Eric Holder: Public Schools, You will Enroll Children of Illegal Immigrants!

[Harry Dresden]

Another slap in the face to the American people.

and the boards moron gets slapped in the face again ... you pobably need teeth implants ... your face is getting slapped so often

coming from you Billy thats pretty funny....watch out you dont break those glass walls when you throw them rocks...you might get cut....

 

[namvet]

just another inbred darkie we'll deal with

 

[rdean]

These illegals don't qualify under the provisions of that law.

If they are running from danger then they do.

many kids in South Central run from danger every day just getting to school and back again....

And that's what we should send them back to? Just asking.

 

[rdean]

obama changes other laws with an stroke of his pen, why not this one?

obama hasn't changed any law with the stroke of a pen ... where did you get that misinformation??? thwe house has to change the law moron ... even with the president signing a executive order he could do that ... so what law has he changed with a stroke of a pen ...

LOL, he changed the obamacare law 37 times, did you miss that? He is ignoring our immigration laws, did you miss that? His exec orders have been shot down as unconstitutional by SCOTUS, did you miss that?

You sure about that? You know they delayed Medicare so it could be implemented properly. The same with Medicare Part D, delayed by Bush.

But when Obama does what has been standard practice for decades, he should be lynched. Go ahead. Say it.

 

[Stephanie]

I don't Remember electing Holder to the Presidency or anything else where he is the BOSS of anything OR US

but they are working on this

 

[Harry Dresden]

If they are running from danger then they do.

many kids in South Central run from danger every day just getting to school and back again....

And that's what we should send them back to? Just asking.

did not think you would care or understand what i said....but then you have proven like so many other people here that you only "care" about people if you can bad mouth your favorite political party otherwise....you can give a shit....

 

[RoadVirus]

Eric Holder: Public Schools, You will Enroll Children of Illegal Immigrants!

needs to be changed to

Eric Holder: Public Schools: You must allow illegal immigrant childdren with Scabies, Lice and TB to interact with American children!

and then it will be correct.

 

[S.J.]

For an example of the effects this ongoing invasion is having in communities around our country see: Lynn officials: Illegal immigrant children are stressing city services

Jul 14, 2014

LYNN, Mass. (MyFoxBoston.com) -- Lynn is a municipality on the brink. Key department officials say a recent influx of illegal immigrant children and families in the city is stressing almost every service from trash collection to healthcare.


"We have been aware of the unaccompanied children issue for quite a while, and we were able to absorb a lot of these children early on," said Lynn Mayor Judith Flanagan Kennedy. "But now it's gotten to the point where the school system is overwhelmed, our health department is overwhelmed, the city's budget is being sustainably altered in order of accommodate all of these admissions in the school department."





JWK

The Obama Administration is employing the same cowardly tactics used by Hamas. They hide behind woman and children while flooding our country with the poverty stricken populations of other countries!

you are a sick-o... but then again republicans are know for being the scurge of the earth

its ....scourge ....like i said Billy .....post sober....

He IS sober. He's just incredibly stupid.

 

[RoadVirus]

For an example of the effects this ongoing invasion is having in communities around our country see: Lynn officials: Illegal immigrant children are stressing city services

Jul 14, 2014

LYNN, Mass. (MyFoxBoston.com) -- Lynn is a municipality on the brink. Key department officials say a recent influx of illegal immigrant children and families in the city is stressing almost every service from trash collection to healthcare.


"We have been aware of the unaccompanied children issue for quite a while, and we were able to absorb a lot of these children early on," said Lynn Mayor Judith Flanagan Kennedy. "But now it's gotten to the point where the school system is overwhelmed, our health department is overwhelmed, the city's budget is being sustainably altered in order of accommodate all of these admissions in the school department."

As long as these brats grow up to be Democrat voters, Obama and Co. don't give a shit about the strain this invasion is putting on cities.

