Driverless cars are coming.

[Weatherman2020]

There is one of those in my neighborhood! God forbid you ever get behind one of those pieces of shit! I have never seen one that can maintain highway speed! You can time their acceleration from 0-60 with a sundial, not that it ever could possibly reach 60 mph. On a 55 mph speed limit, I think about 47 mph is about the best I have seen them do.

If one ever got out on the interstate, I bet that some truck driver would be picking the pieces out of his grill at the next truck stop and washing the blood off with a hose.

That is what you get with cheap. The Tesla can do 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds with top speeds of 150+ mph.

Yep! It's a good thing I am already working on my second millions so I can afford one!

I gave up on my first million years ago!

And the more economical versions are coming.

Yeah, that's why a Ford F-150 that is 2-3 years old now sells above $30,000. Those economical versions are right around the corner, but the driverless car can't see it and will run right smack dab into it because I can't make it stop!

If the driverless vehicle's cameras and sensors don't work, the car will not move. Someone else posted that they have 2 Teslas. His complaint is that the emergency braking happens too soon.

Oh good. The car won't move in the middle of a 70mph freeway.

 

[WinterBorn]

That is what you get with cheap. The Tesla can do 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds with top speeds of 150+ mph.

Yep! It's a good thing I am already working on my second millions so I can afford one!

I gave up on my first million years ago!

And the more economical versions are coming.

Yeah, that's why a Ford F-150 that is 2-3 years old now sells above $30,000. Those economical versions are right around the corner, but the driverless car can't see it and will run right smack dab into it because I can't make it stop!

If the driverless vehicle's cameras and sensors don't work, the car will not move. Someone else posted that they have 2 Teslas. His complaint is that the emergency braking happens too soon.

Oh good. The car won't move in the middle of a 70mph freeway.

Oh good, now you can explain how all the sensors and cameras suddenly failed at the same time on the 70mph freeway?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yep! It's a good thing I am already working on my second millions so I can afford one!

I gave up on my first million years ago!

And the more economical versions are coming.

Yeah, that's why a Ford F-150 that is 2-3 years old now sells above $30,000. Those economical versions are right around the corner, but the driverless car can't see it and will run right smack dab into it because I can't make it stop!

If the driverless vehicle's cameras and sensors don't work, the car will not move. Someone else posted that they have 2 Teslas. His complaint is that the emergency braking happens too soon.

Oh good. The car won't move in the middle of a 70mph freeway.

Oh good, now you can explain how all the sensors and cameras suddenly failed at the same time on the 70mph freeway?

The inputs all go to the same circuit board, Einstein.

 

[WinterBorn]

And the more economical versions are coming.

Yeah, that's why a Ford F-150 that is 2-3 years old now sells above $30,000. Those economical versions are right around the corner, but the driverless car can't see it and will run right smack dab into it because I can't make it stop!

If the driverless vehicle's cameras and sensors don't work, the car will not move. Someone else posted that they have 2 Teslas. His complaint is that the emergency braking happens too soon.

Oh good. The car won't move in the middle of a 70mph freeway.

Oh good, now you can explain how all the sensors and cameras suddenly failed at the same time on the 70mph freeway?

The inputs all go to the same circuit board, Einstein.

All the traffic lights in large areas are computerized, Einstein.
All the air traffic control radar is computerized, Einstein.

If the circuit board on the car goes out, there will, no doubt be a backup for emergencies.

And if a car stops now on a 70 mph freeway, you better have left space in front of you or you better be aware of where you will swerve. All the time.
If a truck blows a tire, you better be able to react and not be texting, under the influence, be tuning your radio, plugging in a new address in your GPS or trying to unwrap a hamburger.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm sorry! Who died and put those people in charge?

Where does it say anything about being in charge? They are making predictions. Based on advances in automotive technology.

You really have control issues, don't you?

It's called "freedom". Maybe they didn't teach that in Tuscaloosa.

Like I said in my last post, when I was a kid they predicted we would all have flying cars like in The Jetsons. How's that working out for you?

