The Latest On The Culture Of Death {Government murder}

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Yesterdayā€™s update article by Bob Unruh prompted me to edit a few messages I posted over the years.

Let me begin by pointing out that the type of person who profits from the Affordable Care Act will staff the hospitals, testing labs, etc. They are the very type Democrats want to encourage, and take part in, everything that was done to Terri Schiavo. The treatment Jahi McMath received is worse than most ā€œlife-supportā€ stories because all-powerful doctors and hospitals did it to her. And it was done after the ACA became law. Note that Jahi is still alive:


Theologian: 'Brain-dead' doesn't really count
Offers to act as expert witness in case of 13-year-old incapacitated during surgery
Published: 12/28/2013 at 5:34 PM

Theologian: ā€˜Brain-deadā€™ doesnā€™t really count

Socialists/Communists/Democrats do everything incrementally. Government murder is no different.

terri_schiavo.jpg

Terri Schiavo prior to her brain injury.
http://www.wnd.com/files/2013/03/terri_schiavo.jpg

ā€œItā€™s just common sense here,ā€ Schindler said. ā€œLook at the progression of this ā€˜right to dieā€™ agenda. This culture is killing our most vulnerable. How can we expect them to look out for people ā€¦ like Terri when they are looking out for their best interest, which is money, cost?ā€

He continued: ā€œThis is happening every day. ā€¦ People donā€™t realize that what happened to Terri ā€¦ She wasnā€™t terminal, she wasnā€™t sick, she wasnā€™t dying.ā€​

The brutality in the way Circuit Judge George W. Greer of Pinellas County, Florida, took part in the murder of Terri Schiavo stands as a template for everything every judge can now do in 50 states:

That legal determination is a life-and-death matter, warns Bobby Schindler, whose sister, Terri Schiavo, died 11 years ago Thursday after a judge ruled a care center could withhold medical treatment, which resulted in the removal of her feeding tube.

It took her 13 days to die.​

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. . . whatā€™s alarming now is the fact that itā€™s now legal in all 50 states to do exactly what was done to Terri.​

Notice the tie-in to Planned Parenthoodā€™s profitable body parts business:

ā€œDecisions are being made now in the best interests of the hospital,ā€ he said. ā€œIt all comes back to costs and hospital profitability.ā€

Also now, he warned, the issue of brain death and organ donation is imposing further pressure on incapacitated patients and their families.

ā€œThey had to create a way to make it easier to get at peopleā€™s organs,ā€ he said.

So the result was a ā€œbrain deathā€ diagnosis in which surgeons declare that death has occurred and organs can be transplanted.​

11 years after Terri's death, 'medical treatment' threat grows
Posted By Bob Unruh On 03/30/2016 @ 9:39 pm

11 years after Terriā€™s death, ā€˜medical treatmentā€™ threat grows

NOTE: The term brain dead was created by Harvard butchers in 1968. Their reason was obvious. Calling a medical condition brain dead quickly acquired a precise legal definition insofar as a charge of homicide was avoided when killing someone in a coma. In plain English: A brain dead diagnosis was created as a legal excuse to kill.

An ad hoc committee at Harvard Medical School published a pivotal 1968 report to define irreversible coma. The Harvard criteria gradually gained consensus toward what is now known as brain death. In the wake of the 1976 Karen Ann Quinlan controversy, state legislatures in the United States moved to accept brain death as an acceptable indication of death. Finally, a presidential commission issued a landmark 1981 report ā€“ Defining Death: Medical, Legal, and Ethical Issues in the Determination of Death ā€“ that rejected the "higher brain" approach [clarification needed] to death in favor of a "whole brain" definition. This report was the basis for the Uniform Determination of Death Act, which is now the law in almost all fifty states. Today, both the legal and medical communities in the US use "brain death" as a legal definition of death, allowing a person to be declared legally dead even if life support equipment keeps the body's metabolic processes working.

Brain death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an assumption that thoughts, emotions, feelings, etc., originate in the brain. Hence, brain dead sounds logical. Iā€™ve never been convinced that is the case. When you cut your finger an impulse is sent to the brain telling you to feel the pain in your finger. The paralyzing fear a person feels as their car skids towards an oncoming truck begins in the pit of their stomach, it does not originate in the brain.

Who can deny that thoughts are only processed by the brain originating elsewhere as in pain or fear? The brain is a processor and doesnā€™t feel pain. As far as I know, there was no damage elsewhere sending signals to Terriā€™s brain telling her to feel pain. There was no evidence that she was feeling pain. Even if it can be shown beyond a doubt that she was in pain the answer is painkillers not euthanasia.

