Obamacare train pulls safely into the station

[Dot Com]

ODS sufferers felt like this, no doubt, after the 7,000,000 enrollment mark was met

 

[Politico]

Hey! Stop that train! It left us all behind!

 

[billyerock1991]

That may be your interpretation but it isn't factual. The whole point is that everyone have health insurance and therefore less free loaders. The other "whole point" is that poor people have access to the health care system.

Bullshit.

The ENTIRE point is force everyone into it, the theory being that the more in the pool the longer they system will stay solvent.

Who's "theory" is that? Sounds like something from the Sean Hannity Show.

antares is a paid political poster ...you are wasting your time with that moron... Dblack well he's fun to make fun of

 

[billyerock1991]

Bullshit.

The ENTIRE point is force everyone into it, the theory being that the more in the pool the longer they system will stay solvent.

Who's "theory" is that? Sounds like something from the Sean Hannity Show.

It's how Obama and the Democrats described the bill. Take it up with them if you disagree.

its how you dumb fucks discribe it ....
1) you don't have to sign up for health care its your choice
2) its not a mandate as you say it is
3) you don't get a fine and you aren't threaten with jail
4) its a tax ...
why would I take it up with the dems ??? you're the one that is distorting what it is... you have no Idea what it is ... you don't even know how to sign up for health care ... or not sign up ... you just hear one of your right wing whack jobs, then off the cliff you go ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Bullshit.

The ENTIRE point is force everyone into it, the theory being that the more in the pool the longer they system will stay solvent.

Who's "theory" is that? Sounds like something from the Sean Hannity Show.

Your willful ignorance is not my problem, you and LL are perfect for each other.

translation Anteres (the paid poster) couldn't refute your post ... the guys at the political paid poster union will be angry at him.... oh wait they ain't got no union

 

[billyerock1991]

All we know for certain is Obama lied about keeping your plan and built the world's most expensive website that can't tell if anyone bought the product

can you say Broken record ??? sure we can...

 

[billyerock1991]

Who's "theory" is that? Sounds like something from the Sean Hannity Show.

Likely because it is from the Sean Hannity Show, it’s where most on the right get their ‘facts,’ as opposed to actually reading the Act.

And the fact remains that the ACA doesn’t ‘force’ anyone to do anything – it’s a rightwing myth contrived at the advent of the Act’s drafting.

See counselor YOU have never read the Bill, not once.

SEC. 5000A. REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.

Requirement?

a) Requirement To Maintain Minimum Essential Coverage- An applicable individual shall for each month beginning after 2013 ensure that the individual, and any dependent of the individual who is an applicable individual, is covered under minimum essential coverage for such month.

Now maybe it's just me...but I am pretty sure that this Bill is a "Legal" document that does not use words carelessly......you people are idiots.

why do you take out one section in the bill the say see??? you make a fool of your self trying to justify your reason ... your like the person who says "look up in the sky" then you don't say" its a bird its a plane its superman "
why do you distort the bill all the time

 

[billyerock1991]

Who's "theory" is that? Sounds like something from the Sean Hannity Show.

Likely because it is from the Sean Hannity Show, it’s where most on the right get their ‘facts,’ as opposed to actually reading the Act.

And the fact remains that the ACA doesn’t ‘force’ anyone to do anything – it’s a rightwing myth contrived at the advent of the Act’s drafting.

See counselor YOU have never read the Bill, not once.

SEC. 5000A. REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.

Requirement?

a) Requirement To Maintain Minimum Essential Coverage- An applicable individual shall for each month beginning after 2013 ensure that the individual, and any dependent of the individual who is an applicable individual, is covered under minimum essential coverage for such month.

Now maybe it's just me...but I am pretty sure that this Bill is a "Legal" document that does not use words carelessly......you people are idiots.

