Enrollment into the ACA is increasing dramatically!

[GHook93]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/8283570-post1.html

Hey loser only 5-15% of those that so-called enrolled have actually made their first payments!!! According to Sebillus, if you don't make your first payment your aren't considered compliant with Obaminationcare, hence not technically considered enrolled in Obaminationcare.

Also don't get wet in the pants with increased enrollment. They are at 365K (to which only 18,250 - 54,750 actually made payments - hence enrolled), when they had to be in the millions at this point!!! They claim what 25-30 million are uninsured and a little over a quarter million elected to get into Obaminationcare! LOL, how is that a success. In about 2 1/2 weeks 25-30 million uninsured people are going to get hit with a tax/penalty of $59 or 1% of their income (make $30K and you pay $300K, $60K and it's $600) which ever is higher.

Also of course enrollment dramatically increases, when the incompetent system allowed only 10 people to enrol, 365K appears to be a lot, however, when they needed 10s of millions, those numbers BLOW!

This bill hasn't even effected businesses yet. Remember they gave them a delay. Big business got in their annual enrollement early. Next year you will hear the anger from everyone on a group plan and the small business environment who are unable to eat these costs.

Only in a fantasy world to the low information voter base that Democrats buy would view Obaminationcare as a positive!

 

[Wry Catcher]

(thank you Scalia, Alito, Thomas, Kennedy and Roberts for proving Mr. Franklin so prescient, we had a Republic but couldn't keep it. All it took was 5 votes and CU v. FEC transformed us from a democratic republic into a Plutocracy).

And that "plutocracy" inserted Obama with all that money. You support that. Are you mental?

Am I "mental"? Nope, I simply exercised my opinion. Only an asshole, too dumb to offer an alternative view, would phrase an ad hominem in the form of a question.

Partisans on both sides of the aisle benefited from this ill advised decision and both major political parties suffer the trappings of it - We The People are the ones deriving no benefits and see the harm it caused everyday, in every legislative body in our nation. Only a fool sees CU. v FEC as free speech, as only a fool sees yelling "Fire" in a crowd as protected speech.

 

[rightwinger]

Question for Republicans

After all these people sign up, how are you going to run on taking it away from them in 2014?

Got something better to offer?

Yes.

Lower Premiums from buying a policy that you actually will use, you pick the deductible, and a robust medical savings account that you own for your life and can pass onto your estate if unused.

Who is offering it?

 

[mudwhistle]

I can feel the drama ... and the hyperbole. I wonder, where did you get the "6 MM" figure? I also wonder how many of those who received cancellation notices purchased a new policy which cost more but provided better benefits?

Yes, they all got better policies at lower costs, saving $2,500 annually while ditching their substandard, crappy policy

Once again a simple question has been ignored. You claimed 6 MM lost their policy. Making such a statement means one of two things, you have a credible source to prove the truth of your statement, or, you're a liar.

We just go by what has been reported.

Besides, even the feds said it would happen. It was well known by everyone in Washington. It was Obozo who chose to lie about it.

Another 50 - 150 million are predicted to lose their coverage next year, which is why Obozo chose to move the group plan mandate deadline to after the next election.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Yes, they all got better policies at lower costs, saving $2,500 annually while ditching their substandard, crappy policy

Once again a simple question has been ignored. You claimed 6 MM lost their policy. Making such a statement means one of two things, you have a credible source to prove the truth of your statement, or, you're a liar.

How's this? Does Congressional testimony count?

"Energy and Commerce Committee chairman Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI) took Sebelius’s boasting down another notch, noting that the regulations imposed by the new healthcare bill have already resulted in as many as 5 million Americans getting their plans cancelled. Thus, even if one assumes the administration’s best-case scenario in terms of achievement, “millions more Americans would have lost coverage than gained it in the first months of the rollout,” he said.

It is far worse than that. Of the approximately 1.2 million Americans who have gained healthcare coverage so far, 803,000 have been determined to be eligible for Medicaid. In other words, those enrolled in “free” government-run healthcare account for two out of every three signups."

ObamaCare?s Date with Destiny Approaches | FrontPage Magazine

Is a Republican Member of the H. of Rep. a credible source? Did he vote to repeal the PPACA 40 times? I'm not convinced, but I really don't care what you post, you lost any credibility long ago.

 

[mudwhistle]

Once again a simple question has been ignored. You claimed 6 MM lost their policy. Making such a statement means one of two things, you have a credible source to prove the truth of your statement, or, you're a liar.

How's this? Does Congressional testimony count?

"Energy and Commerce Committee chairman Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI) took Sebelius’s boasting down another notch, noting that the regulations imposed by the new healthcare bill have already resulted in as many as 5 million Americans getting their plans cancelled. Thus, even if one assumes the administration’s best-case scenario in terms of achievement, “millions more Americans would have lost coverage than gained it in the first months of the rollout,” he said.

It is far worse than that. Of the approximately 1.2 million Americans who have gained healthcare coverage so far, 803,000 have been determined to be eligible for Medicaid. In other words, those enrolled in “free” government-run healthcare account for two out of every three signups."