Yes, you have freedom. You can drive ANY kind of car you want on your property.

But to drive on public roads you have to have a drivers license, your car must be registered, your car must have a tag that must be lit at night and unobstructed, you must have proof of insurance, and the gov't can stop you at any time to check any of these. The gov't decides how fast you can go. And if you are caught going faster, it can take money from you. And the police close down entire sections of public roads if certain people will be traveling on them that day.

Yes, I know about freedom.

All of those laws were passed by our elected leaders. You talk as though it is a fait accompli. That's not freedom.

Look at some of the laws passed in the last 25 years. Do you think your grandfather would have expected to be caught on cameras and get traffic tickets thru the mail? Do you think your grandfather would have expected to be told he can't have a vegetable garden? Or collect rainwater? Driverless vehicles, at least, will make the roads safer and traffic less of a problem.

Yeah, how well did those traffic cams work out? I don't know a single place that still has them.

We have a new bridge up north across the Ohio with cameras that mail your toll bill to you if you don't have a transponder. So far, my daughter has driven across the bridge 6 times and never received a toll bill. Many people with the transponders drive the bridge daily since it opened and have never paid a dime in tolls. How long do you think we can afford that system if it doesn't collect the correct number of tolls?

As to the vegetable garden and the rainwater, I am the grandfather and they don't do that here because we are not libtards!

 

[strollingbones]

whats wrong with gardens and rainwater?

 

[WinterBorn]

whats wrong with gardens and rainwater?

Someplaces have made it illegal to collect rainwater. (Oregon? I think)

And other places have made gardening difficult or put rules against it all over.

 

[strollingbones]

and all that is brought to by the gop and its support of big farms....amf for one...but blame the liberals

 

[Old Rocks]

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

Would you drive your car on a road covered with snow and ice just 10 feet from a cliff? And does the roadside cliff not have a guard rail?

If I needed to get my family to the hospital, maybe yes.

If you think I would climb in a vehicle that I could not control in case of a system failure, also hell no!

As I said, you cannot idiot-proof a car. Somewhere out there is a bigger idiot than what they planned for!

If they make the cars so that I can control them in case of emergency and we have millions of passenger miles without any fatalities due to system errors, then maybe I will relax a little.

Are you familiar with all of the ship collisions the Navy had in the Pacific last year? One of the major causes listed was being overly reliant on technology. Just a little human intervention could have saved many sailor's lives and ruined careers.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

Would you drive your car on a road covered with snow and ice just 10 feet from a cliff? And does the roadside cliff not have a guard rail?

If I needed to get my family to the hospital, maybe yes.

If you think I would climb in a vehicle that I could not control in case of a system failure, also hell no!

As I said, you cannot idiot-proof a car. Somewhere out there is a bigger idiot than what they planned for!

If they make the cars so that I can control them in case of emergency and we have millions of passenger miles without any fatalities due to system errors, then maybe I will relax a little.

Are you familiar with all of the ship collisions the Navy had in the Pacific last year? One of the major causes listed was being overly reliant on technology. Just a little human intervention could have saved many sailor's lives and ruined careers.

Well, in 15 to 20 years there may well be places you can't drive. And another 20 or so after that, you may only be able to drive on private property or if you have special exemptions.

I am so glad that you think we have only 15 to 20 years of being a republic. We do elect representatives who vote on these decisions, don't we?

You act like the great Obamessiah will come back to rule over us as a dictator for life!

Personally, I am still waiting for my flying car I was promised as a kid.

It is here. But you cannot have a hundred thousand of these flying around with just human control. It would be raining carbon fiber. This is where there will have to be computer control.

Lilium

 

[Old Rocks]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

After they drive over cliffs, run into buildings and run over crowds of people the insurance will be too high for anyone to own one

People controlled autos do all of that at present with great abandon. And we still have auto insurance.

 

[Old Rocks]

whats wrong with gardens and rainwater?