Those who killed Terri said that she was not in pain ā€”ā€” never admitting that starvation causes pain even if the brain was not functioning well enough to activate a defense mechanism.

Who can swear that Terriā€™s life force, her emotions, her ability to know life was not functioning? Letā€™s say that a bird landed on Terriā€™s windowsill. How can anyone say that Terri did not experience the same pleasure and curiosity that makes an infant giggle? The euthanasia crowd will never admit to that possibility because they only speak for themselves. They assume that because they donā€™t want to live in a so-called vegetative state no one else does either.

My point: A brain dead vegetative state is a physical thing with no proof that thoughts and emotions arenā€™t alive and well somewhere else. People in West assigned courage and cowardliness to the heart: ā€œHe has the heart of a lionā€ or ā€œHeā€™s fainthearted.ā€ The Chinese always thought the liver was the most important organ. To me, that shows there has always been a suspicion that thoughts and emotions reside someplace other than the brain. I never came across a great body of thought that put the brain at the center of life. Those who believe in euthanasia are the only ones who say that. I donā€™t consider their political agenda a great body of thought.

If there is any chance that I am absolutely correct about this ā€”ā€”Terriā€™s very essence was starved in the cruelest way imaginable.

Agree or disagree with removing Terri Schiavoā€™s feeding tube, but you cannot deny that an individual got away with killing her because justification ā€”ā€” not the act ā€”ā€” was the deciding factor. By exonerating the person who did the act, did not the courts endorse the Nazi defense? I was following orders. Bottom line: The courts must always judge the act not the justification.


Floridaā€™s courts allowed it, and the US Supreme Court refused to hear the case. Had the SCOTUS taken the case you can be certain the butchers would have screamed about the government interfering in our lives. Naturally, it is not government interference when a state court ordered the feeding tube removed. The person who actually pulls the plug committed murder. I never found the name of the person who removed the feeding tube? And I never understood why the hell they were not arrested for premeditated murder?

Why murder? And why premeditated?

A person had to commit the physical act of removing the feeding tube well-knowing Terriā€™s death would be the result. Thatā€™s premeditated murder. Think of it this way. Suppose the individual who removed Terriā€™s feeding tube had the courtā€™s permission to shoot her rather than let her starve to death. Would that be premeditated murder?

Parenthetically, TV viewers are bombarded with government propaganda depicting hard-hitting cops and district attorneys ever-ready to lockup the bad guys, yet someone commits a deliberate act that ends in the death of another person and there are no cops or district attorneys in sight. In fact, the policeman on duty in Terriā€™s room was told to leave the room so he could not be a called as a witness to identify the murderer.

In addition, judges in Terriā€™s case are guilty of aiding and abetting a premeditated homicide. At the very least, someone in authority should have told those judges: ā€œIf you want that feeding tube removed come and do it yourself.ā€ I know that if I worked at Terriā€™s hospice and someone ordered me to remove her feeding tube, I would have told them where to shove the job.

And how many Americans realize that Socialist priests in our courts issue orders while making damn sure that real blood doesnā€™t soil their precious robes.

NOTE: Please do not compare the court-ordered murder of an innocent woman to the execution of a criminal after a decade or more of tax dollar funded appeals. In any event, Terri Schiavo did not hurt anyone, but she was killed without her consent anyway.

One of the arguments I heard for killing Terri when it was in the news cited her Right to abstain from receiving artificial life support. The word abstain was actually used. Of all of the sick perversions in that tragedy the abstain claim is the worst; more so since no one knew what Terri wanted. The government does not allow Americans to abstain from anything these days. Obviously, an exception was made to accommodate the Grim Reaper in Terriā€™s Right to abstain from being murdered.

And of course there is always this: ā€œAmerica is a nation of laws.ā€ What a joke that is. America is a nation of judges issuing orders. Neither judges nor anyone else had the Right to end Terriā€™s life just because she couldnā€™t speak for herself.

Incidentally, the Left is forever citing the Nazis as the only villains in the twentieth century. Some try to equate conservatives to Nazis, yet a close look always shows that Socialists are the Nazi clones. Not punishing Terri Schiavoā€™s murderer is only one such example.

To no oneā€™s surprise the ACLU came down on the side of killing Terri Schiavo:



The ACLU is a charter member in the Culture of Death, while at the same time the ACLU fights the death penalty at every turn.

Do not let the Leftā€™s push to abolish the death penalty fool you. Liberals are outraged by the death penalty because they fear the day may come when they find themselves strapped to a gurney.

To justify taking an innocent individualā€™s life opens the door to governments murdering millions. If the tens of millions of murders done by governments in the last century taught anything it is that there is no slope slipperier than cultivating the governmentā€™s bloodlust.