ObamaCare?s Date with Destiny Approaches | FrontPage Magazine

Is a Republican Member of the H. of Rep. a credible source? Did he vote to repeal the PPACA 40 times? I'm not convinced, but I really don't care what you post, you lost any credibility long ago.

Is the federal registry a credible source?

The very document the government uses to announce their regulations so everyone can comply?

I don't know. These days nothing our government does seems trustworthy.

 

[chikenwing]

The biggest campaign cry from the GOP is beginning to slip away. If the system is working better and better into 2014, and the enrollment increases dramatically, then it is going to be very hard for the GOP to use the ACA in its congressional campaigns.

Frank, you are carrying the Republican banner. I expect nothing less from you.

So people being lied to means nothing ? why do you ignore the millions that are being forced off of existing policy?? but getting your way is all that counts right?

Except they weren't lied to. At least not by the President.

Those policies were sold after the law was enacted by providers that knew full well they'd be swapping them out and blaming the law.

Bull fucking shit they weren't,he repeated the same lie as all you other suck holes have repeated.

Your kind of low life know no bounds in your shallow immoral blubbering do you??

 

[Vox]

The biggest campaign cry from the GOP is beginning to slip away. If the system is working better and better into 2014, and the enrollment increases dramatically, then it is going to be very hard for the GOP to use the ACA in its congressional campaigns.

Frank, you are carrying the Republican banner. I expect nothing less from you.

Working better does not mean working in a satisfactory manner to the public. Only better than before, which isn't worth much in the real world.

You guys went apeshit over a website which was provisioned to handle the traffic of several states, not over 36 of them. And hiring rules were set up by congress.

So Conservatives basically set this up for failure..and then started crowing when it failed.

Trick is..the President stepped in and got it working.

Faster, by the way, than Medicare Part D.

Don't lie. It were the leftards who were narrowing obamacare humongous flaws and problems to stupid site - nobody cared about the site on the conservative side as it is a clear distraction form the REAL problems of people being dropped from their AFFORDABLE insurance plans in order to force them to UNAFFORDABLE rip-off called obamacare.

and that is what was, is and is going to be pointed out by every conservative - and rightfully so, as this mafia-style racket called obamacare is unprecedented in the history of this country !!!
forcing the shitty product which is USELESS for the most part - does not cover needed doctors, needed hospitals, needed care and needed medications.

But charges exponentially higher than the insurance people have chosen before.

 

[Wry Catcher]

So people being lied to means nothing ? why do you ignore the millions that are being forced off of existing policy?? but getting your way is all that counts right?

Except they weren't lied to. At least not by the President.

Those policies were sold after the law was enacted by providers that knew full well they'd be swapping them out and blaming the law.

Bull fucking shit they weren't,he repeated the same lie as all you other suck holes have repeated.

Your kind of low life know no bounds in your shallow immoral blubbering do you??

Methinks you have defined low life. You may be too dumb, NO, you are that dumb and probably don't understand how your post defines you.

 

[Rozman]

So millions of people who had insurance lost it.
Because millions of people did not have insurance.
Now those that had insurance lose it and are forced to get insurance again.
And are forced to pay more,for insurance coverage that they don't really want like maternity
and prenatal stuff.

And the left says tuff shit to those that had insurance and lost it.

Who are you people?

 

[Rozman]

Millions lose their coverage.
Maybe a few hundred thousand sign up.
And the left tout it as a huge success....

What a joke...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

ZOMG!!!!! 6 MM Lost their insurance and 250,000, many of who are also Obama Twitter followers, signed up!

That's so successful!

Can't you feel the drama?!

The biggest campaign cry from the GOP is beginning to slip away. If the system is working better and better into 2014, and the enrollment increases dramatically, then it is going to be very hard for the GOP to use the ACA in its congressional campaigns.

Frank, you are carrying the Republican banner. I expect nothing less from you.

You do realize you're defending an already proven lie?

 

[JimH52]

Question for Republicans

After all these people sign up, how are you going to run on taking it away from them in 2014?

Got something better to offer?

Maybe Boehner standing up to the RW loons is the first step. If the GOP would stand up and say, "if there are problems with the law, let's fix them together" Well then maybe we could see something good come out of this. Instead, to this point, their position is.....KILL OBAMACARE!

They need a new tune.

 

[JimH52]

Millions lose their coverage.
Maybe a few hundred thousand sign up.
And the left tout it as a huge success....

What a joke...

Let me see a link to the "millions"

 

[Indeependent]

Question for Republicans

After all these people sign up, how are you going to run on taking it away from them in 2014?

Got something better to offer?

Maybe Boehner standing up to the RW loons is the first step. If the GOP would stand up and say, "if there are problems with the law, let's fix them together" Well then maybe we could see something good come out of this. Instead, to this point, their position is.....KILL OBAMACARE!

They need a new tune.

Both parties follow the poles; there are very few righteous dudes in the room.