 

[RoadVirus]

Taxpayers are overburdened because Voodoo has pandered to the bloated rich and giant corporations for 32 years, misinformed dingbats. See sig pp1 and stop blaming the victims, racist/brainwashed chumps...

All i see in this post is:
blah blah blah blah bloated rich blah blah blah blah racist chumps blah

In other words, a typical post from Franco the Dyslexic.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I think a lot of people posting in this thread seemed to have missed the fact that the Supreme Court ruled that states MUST provide education to undocumented aliens back in 1982.

This isn't anything new.

 

[R.C. Christian]

Increasingly, the states just don't give a damn about the federal governments idle threats because the federal government selectively enforces it's laws which has the subsequent effect of rendering all other laws useless in the eyes of it's subjects.

 

[bendog]

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SEE: Feds to schools: You must accept children of undocumented immigrants

”The Justice and Education Departments are teaming up to remind public schools that they are required to provide all children with equal access to education at the elementary and secondary level regardless of their parents' or guardians' citizenship or immigration status.”


Of course, Eric Holder, is relying upon a 1982 Supreme Court opinion, Plyler vs. Doe, in which the court intentionally misrepresented both the text and legislative intent of the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment declares:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

When the Court says "the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens” as distinguished from “persons”, it is absolutely correct. The amendment declares “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”. But the amendment then goes on to extend a specific protection to “any person” as distinguished from “citizens” and forbids “any person” from being deprive of life, liberty, or property without due process being extended. Due process must be extended before “any person” may be deprived of life, liberty, or property, which is a very reasonable requirement and not in dispute. What is in dispute is Eric Holder’s assertion that a State’s public schools must enroll a foreigner who is not a citizen of the United States or of the State in which enrollment is applied for.

Getting back to the 14th Amendment, we come the wording which commands that “any person” within a State’s jurisdiction may not be denied “the equal protection of the laws” which have been established by a State. Note that these words do not even remotely suggest to negate the power of a State to create “privileges and immunities” for her “citizens” which are not afforded to “persons” who are not citizens. But the words do forbid a state to deny the equal protection of the laws, e.g., if a State decides to issue a driver’s learner’s permit to citizens of their state at the age of 16, then it may not refuse such a permit to any person who is a citizen based upon race or color to be in compliance with the legislative intent of the 14th Amendment. But denying the equal protection of the laws within the context of the 14th Amendment was not intended to, or does it, prohibit a State from making distinctions based upon citizenship with reference to “privileges and immunities” created by a States. A State’s public school system is within the category of “privileges” which a State may offer her citizens, and under the 14th Amendment’s legislative intent that privilege may not be denied to a State’s citizens based upon race or color. But it can be denied to those who are not citizens of the united States or of the state in question!

In fact, the legislative intent of the 14th Amendment was eloquently summarized by one of its supporters as follows:


“Its whole effect is not to confer or regulate rights, but to require that whatever of these enumerated rights and obligations are imposed by State laws shall be for and upon all citizens alike without distinctions based on race or former condition of slavery…It permits the States to say that the wife may not testify, sue or contract. It makes no law as to this. Its whole effect is to require that whatever rights as to each of the enumerated civil (not political) matters the States may confer upon one race or color of the citizens shall be held by all races in equality…It does not prohibit you from discriminating between citizens of the same race, or of different races, as to what their rights to testify, to inherit &c. shall be. But if you do discriminate, it must not be on account of race, color or former conditions of slavery. That is all. If you permit a white man who is an infidel to testify, so you must a colored infidel. Self-evidently this is the whole effect of this first section. It secures-not to all citizens, but to all races as races who are citizens- equality of protection in those enumerated civil rights which the States may deem proper to confer upon any race.” ___ SEE: Rep. Shallabarger, Congressional Globe, 1866, page 1293



The bottom line is, there is no provision in the Constitution of the United States which prohibits a State from exercising its reserved powers under the Tenth Amendment and refuse to enroll a foreigner in its public school system who has entered the United States illegally and is not a citizen. Each State would do well to tell Eric Holder to go fly a kite and refuse to enroll any child whose parents are unable to show their child is a Citizen of the United States and of the State in which they reside and wish to enroll that child in its public school system.