‘‘Sec. 5000A. Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage.
‘‘SEC. 5000A. REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.
‘‘(a) REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.—
An applicable individual shall for each month beginning
after 2013 ensure that the individual, and any dependent of the
individual who is an applicable individual, is covered under minimum
essential coverage for such month.
‘‘(b) SHARED RESPONSIBILITY PAYMENT.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—If an applicable individual fails to meet
the requirement of subsection (a) for 1 or more months during
any calendar year beginning after 2013, then, except as provided
in subsection (d), there is hereby imposed a penalty
with respect to the individual in the amount determined under
subsection (c).
‘‘(2) INCLUSION WITH RETURN.—Any penalty imposed by
this section with respect to any month shall be included with
a taxpayer’s return under chapter 1 for the taxable year which
includes such month.
‘‘(3) PAYMENT OF PENALTY.—If an individual with respect
to whom a penalty is imposed by this section for any month—
‘‘(A) is a dependent (as defined in section 152) of
another taxpayer for the other taxpayer’s taxable year
including such month, such other taxpayer shall be liable
for such penalty, or
‘‘(B) files a joint return for the taxable year including
such month, such individual and the spouse of such individual
shall be jointly liable for such penalty.
‘‘(c) AMOUNT OF PENALTY.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The penalty determined under this subsection
for any month with respect to any individual is an
amount equal to 1⁄12 of the applicable dollar amount for the
calendar year.
‘‘(2) DOLLAR LIMITATION.—The amount of the penalty
imposed by this section on any taxpayer for any taxable year
with respect to all individuals for whom the taxpayer is liable
under subsection (b)(3) shall not exceed an amount equal to
300 percent the applicable dollar amount (determined without
H. R. 3590—127
regard to paragraph (3)(C)) for the calendar year with or within
which the taxable year ends.
‘‘(3) APPLICABLE DOLLAR AMOUNT.—For purposes of paragraph
(1)—
‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in subparagraphs
(B) and (C), the applicable dollar amount is $750.
‘‘(B) PHASE IN.—The applicable dollar amount is $95
for 2014 and $350 for 2015.
‘‘(C) SPECIAL RULE FOR INDIVIDUALS UNDER AGE 18.—
If an applicable individual has not attained the age of
18 as of the beginning of a month, the applicable dollar
amount with respect to such individual for the month shall
be equal to one-half of the applicable dollar amount for
the calendar year in which the month occurs.
‘‘(D) INDEXING OF AMOUNT.—In the case of any calendar
year beginning after 2016, the applicable dollar amount
shall be equal to $750, increased by an amount equal
to—
‘‘(i) $750, multiplied by
‘‘(ii) the cost-of-living adjustment determined
under section 1(f)(3) for the calendar year, determined
by substituting ‘calendar year 2015’ for ‘calendar year
1992’ in subparagraph (B) thereof.
If the amount of any increase under clause (i) is not a
multiple of $50, such increase shall be rounded to the
next lowest multiple of $50.
‘‘(4) TERMS RELATING TO INCOME AND FAMILIES.—For purposes
of this section—
‘‘(A) FAMILY SIZE.—The family size involved with
respect to any taxpayer shall be equal to the number of
individuals for whom the taxpayer is allowed a deduction
under section 151 (relating to allowance of deduction for
personal exemptions) for the taxable year.
‘‘(B) HOUSEHOLD INCOME.—The term ‘household
income’ means, with respect to any taxpayer for any taxable
year, an amount equal to the sum of—
‘‘(i) the modified gross income of the taxpayer,
plus
‘‘(ii) the aggregate modified gross incomes of all
other individuals who—
‘‘(I) were taken into account in determining
the taxpayer’s family size under paragraph (1),
and
‘‘(II) were required to file a return of tax
imposed by section 1 for the taxable year.
‘‘(C) MODIFIED GROSS INCOME.—The term ‘modified
gross income’ means gross income—
‘‘(i) decreased by the amount of any deduction
allowable under paragraph (1), (3), (4), or (10) of section
62(a),
‘‘(ii) increased by the amount of interest received
or accrued during the taxable year which is exempt
from tax imposed by this chapter, and
‘‘(iii) determined without regard to sections 911,
931, and 933.
‘‘(D) POVERTY LINE.—

 

[billyerock1991]

Nutters have a habit of making ridiculous arguments.....getting insulted for them....and then whining about it. Happens every day here.

