Ethics: Doctor-Assisted Suicide

As long as they are of sound mind and able to make such a decision, I have no issue with it. Why shouldn't the terminally ill or permanently disabled have the right to choose when and how they die?

I agree whole-heartedly and so do these states:

Physician-assisted suicide in the United States is legal in the states of California, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington.

Evidently Montana isn't far from legalizing it.
 
Republicans don't care if someone dies. They just want it to be painful and happen after birth.

Yep....Republicans like to keep unwanted children alive even when the potential parent has better sense. Their specialty is waiting till they commit a crime and wiping their asses out in a medical chamber. Texas has moved into the number one position.
 
Eliminating unwanted segments of society will keep expanding....3,700 human lives are snuffed out by abortion each day. It's just a matter of time until laws are passed to legally eliminate other segments of society that are considered "unwanted" or a drain on resources. The unborn are just the beginning....the terminally ill are next, the elderly and then just the chronically ill...and it won't stop there.

It's pretty much impossible to prevent individuals from ending their own life; but we need to make sure that further state-sanctioned killing remains illegal.
 
Republicans don't care if someone dies. They just want it to be painful and happen after birth.

Yep....Republicans like to keep unwanted children alive even when the potential parent has better sense. Their specialty is waiting till they commit a crime and wiping their asses out in a medical chamber. Texas has moved into the number one position.

"a crime.....?" You mean the crime of first degree murder. Democrats oppose the occasional execution of the guilty but approve snuffing out over a million innocent lives each year.
 
Thing on CNN's 'crawl' a few days ago mentioned Belgium considering making it legal for children with terminal illnesses to request euthanasia. oogling around for more information, The Netherlands already allows children as young as 12 to request suicide (with their parents' consent.)

Is this ethical? I would say it isn't. I conceed though often times our objections to suicide are more for our own comfort than the patient's, but giving this option to people just feels wrong.
It is not ethical to demand someone else to kill you.

you want to commit suicide - that is your choice.

don't demand anybody else to do it for you.
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Maybe instead of "demand", a "request" to those medical specialists who have empathy would be a more accurate way of describing the situation ... for those patients who cannot do it themselves.
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It is n"t ethical and violates the doctor's oath to do no harm.

Surprisingly, though pop culture states otherwise, the Hippocratic Oath doesn't include the line "do no harm..." Reading about this curiousity it's because surgery for example involves doing harm to effect a cure as with cutting open the patient. The oath has changed too over the millenia reflecting changes in ethics and technology.

Hippocratic Oath: Modern Version

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

—Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.
No one has the authority to change the Hippocratic Oath.
 
Germany walked down this road in the 1930's and before it was all over the Third Reich had murdered 10 million people.
 
Germany walked down this road in the 1930's and before it was all over the Third Reich had murdered 10 million people.
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WTF?
You are comparing watermelons and cranberries.
Can you please improve or explain your logic?
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Canada adopts law allowing Medically assisted suicide...
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Medically assisted suicide becomes law in Canada
June 18, 2016 -- Canada has adopted a law allowing medically assisted suicide for terminally ill people. The law was proposed in 2015 after Canada's Supreme Court overturned a ban on doctor-assisted suicide in 2015.
The Senate approved the legislation 44-28 Friday after it earlier was passed by the House of Commons. Then it received the formality of royal assent from the governor-general. Some senators sought a law broader than those suffering from an "incurable'' disease or disability "in an advanced stage of irreversible decline," and should have included degenerative conditions, such as multiple sclerosis. But they gave in to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberal government.

In a statement, Canada's Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould and Health Minister Jane Philpott said the bill struck "the right balance between personal autonomy for those seeking access to medically assisted dying and protecting the vulnerable." Trudeau said the law is needed to give doctors and hospitals clarity in dealing with terminally ill patients. The new law has been criticized for being too restrictive than the Supreme Court ruling. "The government's bill will trap patients in intolerable suffering and takes away their hard-won charter right to choose assistance in dying," Josh Paterson, executive director the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association, told Canadian Press.

The Canada's court's decision included adults suffering from intolerable physical or psychological pain and untreatable medical condition. The Supreme Court had ruled that existing laws against physician-assisted dying was no longer valid by June 6. The deadline passed, but the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association had said critically ill Canadians would access to physician-assisted dying and would no longer need to seek a court exemption. Assisted suicide is currently legal in Switzerland, the Netherlands, Albania, Colombia and Japan. In the United States, it's allowed legally in Washington, California, Oregon, Vermont, New Mexico and Montana.

Medically assisted suicide becomes law in Canada

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Canada OKs Doctor-Assisted Suicide, for Terminally Ill Only
June 17, 2016 - Easy passage ends parliamentary standoff; bill will become law after royal assent by governor general, largely a formality
Canada's Senate on Friday passed a bill that would allow terminally ill people to end their lives with assistance from a doctor. The bill passed easily, 44-28, ending a political deadlock between the upper and lower houses. It will become law after royal assent by the governor general, a step that is largely a formality.