The road to governments slaughtering their own people begins with the publicā€™s acceptance of things like mercy killing, doctor-assisted suicide, abortion on demand, and so on.

Was I too hard on judges? Hardly! A snake is a snake; a judge is a judge. A venomous snake may drowse in a bed of flowers, but it remains a deadly snake. Snakes and judges do what they will do. They are creatures of habit no more able to change their ways than the Earth can alter its orbit around the sun.

Let me close with a bit of gallows humor:

Parts of the human body had a meeting to decide who was in charge.

"I should be in charge," said the brain, "because I run all the body's systems; so without me nothing would happen."

"I should be in charge," said the blood, "because I circulate oxygen all over; so without me you'd all waste away."

"I should be in charge," said the stomach," because I process food and give all of you energy."

"I should be in charge," said the legs, "because I carry the body wherever it needs to go."

"I should be in charge," said the eyes, "because I allow the body to see where it goes."

"I should be in charge," said the rectum, "Because I'm responsible for waste removal."

All the other body parts laughed at the rectum and insulted him; so he shutdown in a huff.

Within a few days, the brain had a terrible headache, the stomach was bloated, the legs got wobbly, the eyes got watery, and the blood was toxic. So they quickly decided that the rectum should be the boss.

The moral of the story?

The asshole is usually in charge!
 
You've got two stories here.

So what ?

Remember when Harvard published that bulls**t "study" that said 47,000 people a year were dying due to a lack of health insurance ?

The left grabbed it and ran with it.

They've never produced a significant amount of corpses to prove their point (in fact, to my knowledge they've never produced one....but statistically you'd have to know they exist.......). They don't need to. The bulls**t lie is out. That's all that matters.

I feel the same way about this issue.

I don't know this case or the few others like it. But I find the speculation over it to be a little overpowering in terms of it's fishiness.
 
You've got two stories here.

So what ?

Remember when Harvard published that bulls**t "study" that said 47,000 people a year were dying due to a lack of health insurance ?

The left grabbed it and ran with it.

They've never produced a significant amount of corpses to prove their point (in fact, to my knowledge they've never produced one....but statistically you'd have to know they exist.......). They don't need to. The bulls**t lie is out. That's all that matters.

I feel the same way about this issue.

I don't know this case or the few others like it. But I find the speculation over it to be a little overpowering in terms of it's fishiness.

Perhaps you can refute the 47,000 figure. With facts. I'm sure you'll do that in your very next post in this thread, right?
 
Socialists/Communists/Democrats do everything incrementally. Government murder is no different.
Brain dead is not required to commit murder. Here is one example of how Socialismā€™s incrementalism distributes money and murder throughout their Culture of Death.

The federal government claims Harris went the ā€œextra mileā€ to hasten patientsā€™ death for cash. The agent said that on at least four occasions employees were encouraged to overdose patients. One nurse refused the order but the document did not elaborate on others.​

FBI: Hospice owner ordered nurses to give overdose
Posted By Douglas Ernst On 03/31/2016 @ 3:35 pm

FBI: Hospice owner ordered nurses to give overdose

NOTE: Socialismā€™s killing machine piled up more bodies than did all of the wars in the past five centuries, yet the murderers scream the loudest about the horrors of war. They should be railing against the most lucrative killing business known to man ā€”ā€” ABORTION ā€”ā€” 55,000,000,000 in this country since 1973. Multiply the cost of one abortion by 55,000,000,000 and you get some idea of how much money killing pays. Abortion is the industry leader, but there is big money in killing the elderly, the weak, and the defenseless. Also note that Socialists are the worst cowards of all. Victims do not fight back when they are being killed by kindness.
 
If being brain dead allows one to be killed without any kind of judicial proceeding then how long before the last living Democrat doesn't?
It is the old white christians who are dying off and they are republicans, We are going through a demographic shift if you haven't been paying attention
 
If being brain dead allows one to be killed without any kind of judicial proceeding then how long before the last living Democrat doesn't?
It is the old white christians who are dying off and they are republicans, We are going through a demographic shift if you haven't been paying attention

That shift got us a republican house and senate.

What a bummer.
 
That's the essence of capitalism right there, bub.
To Arianrhod: Another sparkling gem from a Lefty halfwit!

Let me help you out before you further embarrass yourself. Tax dollar greed is the essence of Socialism/Communism ā€”ā€” the exact opposite of capitalism.

It is the old white christians who are dying off and they are republicans, We are going through a demographic shift if you haven't been paying attention
To guno: You better hope you are wrong. Who is going to create the wealth Third World freeloaders rely on after the white race is gone?