Hint.....the insults will stop when the ridiculous arguments stop.

If it's all you got...

I suppose it's a lot easier than making your case.

LL takes pot shots from the sideline, it never has ANYTHING pertinent to add to ANY conversation.

fancy that the pot calling the kettle black ... what have you ever offered accept lies and distortions but that's what paid posters do

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And by "enrolled" we mean people who visited the website

 

[billyerock1991]

And by "enrolled" we mean people who visited the website

nooooooooooooooo idiot!!!! it means people who have sign up for health care and has paid ... that's what "enrolled" means

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Abort ObamaCare!

 

[billyerock1991]

Abort ObamaCare!

what does one expect from one who thinks that a tax cheat is his hero.... a racist is your hero .... I guess you tax cheats and racist have to stick together, cause ya ain't got no union to protect ya

 

[dblack]

Billypoop

 

[Dot Com]

Abort ObamaCare!

Billypoop

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^ THIS is what passes for rw debate these days This is why you idiots keep getting your asses handed to you on a silver platter in the Senate & POTUS races

 

[dblack]

Abort ObamaCare!

Billypoop

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^ THIS is what passes for rw debate these days This is why you idiots keep getting your asses handed to you on a silver platter in the Senate & POTUS races

Just for kicks, quote the posts we were responding to, and defend them likewise. - if billy's posts are your idea of debate, I'll pass.

 

[MeBelle]

Abort ObamaCare!

Billypoop

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^ THIS is what passes for rw debate these days

^^This is what passes for left-winger trolling ^^
You merely hang on other people's coat tails.

If billy is in your league, I'd be ashamed.

Dottie, I'll give you a chance to debate, rather than troll.

Read the threads...lot's of debate, filled with facts, for you to digest.

Then start a thread where we can have a debate?

Or are you too scared?

I'm gonna go with... you're too scared to debate [MENTION=28132]Dot Com[/MENTION]

 

[billyerock1991]

Abort ObamaCare!

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^ THIS is what passes for rw debate these days This is why you idiots keep getting your asses handed to you on a silver platter in the Senate & POTUS races

Just for kicks, quote the posts we were responding to, and defend them likewise. - if billy's posts are your idea of debate, I'll pass.

hey, I'm just doing what dbklack does ... debate !!! BWA HAHAHAHAHAhAHA he doesn't know the meaning of the word ... make a point and all they do is attack or they try to insult you ...then when they get their little asses kicked by me they whine about it ... ... dblack is nothing more then a little whiner when he's exposed for lying ...hell he didn't respond to what I posted for antares ... WHY because it was showing what a liar Antares is ... his side kick ...every time I show these ass holes a part of the bill that they said that wasn't there, they come back with poor billypoop ... as if its supposed to piss me off ... all it has shown me is what morons they really are ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Abort ObamaCare!

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^ THIS is what passes for rw debate these days This is why you idiots keep getting your asses handed to you on a silver platter in the Senate & POTUS races

Just for kicks, quote the posts we were responding to, and defend them likewise. - if billy's posts are your idea of debate, I'll pass.

did you respond to this one Dblack???? noooooooooooooooo

why do you take out one section in the bill the say see??? you make a fool of your self trying to justify your reason ... your like the person who says "look up in the sky" then you don't say" its a bird its a plane its superman "
why do you distort the bill all the time

 

[billyerock1991]

Abort ObamaCare!