JWK

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.___ Tenth Amendment

I'm not saying these kids should be coming in, or that they shouldn't be deported unless there's some inhuman situation in their country and if they have someone legally here who will be financially and parentally responsible for them.

But, I don't see the point of your thread/OP. It's been the law for at least 30 years now that illegal alien kids get educations. I'm all for COMPREHENSIVE reform, but if you're just picking this issue out of the entire thing, it seems ... incomplete.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I think a lot of people posting in this thread seemed to have missed the fact that the Supreme Court ruled that states MUST provide education to undocumented aliens back in 1982.

This isn't anything new.

Doesn't mean its right.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I think a lot of people posting in this thread seemed to have missed the fact that the Supreme Court ruled that states MUST provide education to undocumented aliens back in 1982.

This isn't anything new.

Doesn't mean its right.

But it does mean that Eric Holder didn't actually have anything to do with it.

Trying to blame the current administration for a Supreme Court decision that happened 32 years ago is pretty pathetic.

 

[johnwk]

I think a lot of people posting in this thread seemed to have missed the fact that the Supreme Court ruled that states MUST provide education to undocumented aliens back in 1982.

This isn't anything new.

Doesn't mean its right.

But it does mean that Eric Holder didn't actually have anything to do with it.

Trying to blame the current administration for a Supreme Court decision that happened 32 years ago is pretty pathetic.

What is pathetic are those who give their allegiance to a Supreme Courts written opinion rather than the words of our Constitution and their intended meaning as documented from the debates during which time our Constitution was framed and ratified.

Are we to forget that Eric Holder to an oath to support our constitution and only those laws made in pursuance thereof?

Now, if you disagree with the facts I posted concerning the 14th Amendment at the top of the thread and you have documentation from the 39th Congressional debates which gave birth to the 14th Amendment to support your opinion, feel free to post that information here and we can then move forward in a productive and illuminating discussion as to the meaning of the 14th Amendment as intended by those who framed and helped to ratify it .

Unlike many who are quick to offer their opinions as facts, I prefer to offer facts which support or disprove an opinion.

JWK


"On every question of construction [of the Constitution], carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."--Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

It's a "fact" that the Supreme Court ruled the way they did.

That they ruled incorrectly is your opinion, not "fact".

 

[Harry Dresden]

you are a sick-o... but then again republicans are know for being the scurge of the earth

its ....scourge ....like i said Billy .....post sober....

He IS sober. He's just incredibly stupid.

the "male" version of TM's....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I think a lot of people posting in this thread seemed to have missed the fact that the Supreme Court ruled that states MUST provide education to undocumented aliens back in 1982.

This isn't anything new.

Doesn't mean its right.

Nonsense, of course it's right.

We don't want politicians deciding who is a citizen or who will have his due process rights.

 

[Harry Dresden]

For an example of the effects this ongoing invasion is having in communities around our country see: Lynn officials: Illegal immigrant children are stressing city services

Jul 14, 2014

LYNN, Mass. (MyFoxBoston.com) -- Lynn is a municipality on the brink. Key department officials say a recent influx of illegal immigrant children and families in the city is stressing almost every service from trash collection to healthcare.


"We have been aware of the unaccompanied children issue for quite a while, and we were able to absorb a lot of these children early on," said Lynn Mayor Judith Flanagan Kennedy. "But now it's gotten to the point where the school system is overwhelmed, our health department is overwhelmed, the city's budget is being sustainably altered in order of accommodate all of these admissions in the school department."

As long as these brats grow up to be Democrat voters, Obama and Co. don't give a shit about the strain this invasion is putting on cities.

not many Republican politicians do anything about this either....been going on for decades....