The limitation of doctor-assisted suicide to those who are terminally ill had been a point of contention in lawmakers' debates. Some senators wanted to broaden the criteria under which people could seek a doctor's help to die, but the House, led by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, argued for strict limits.

The legislation also would allow medically assisted suicide only for those who qualify for government-funded health services in Canada — a measure to prevent people from traveling to Canada to die. Canada's Supreme Court struck down an old prohibition against doctor-assisted suicide in 2015 and gave the government one year to draft legislation regulating the practice.

Canada OKs Doctor-Assisted Suicide, for Terminally Ill Only
 
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Germany walked down this road in the 1930's and before it was all over the Third Reich had murdered 10 million people.
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WTF?
You are comparing watermelons and cranberries.
Can you please improve or explain your logic?
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The Holocaust is well documented. I suggest you do some research.
What does that have to do with people asking doctors to end their lives because they are in unbearable pain. Btw I'm from Belgium, and if I for instance get cancer or something like Lou Gehrigs disease and the only thing I can look forward to is pain and suffering, I'm glad I have to option to die with dignity at a time of my choosing.
 
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Nazi Germany went down this road and it led to genocide but I guess people want to do it again. What a bunch of fuckheads you people are.
 
Republicans don't care if someone dies. They just want it to be painful and happen after birth.
ROFLMAO!!! That is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. When I think of the far Right I always envision this and laugh ....

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Nazi Germany went down this road and it led to genocide but I guess people want to do it again. What a bunch of fuckheads you people are.
What a moron, comparing personal willful and sometimes personal willful assisted suicide with enforced euthanasia. Obviously high school history was as far as you got, if that far.
 
I am all for the assisted suicide option for terminal adults. But children? Things always get dicey when minors make adult decisions, knowing or unknowingly.

That's a tough call. Just like the case of child murderers where the crux of the issue is "When can a child truly understand their actions as they pertain to adult situations and consequences?"
 
I am all for the assisted suicide option for terminal adults. But children? Things always get dicey when minors make adult decisions, knowing or unknowingly.

That's a tough call. Just like the case of child murderers where the crux of the issue is "When can a child truly understand their actions as they pertain to adult situations and consequences?"
Yea it would be something I as a parent would find insanely hard. But a 12 year old feels pain as much as an adult and it's not like a decision like that can or will be made on a whim.
 
Thing on CNN's 'crawl' a few days ago mentioned Belgium considering making it legal for children with terminal illnesses to request euthanasia. oogling around for more information, The Netherlands already allows children as young as 12 to request suicide (with their parents' consent.)

Is this ethical? I would say it isn't. I conceed though often times our objections to suicide are more for our own comfort than the patient's, but giving this option to people just feels wrong.
So, exactly how much should a doctor get for expunging a life: one hundred, a thousand, perhaps a hundred thousand dollar? They don't practice medicine for nothing. And who is going to pay for this simple thing? The public? Why not just toss individuals off a cliff. That would be free and the end would be exactly the same.

I personally believe that the dying have an opportunity to teach us, strength of character, hope, love, and how to live and appreciate every moment we have. OR, they can demonstrate how to run away from adversity.

Now I do not believe in having every operation and taking every drug up to that moment of death. I do firmly believe that one can certainly turn his or her life over to the Creator and say, "Whenever You are ready Lord ---- I'm in Your hands." And frankly, God doesn't send a bill.
 
Thing on CNN's 'crawl' a few days ago mentioned Belgium considering making it legal for children with terminal illnesses to request euthanasia. oogling around for more information, The Netherlands already allows children as young as 12 to request suicide (with their parents' consent.)

Is this ethical? I would say it isn't. I conceed though often times our objections to suicide are more for our own comfort than the patient's, but giving this option to people just feels wrong.
So, exactly how much should a doctor get for expunging a life: one hundred, a thousand, perhaps a hundred thousand dollar? They don't practice medicine for nothing. And who is going to pay for this simple thing? The public? Why not just toss individuals off a cliff. That would be free and the end would be exactly the same.

I personally believe that the dying have an opportunity to teach us, strength of character, hope, love, and how to live and appreciate every moment we have. OR, they can demonstrate how to run away from adversity.

Now I do not believe in having every operation and taking every drug up to that moment of death. I do firmly believe that one can certainly turn his or her life over to the Creator and say, "Whenever You are ready Lord ---- I'm in Your hands." And frankly, God doesn't send a bill.
Like I said I'm from Belgium and I don't mind having to pay for this. I don't believe that there's anything gained, emotionaly, spiritiully or that it's neccesarry to show charactar when you are in pain and have no hope of relief. How much do you think a person with Lou Gehrig's appriciates life when he lays in his bed and can't even blink anymore, or the person who's in the last stages of cancer, drugged up so he's in a constant state of semi-wakefullness? This is a difficult topic but I don't believe anybody has the right to tell another person how to die, anymore then he has the right to tell someone how to live. And if a person decides enough is enough, I find it humane that that person is given the right to do it legaly, cleanly and at a time of his choosing.
 

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