Someplaces have made it illegal to collect rainwater. (Oregon? I think)

And other places have made gardening difficult or put rules against it all over.

Usually the gardening rules are put in by home owner associations. The rainwater rule has been modified so that you can collect rainwater off of your roof. What that involved was the original water rights rules, put in by your great-great- grandfathers, that stated that the first person to use the water on a water shed had first rights to that water. So the rain that falls on your land and runs off, belongs to someone downstream. You cannot do anything to impede that runoff, it is not yours. Impound that water, or do anything to change it's flow or degrade it, and you have broken the law, and face a lawsuit from those that own that water.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

After they drive over cliffs, run into buildings and run over crowds of people the insurance will be too high for anyone to own one

People controlled autos do all of that at present with great abandon. And we still have auto insurance.

People will be wishing that the car had a steering when it goes out of control.

 

[Old Rocks]

GM plans to release cars with no steering wheel in 2019

It is inevitable.

After they drive over cliffs, run into buildings and run over crowds of people the insurance will be too high for anyone to own one

People controlled autos do all of that at present with great abandon. And we still have auto insurance.

People will be wishing that the car had a steering when it goes out of control.

You mean like these people controlled vehicles?

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Some times GPS is wrong and the Driver does the smart thing and doesn't follow it's directions. Computers just can't make the same judgment calls that Humans can.

 

[petro]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

Soon after snow and ice my sensors on my jeep are covered and rendered useless forcing me to shut of reverse assist until I physically clean sensors.

 

[Desperado]

whats wrong with gardens and rainwater?

Someplaces have made it illegal to collect rainwater. (Oregon? I think)

And other places have made gardening difficult or put rules against it all over.

Nine states have laws restricting collection of rainwater, Oregon and Colorado to name two and they are not exactly havens for the GOP. The flack about the gardens was a HOA rule about not having your garden in the front yard and the rule was upheld by a local court.
Is collecting rainwater legal in your state?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yeah, that's why a Ford F-150 that is 2-3 years old now sells above $30,000. Those economical versions are right around the corner, but the driverless car can't see it and will run right smack dab into it because I can't make it stop!

If the driverless vehicle's cameras and sensors don't work, the car will not move. Someone else posted that they have 2 Teslas. His complaint is that the emergency braking happens too soon.

Oh good. The car won't move in the middle of a 70mph freeway.

Oh good, now you can explain how all the sensors and cameras suddenly failed at the same time on the 70mph freeway?

The inputs all go to the same circuit board, Einstein.

All the traffic lights in large areas are computerized, Einstein.
All the air traffic control radar is computerized, Einstein.

If the circuit board on the car goes out, there will, no doubt be a backup for emergencies.

And if a car stops now on a 70 mph freeway, you better have left space in front of you or you better be aware of where you will swerve. All the time.
If a truck blows a tire, you better be able to react and not be texting, under the influence, be tuning your radio, plugging in a new address in your GPS or trying to unwrap a hamburger.

Your lack of engineering knowledge and Leftardism is why you are so gullible.

Bay Area Air Traffic Disrupted / Flights grounded after radar broke down

Indian Air Traffic Control Radar Goes Down

 

[Weatherman2020]

Driverless cars will be like demolition derby

 

[Old Rocks]

whats wrong with gardens and rainwater?

Someplaces have made it illegal to collect rainwater. (Oregon? I think)

And other places have made gardening difficult or put rules against it all over.

Nine states have laws restricting collection of rainwater, Oregon and Colorado to name two and they are not exactly havens for the GOP. The flack about the gardens was a HOA rule about not having your garden in the front yard and the rule was upheld by a local court.
Is collecting rainwater legal in your state?

LOL Yes, nine. And four of them are Idaho, Ohio, Texas, and Utah.

 

[WinterBorn]

Driverless cars will be like demolition derby
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The cameras and ultrasonic sensors will see the train and the deer. They will react accordingly.

Plus, the car will never be under the influence of drugs or alcohol. The car will never be distracted. And the car will never be falling asleep.