Elon Musk indicates he'll donate to Rep. Thomas Massie

[Billiejeens]

If Elon starts a new party, you bet your ass I'll join it.

We have a binary system.

 

[TemplarKormac]

We have a binary system.

But that system isn't sacrosanct. One party is just as susceptible to death as the other. All it takes is a groundswell of support from people who see the system as having abandoned their will.

 

[mudwhistle]

Do you even know what he's voting against?

He voted Yes on a lot. Here's the link.

I know what he's voting against.

Progress.

Massie is an extremist.

He expects perfect legislation every time. It's like he's living in an alternate reality.

 

[JWBooth]

Progress, in politics, is defined as let’s piss away a buttload more money on specious nonsense

 

[Billiejeens]

Progress, in politics, is defined as let’s piss away a buttload more money on specious nonsense

Obviously, there is a lot of misconception about this bill.

 

[YoursTruly]

I know what he's voting against.

Progress.

Massie is an extremist.

He expects perfect legislation every time. It's like he's living in an alternate reality.

Trillions of $$$$ increased spending, when we're $36 trillion in debt, isn't progress, RINO.

The RINO reality that you want him to live in is going to destroy the USD, hand the worlds reserve currency over to BRICS (sooner than expected) and keep companies from coming back to the USA.

You'll get your measly tax cut. But the inflation and loss of USD value is going to eat it all up and then some. Just like his overspending did last time. Just like Biden's did. And Obama's did. And W's did.
It's the same retarded circle jerk our politicians put us through since Reagan.

 

[YoursTruly]

But that system isn't sacrosanct. One party is just as susceptible to death as the other. All it takes is a groundswell of support from people who see the system as having abandoned their will.

There's still too many political loyalist for much of groundswell right now. But if this BBB passes, Elon has said he's going to start a new political party.
That's good, because the GOP have abandoned their conservative roots. The left is just whack with all their BS. The LP still has too many lefties. And the constitution party is all about religion.

 

[YoursTruly]

We have a binary system.

We have a bunch of trans-conservatives. You know, RINO's who only identify as conservatives.

 

[YoursTruly]

So what has Massie done to win over the 90%? Playing the "if" game is just another way of kicking the can down the road.

There is no winning over that 90% of the RINO's. They're as f*cked up as the democrats. And just as corrupt.

 

[YoursTruly]

Wrong. Those are your words. They aren’t “other” words for anything I suggested, you idiot.

You’re quite simplistic. The problem is massive and it ain’t gonna get fixed overnight. Huge problems take time to address. And one of the problems is that no cure can possibly work if the disruptions it will cause result in the abandonment of the effort to use it.

I see that you’re too simple-minded to realize that it is true that “compromise” is not always a bad word. Nevertheless, as cool as I find Massie, I believe it would benefit Trump’s efforts (and thereby help all Americans) if he could find his way clear to seeking agreement with MAGA on this effort.

Yes it is that simple. This isn't 4D chess. All those factions of our government that spend too much, waste too much, owned by too many lobbyist and special interest, expose them and make them all public.
Republicans don't vote for the GOP to increase government and spending.
But they damn sure come up with a lot of excuses for when they do.
Better than the other guy
Just wait and see how it turns out
Trump has a plan
blah blah blah blah blah.. It's one excuse after another, just to keep from admitting they were wrong. That they were duped again.

 

[YoursTruly]

Obviously, there is a lot of misconception about this bill.

Like what?

 

[Billiejeens]

Trillions of $$$$ increased spending, when we're $36 trillion in debt, isn't progress, RINO.

The RINO reality that you want him to live in is going to destroy the USD, hand the worlds reserve currency over to BRICS (sooner than expected) and keep companies from coming back to the USA.

You'll get your measly tax cut. But the inflation and loss of USD value is going to eat it all up and then some. Just like his overspending did last time. Just like Biden's did. And Obama's did. And W's did.
It's the same retarded circle jerk our politicians put us through since Reagan.

