Electoral college mat

GHook93

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2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map

19 Democratic States:
227 electoral votes
Need 43
California, New York, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Washington State, Minnesota,Massachusetts, Maryland, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Oregon, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Maine, Hawaii, Vermont, Delaware and the District of Columbia

23 Republicans States:
191 electoral votes
Need 79
Texas, Georgia, Arizona, Tennessee, Indiana, Missouri, South Carolina, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas, Mississippi, Utah, Nebraska, West Virginia, Idaho, Alaska, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming.

So again it comes down to the swing states:
CO - 9
IA - 6
FL - 29
NC - 15
NH - 4
NV - 6
OH - 18
PA - 20
VA - 13

Republican side:
Much harder road to victory. They need these 5 states: FL, OH, VA, CO and NC. VA was traditional red and I think it will swing red without the Obama effect. NC is a red leaning state. Blue collar workers are supporting Trump with the promise of taking on China, NAFTA and illegal aliens, OH is filled with people who support these positions. Not to mention Trump received some Union support during the primaries which was unheard of by a Republican. In FL if Trump picks a popular Floridian like Rubio he has a great shot at taking FL. CO will be toughest win, but many people won't admit it but illegal immigrants are hurting their state. That might enough to swing it.

Democrats side:
They have a much easier road they must win all of the rest and pull one of the FL, OH, VA, CO or NC.
Let's face it NV, NH and PA are blue states. IA swings so Clinton will have to appeal to rural working class voters. Without the Obama effect VA and NC will be tough to swing blue. Will the illegal immigrant vote swing FL or CO, that is the reason Dems sell out the country to illegals so we will see. With Trump getting even some Union support OH will be tough for Clinton to win.


Bottomline this election isn't as much in the bag as I previous thought or the Democrats consistently tell us it is! Esp since Trump might even make some blue states like NJ, CT, WI, RI, MA, MI, MY, DL and even NY competitive. Clinton will not turn any red states purple.

I know the Democrats wished for Trump, but careful what you wish for Dems. The race to the middle will be much easier for Trump than other candidate!
 
Without momentum going into the convention Hillary will have a much harder time winning and Trump's scorched Earth tactics she will win an empty victory.
 
The Democrats have won every single statewide vote in Virginia since 2010, and won a good number before that as well. It's undeniable at this point Virginia is undergoing a partisan shift statewide, and Obama has nothing to do with it.

Trump is not winning Wisconsin period. He has yet to get a single poll above 40% and Clinton regularly gets into the 49-51% range. Wisconsin is not even going to be remotely competitive this election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump is heading into this election as THE weakest nominee in modern history, he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the level of party support Romney or McCain had, or Bush for that matter, and that's just with "Republicans". If you look at the broader General Election electorate the picture looks downright dire.

Hispanics downright HATE Trump, and Clinton polls great with both women and blacks. Trump's unfavorables are significantly worse than Hillary's and Trump has no ground game strategy to speak of.
 
The Democrats have won every single statewide vote in Virginia since 2010, and won a good number before that as well. It's undeniable at this point Virginia is undergoing a partisan shift statewide, and Obama has nothing to do with it.

Trump is not winning Wisconsin period. He has yet to get a single poll above 40% and Clinton regularly gets into the 49-51% range. Wisconsin is not even going to be remotely competitive this election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump is heading into this election as THE weakest nominee in modern history, he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the level of party support Romney or McCain had, or Bush for that matter, and that's just with "Republicans". If you look at the broader General Election electorate the picture looks downright dire.

Hispanics downright HATE Trump, and Clinton polls great with both women and blacks. Trump's unfavorables are significantly worse than Hillary's and Trump has no ground game strategy to speak of.

May your dreams come true. With the tax-exempt yields higher in most blue states than 30 year taxable Treasuries and climbing there may not be any solvent blue states by the end of the next president's term. Hillary will not take the house and may not take the senate. She will lose the senate big time in the midterms.
 
The Democrats have won every single statewide vote in Virginia since 2010, and won a good number before that as well. It's undeniable at this point Virginia is undergoing a partisan shift statewide, and Obama has nothing to do with it.

Trump is not winning Wisconsin period. He has yet to get a single poll above 40% and Clinton regularly gets into the 49-51% range. Wisconsin is not even going to be remotely competitive this election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump is heading into this election as THE weakest nominee in modern history, he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the level of party support Romney or McCain had, or Bush for that matter, and that's just with "Republicans". If you look at the broader General Election electorate the picture looks downright dire.