The Following User Says Thank You to dblack For This Useful Post:
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^ THIS is what passes for rw debate these days This is why you idiots keep getting your asses handed to you on a silver platter in the Senate & POTUS races

Just for kicks, quote the posts we were responding to, and defend them likewise. - if billy's posts are your idea of debate, I'll pass.

did you rerspond the the actual law dblkack???? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

‘‘Sec. 5000A. Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage.
‘‘SEC. 5000A. REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.
‘‘(a) REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM ESSENTIAL COVERAGE.—
An applicable individual shall for each month beginning
after 2013 ensure that the individual, and any dependent of the
individual who is an applicable individual, is covered under minimum
essential coverage for such month.
‘‘(b) SHARED RESPONSIBILITY PAYMENT.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—If an applicable individual fails to meet
the requirement of subsection (a) for 1 or more months during
any calendar year beginning after 2013, then, except as provided
in subsection (d), there is hereby imposed a penalty
with respect to the individual in the amount determined under
subsection (c).
‘‘(2) INCLUSION WITH RETURN.—Any penalty imposed by
this section with respect to any month shall be included with
a taxpayer’s return under chapter 1 for the taxable year which
includes such month.
‘‘(3) PAYMENT OF PENALTY.—If an individual with respect
to whom a penalty is imposed by this section for any month—
‘‘(A) is a dependent (as defined in section 152) of
another taxpayer for the other taxpayer’s taxable year
including such month, such other taxpayer shall be liable
for such penalty, or
‘‘(B) files a joint return for the taxable year including
such month, such individual and the spouse of such individual
shall be jointly liable for such penalty.
‘‘(c) AMOUNT OF PENALTY.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The penalty determined under this subsection
for any month with respect to any individual is an
amount equal to 1⁄12 of the applicable dollar amount for the
calendar year.
‘‘(2) DOLLAR LIMITATION.—The amount of the penalty
imposed by this section on any taxpayer for any taxable year
with respect to all individuals for whom the taxpayer is liable
under subsection (b)(3) shall not exceed an amount equal to
300 percent the applicable dollar amount (determined without
H. R. 3590—127
regard to paragraph (3)(C)) for the calendar year with or within
which the taxable year ends.
‘‘(3) APPLICABLE DOLLAR AMOUNT.—For purposes of paragraph
(1)—
‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in subparagraphs
(B) and (C), the applicable dollar amount is $750.
‘‘(B) PHASE IN.—The applicable dollar amount is $95
for 2014 and $350 for 2015.
‘‘(C) SPECIAL RULE FOR INDIVIDUALS UNDER AGE 18.—
If an applicable individual has not attained the age of
18 as of the beginning of a month, the applicable dollar
amount with respect to such individual for the month shall
be equal to one-half of the applicable dollar amount for
the calendar year in which the month occurs.
‘‘(D) INDEXING OF AMOUNT.—In the case of any calendar
year beginning after 2016, the applicable dollar amount
shall be equal to $750, increased by an amount equal
to—
‘‘(i) $750, multiplied by
‘‘(ii) the cost-of-living adjustment determined
under section 1(f)(3) for the calendar year, determined
by substituting ‘calendar year 2015’ for ‘calendar year
1992’ in subparagraph (B) thereof.
If the amount of any increase under clause (i) is not a
multiple of $50, such increase shall be rounded to the
next lowest multiple of $50.
‘‘(4) TERMS RELATING TO INCOME AND FAMILIES.—For purposes
of this section—
‘‘(A) FAMILY SIZE.—The family size involved with
respect to any taxpayer shall be equal to the number of
individuals for whom the taxpayer is allowed a deduction
under section 151 (relating to allowance of deduction for
personal exemptions) for the taxable year.
‘‘(B) HOUSEHOLD INCOME.—The term ‘household
income’ means, with respect to any taxpayer for any taxable
year, an amount equal to the sum of—
‘‘(i) the modified gross income of the taxpayer,
plus
‘‘(ii) the aggregate modified gross incomes of all
other individuals who—
‘‘(I) were taken into account in determining
the taxpayer’s family size under paragraph (1),
and
‘‘(II) were required to file a return of tax
imposed by section 1 for the taxable year.
‘‘(C) MODIFIED GROSS INCOME.—The term ‘modified
gross income’ means gross income—
‘‘(i) decreased by the amount of any deduction
allowable under paragraph (1), (3), (4), or (10) of section
62(a),
‘‘(ii) increased by the amount of interest received
or accrued during the taxable year which is exempt
from tax imposed by this chapter, and
‘‘(iii) determined without regard to sections 911,
931, and 933.
‘‘(D) POVERTY LINE.—