In case you have not been paying attention, non-whites are flocking to Caucasian countries not the other way around. Bottom line: Caucasians can feed themselves, can non-whites forcing themselves on white countries say the same? Before you answer you better check the racial makeup in countries where starvation is a way of life.

Incidentally, the lowest standard of living in a white country is higher than the standard of living in most non-white countries. The demographic shift you pray for will end with non-whites turning America into one of the shit-holes they came from.
 
Brad Harris ordered patients executed for cash. Did you actually read the article you posted?
To Arianrhod: Harris did it for tax dollars. You might have read the article, but, as usual, you are too stupid to comprehend what you read:

An FBI affidavit viewed by KXAS-5 in Dallas Fort Worth says Novus Health Care Services, Inc. founder Brad Harris, 34, demanded nurses misuse drugs like morphine to speed up patientsā€™ demise. Quick deaths allow companies to avoid what is called an ā€œaggregator cap,ā€ which limits Medicare and Medicaid payments based on the yearly average hospice stay.

ā€œYou need to make this patient go bye-bye,ā€ Harris allegedly wrote to a nurse, the FBI agentā€™s affidavit said. The government also claims he made comments like ā€œif this fā€”er would just die,ā€ and ā€œfind patients who [will] die within 24 hours.ā€​
 
That's the essence of capitalism right there, bub.
To Arianrhod: Another sparkling gem from a Lefty halfwit!

Let me help you out before you further embarrass yourself. Tax dollar greed is the essence of Socialism/Communism ā€”ā€” the exact opposite of capitalism.

It is the old white christians who are dying off and they are republicans, We are going through a demographic shift if you haven't been paying attention
To guno: You better hope you are wrong. Who is going to create the wealth Third World freeloaders rely on after the white race is gone?

In case you have not been paying attention, non-whites are flocking to Caucasian countries not the other way around. Bottom line: Caucasians can feed themselves, can non-whites forcing themselves on white countries say the same? Before you answer you better check the racial makeup in countries where starvation is a way of life.

Incidentally, the lowest standard of living in a white country is higher than the standard of living in most non-white countries. The demographic shift you pray for will end with non-whites turning America into one of the shit-holes they came from.

Suggestion...put her on ignore.

I did and have never regretted it.
 
That's the essence of capitalism right there, bub.
To Arianrhod: Another sparkling gem from a Lefty halfwit!

Let me help you out before you further embarrass yourself. Tax dollar greed is the essence of Socialism/Communism ā€”ā€” the exact opposite of capitalism.

It is the old white christians who are dying off and they are republicans, We are going through a demographic shift if you haven't been paying attention
To guno: You better hope you are wrong. Who is going to create the wealth Third World freeloaders rely on after the white race is gone?

In case you have not been paying attention, non-whites are flocking to Caucasian countries not the other way around. Bottom line: Caucasians can feed themselves, can non-whites forcing themselves on white countries say the same? Before you answer you better check the racial makeup in countries where starvation is a way of life.

Incidentally, the lowest standard of living in a white country is higher than the standard of living in most non-white countries. The demographic shift you pray for will end with non-whites turning America into one of the shit-holes they came from.

Suggestion: Sun Devil assumes everyone else who enters this forum is as thin-skinned and unable to defend their position as he is. You're about the 20th poster he's told to put me on ignore.

Take that into consideration going forward.

I personally don't care if the thin-skins run away. I'm only interested in interacting with responsible adults.
 
And the feds are investigating him.
To Arianrhod: Tax dollars created the crime. There is nothing to investigate when there is no crime. There is nothing to steal in an empty bank. Can you grasp that?
 
Brad Harris ordered patients executed for cash. Did you actually read the article you posted?
To Arianrhod: Harris did it for tax dollars. You might have read the article, but, as usual, you are too stupid to comprehend what you read:

An FBI affidavit viewed by KXAS-5 in Dallas Fort Worth says Novus Health Care Services, Inc. founder Brad Harris, 34, demanded nurses misuse drugs like morphine to speed up patientsā€™ demise. Quick deaths allow companies to avoid what is called an ā€œaggregator cap,ā€ which limits Medicare and Medicaid payments based on the yearly average hospice stay.

ā€œYou need to make this patient go bye-bye,ā€ Harris allegedly wrote to a nurse, the FBI agentā€™s affidavit said. The government also claims he made comments like ā€œif this fā€”er would just die,ā€ and ā€œfind patients who [will] die within 24 hours.ā€​

You are never going to get it through......

I can't imagine the twisted response.

This guy needs to die too.

Your point being that there is an aggregator cap....which would be good to better explain.

What if Harris didn't kill them like this, but more subtly abused them until they died...or just made them suffer ?

All because our health care system has problems made by the government.
 

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