A lot of confusion

most of that is not true.

 

[BackAgain]

Yes it is that simple. This isn't 4D chess. All those factions of our government that spend too much, waste too much, owned by too many lobbyist and special interest, expose them and make them all public.
Republicans don't vote for the GOP to increase government and spending.
But they damn sure come up with a lot of excuses for when they do.
Better than the other guy
Just wait and see how it turns out
Trump has a plan
blah blah blah blah blah.. It's one excuse after another, just to keep from admitting they were wrong. That they were duped again.

You’re entitled to your own supported feelings.

But having them doesn’t make you right.

Of course no conservative wants any addition to our debt. But it’s akin to trying to quit the habit of smoking cigarettes. Cold turkey seems like an obvious solution except for the fact that, on balance, it doesn’t work.

Similarly, our nation has essentially become addicted to spending money we don’t actually have. Don’t and I agree that we want to break the addiction? I assume you’re sincere in that. I sure am.

What we disagree about is methodology. I am tolerant of the notion that it will take some time —!in order to avoid the pitfalls of trying to do it overnight. Cold turkey really doesn’t work.

 

[YoursTruly]

 

[YoursTruly]

You’re entitled to your own supported feelings.

It's not feelings. It's common sense. Just because the R & D's have complicated everything, doesn't mean there's not a simple solution.

Of course no conservative wants any addition to our debt. But it’s akin to trying to quit the habit of smoking cigarettes. Cold turkey seems like an obvious solution except for the fact that, on balance, it doesn’t work.

No it's not. It's akin to opposing Trump, Johnson and this retarded RINO infestation that's killing the GOP.

Similarly, our nation has essentially become addicted to spending money we don’t actually have. Don’t and I agree that we want to break the addiction? I assume you’re sincere in that. I sure am.

So you go along with it. That's the same as supporting it.

What we disagree about is methodology. I am tolerant of the notion that it will take some time —!in order to avoid the pitfalls of trying to do it overnight. Cold turkey really doesn’t work.

Sure, it's going to take some time. But it has to start somewhere. Trump and his RINO's haven't even started. They're not even trying to slow it down. They ONLY thing they're doing it convincing his supporters that they are.

Even if all the GOP congressmen were replaced by fiscal conservatives, it would still take a long time to fix things.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Amash was a great congressman, but then he voted for dumb Don’s impeachment. Don bring Don, did exactly what he is doing to Massey to Amash. Amash lost his seat.

Hopefully the same doesn’t befall Massey. He’s one of the few good incorruptible guys in Congress.

Then he has no place in this current corrupt disaster administration 2.0.

 

[BackAgain]

It's not feelings. It's common sense. Just because the R & D's have complicated everything, doesn't mean there's not a simple solution.



No it's not. It's akin to opposing Trump, Johnson and this retarded RINO infestation that's killing the GOP.



So you go along with it. That's the same as supporting it.



Sure, it's going to take some time. But it has to start somewhere. Trump and his RINO's haven't even started. They're not even trying to slow it down. They ONLY thing they're doing it convincing his supporters that they are.

Even if all the GOP congressmen were replaced by fiscal conservatives, it would still take a long time to fix things.

No. It’s feelings.

 

[Billiejeens]

This piece of shit can't get out of office quickly enough.

Thom Tillis may be leaving, but he’s leaving a trail of political destruction that rivals that of an EF-5 tornado. The North Carolina Republican struck out: he had hoped the North Carolina legislature would bail him out over some issues regarding Medicaid funding, but state Republicans rebuffed him, urging him to pass the bill. He tried to nuke this bill, the president’s primary legislative objective, tried to sink Pete Hegseth’s secretary of defense nomination, and scuttled Ed Martin’s nomination to be DC Attorney.

 

[YoursTruly]

No. It’s feelings.

If that's your excuse to dismiss the facts...... Knock yourself out pal.

Trump and his RINO's aren't even try to slow the spending and the swamp train down.

 

[JWBooth]