things in their lives.

In contrast, people of faith, especially deep faith, are aware of the immense amount of freedom we have, and embrace ways that open the path to even greater freedom. The irony here is that freedom begins with giving God and His ways first place in one's life. Commandments/Beatitudes are not shackles. Instead, they shake off the shackles that may be present.

Honoring one's parents, for example, opens up an entirely different relationship than a relationship that develops when not honoring them.
 
The more likely reality is that atheists have an almost psychotic fear of anything they perceive is trying to 'control' them personally. They fear 'control' while ironically, they fear not being in control over all things in their lives.

In contrast, people of faith, especially deep faith, are aware of the immense amount of freedom we have, and embrace ways that open the path to even greater freedom. The irony here is that freedom begins with giving God and His ways first place in one's life. Commandments/Beatitudes are not shackles. Instead, they shake off the shackles that may be present.

Honoring one's parents, for example, opens up an entirely different relationship than a relationship that develops when not honoring them.

Naw, what we fear is you God-Botherers trying to control our lives to appese your Magic Sky Friend.

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Not sure how agnosticism would be any better to appease a God who will not only send you to hell for not believing in him, but will send you to hell for belonging to the wrong religion.

"You can't send me to Hell, I was a Mormon! Where's my own planet to rule?"

"Nope, sorry, wrong religion. Off to Hell you go!"
That's the point, you don't have to slave yourself to one particular church or religion.

I still maintain if you want to worship one thing the Sun might be your best bet. ;)
 
What does it mean to be "religious"?

You obey the Commandments - even the little ones between the lines. You are kind, patient, and considerate. You go to Church. You pray when it is appropriate to pray. You give your available time and money to the Church and/or to charity. You structure some of your life around the Sabbath and religious holy days. You join organizations that further your religiosity. You say the things that believers are (more or less) obliged to say. You help your spouse to be religious, and you teach your children to be like you. When your kids' "activities" conflict with significant religious observances, the religious observances take precedence.

OR, you could be un-religious, non-religious, or anti-religious. In which case you do "what you think is 'right,'' you are considerate when it is in your own best interest to be considerate. You never pray, your Saturdays, Sundays and holidays are devoted to self-absorbed pleasure seeking. You vote for Democrats and consider yourself "empathetic" by doing so. You tell yourself and others that you are a "good" person. You marry someone who is as indifferent to religion as you are and avoid associating with religious "fanatics." You teach your kids to be similarly unreligious, so there is never any issue with religious stuff interfering with soccer practice, play dates, or screen time.

I submit that whether you believe in God or any particular theological structure or not, it is better to live in the former way than the latter. Christian, Mormon, 7DA, whatever. Religiosity is the better way to live.

Just as it is better to treat your "loved ones" with respect, kindness, consideration, and affection, whether you are feeling the love at any particular moment in time or not.

To quote the late Charlie Kirk, "Prove me wrong."

That might be "religious" but it's not Christian. To these folks Jesus will say, "depart from Me, I never knew you".

But

I agree that Judeo-Christian values are the foundation of Western Civilization and make for strong families and societies.
 
Hey, this is what your Sister Mary Butch taught us back in the day... you are going to Hell if you show up at the more modest Protestant Church.
I am beginning to believe your Sister Mary is a figment of your imagination. In fact, it makes me wonder if you ever were in a Catholic school, or if so, paid any attention at all. Again, this spouting of ignorance...have you nothing better?
 
Naw, what we fear is you God-Botherers trying to control our lives to appese your Magic Sky Friend.
Again, a statement spouted from sheer ignorance and/or a bizarre imagining. If you wish to discuss the Catholic faith, try truth. It's possible to disagree with something true; no need to concoct/fabricate anything from a weak intellect.
 
I am beginning to believe your Sister Mary is a figment of your imagination. In fact, it makes me wonder if you ever were in a Catholic school, or if so, paid any attention at all. Again, this spouting of ignorance...have you nothing better?

I still have the nightmares once a month. Um, yeah, Catholic School Prison Camps were real.

The good thing is now that it's cool to be a Lesbian, you won't see bitter old women in these roles anymore.

The Convent on the school grounds of my old parish was converted into apartments.
 
Again, a statement spouted from sheer ignorance and/or a bizarre imagining. If you wish to discuss the Catholic faith, try truth. It's possible to disagree with something true; no need to concoct/fabricate anything from a weak intellect.

Okay.

The Church instigated the Crusades- True or False.
The Church instigated the Inquisition - True or False
The Church collaborated with the Axis Powers - True or False
The Church hid evidence of child abuse for decades- True or False.
 
The Church instigated the Crusades? You are a ******* moron. Have you not heard that the Moslems took over the Holy Land from Christians and Jews by force? That they persecuted and killed religious pilgrims by the thousands? That they destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the second Temple, and thousands more to boot?

Check my second sentence above.
 
Faith is a choice. It is not something bestowed on you by "god."

Name a conspicuously good person who is not religious. I'll spot you the Dalai Lama (Bhuddism is not a religion in the conventional sense).
 
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Faith is a choice. It is not something bestowed on you by "god."

Name a conspicuously good person who is not religious. I'll spot you the Dalai Lama (Bhuddism is not a religion in the conventional sense).

Well that's not what the Bible says
 
this fits here>>>

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