Hispanics downright HATE Trump, and Clinton polls great with both women and blacks. Trump's unfavorables are significantly worse than Hillary's and Trump has no ground game strategy to speak of.

May your dreams come true. With the tax-exempt yields higher in most blue states than 30 year taxable Treasuries and climbing there may not be any solvent blue states by the end of the next president's term. Hillary will not take the house and may not take the senate. She will lose the senate big time in the midterms.

Yeah cause so many of your doomsday scenarios actually become a reality...oh wait none of them do.
 
The Democrats have won every single statewide vote in Virginia since 2010, and won a good number before that as well. It's undeniable at this point Virginia is undergoing a partisan shift statewide, and Obama has nothing to do with it.

Trump is not winning Wisconsin period. He has yet to get a single poll above 40% and Clinton regularly gets into the 49-51% range. Wisconsin is not even going to be remotely competitive this election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump is heading into this election as THE weakest nominee in modern history, he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the level of party support Romney or McCain had, or Bush for that matter, and that's just with "Republicans". If you look at the broader General Election electorate the picture looks downright dire.

Hispanics downright HATE Trump, and Clinton polls great with both women and blacks. Trump's unfavorables are significantly worse than Hillary's and Trump has no ground game strategy to speak of.
First the 2010 election was lost because a Libertarian 3rd party candidate took 5% of the vote. Obama's second term let to the victory their. Blacks will not turn out again they way they did in the past.

WI is part of the 227 the Democrats start with. So your point is moot l.

Wrong, many Hispanics hate Trump. He just need this get 35% and get a bigger share of the white union vote.
 
The Democrats have won every single statewide vote in Virginia since 2010, and won a good number before that as well. It's undeniable at this point Virginia is undergoing a partisan shift statewide, and Obama has nothing to do with it.

Trump is not winning Wisconsin period. He has yet to get a single poll above 40% and Clinton regularly gets into the 49-51% range. Wisconsin is not even going to be remotely competitive this election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump is heading into this election as THE weakest nominee in modern history, he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the level of party support Romney or McCain had, or Bush for that matter, and that's just with "Republicans". If you look at the broader General Election electorate the picture looks downright dire.

Hispanics downright HATE Trump, and Clinton polls great with both women and blacks. Trump's unfavorables are significantly worse than Hillary's and Trump has no ground game strategy to speak of.
First the 2010 election was lost because a Libertarian 3rd party candidate took 5% of the vote. Obama's second term let to the victory their. Blacks will not turn out again they way they did in the past.

WI is part of the 227 the Democrats start with. So your point is moot l.

Wrong, many Hispanics hate Trump. He just need this get 35% and get a bigger share of the white union vote.

I assume you mean the 2013 election. It's false to assume all the libertarian's votes would've gone to the Republicans. Even still it doesn't matter, Democrats hold ALL statewide offices in Virginia...there is absolutely nothing to suggest Obama has anything to do with the state's PVI shift.

Blacks turned out in the same percentage in 2010 and 2014 as they did in 2008 and 2012. It's a very broad assumption that they'll just suddenly drop down to 2004 levels. Clinton might lose a few percentage points here and there but that largely won't matter.

All this is really just chasing around the issue that Trump is at a very severe disadvantage going into 2016...more so than any other modern nominee.
 
Trump loses the traditional red states of AZ and ARK as well as every swing state. Clinton easily wins 377-400 electoral votes.
 
The Democrats have won every single statewide vote in Virginia since 2010, and won a good number before that as well. It's undeniable at this point Virginia is undergoing a partisan shift statewide, and Obama has nothing to do with it.

Trump is not winning Wisconsin period. He has yet to get a single poll above 40% and Clinton regularly gets into the 49-51% range. Wisconsin is not even going to be remotely competitive this election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump is heading into this election as THE weakest nominee in modern history, he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the level of party support Romney or McCain had, or Bush for that matter, and that's just with "Republicans". If you look at the broader General Election electorate the picture looks downright dire.

Hispanics downright HATE Trump, and Clinton polls great with both women and blacks. Trump's unfavorables are significantly worse than Hillary's and Trump has no ground game strategy to speak of.

May your dreams come true. With the tax-exempt yields higher in most blue states than 30 year taxable Treasuries and climbing there may not be any solvent blue states by the end of the next president's term. Hillary will not take the house and may not take the senate. She will lose the senate big time in the midterms.

Yeah cause so many of your doomsday scenarios actually become a reality...oh wait none of them do.
You mean like CA has been in out and of insolvency since the 90s and IL has been in continuous insolvency for the same period has not happened? reality is a matter of your opinion? Run do not walk to a mental health professional.
 

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