Driverless cars are coming.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

 

[Desperado]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

 

[WinterBorn]

We know there cost already, Tesla has them right now. And, yes, such computers and computing power will make individual air transport possible.
Lilium

I own two Teslas with the latest driver assist technology. While it is a great tool for drivers, it is far from as good as a person driving.

For instance, if lane markings are new it will hold a lane. If the lane markings are old or covered by dirt the warning light will show for the driver to take over. Also construction zones where the lane marking have been moved, the car tends to follow the old markings if they weren't removed totally.

The emergency braking tends to brake too early.

Emergency braking goes too early? Hmmm, and so many of the naysayers were worried about the car not braking.

I already gave you a link to a Tesla that didn't brake at all because it couldn't "see" the semi traveling directly in front of it!

You simply cannot make anything idiotproof, because Mother Nature will always be able to find a bigger idiot!

And I told you that the driver ignored 5 warnings that there was a problem. Driverless cars will, no doubt, be programmed to pull over if something like this happens.

So if you have no way to control the car at all, what good will warning the occupant do? Give them time to kiss their ass goodbye?

My post was only 2 sentences and you couldn't read them both? Sounds like you are an auburn grad.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I own two Teslas with the latest driver assist technology. While it is a great tool for drivers, it is far from as good as a person driving.

For instance, if lane markings are new it will hold a lane. If the lane markings are old or covered by dirt the warning light will show for the driver to take over. Also construction zones where the lane marking have been moved, the car tends to follow the old markings if they weren't removed totally.

The emergency braking tends to brake too early.

Emergency braking goes too early? Hmmm, and so many of the naysayers were worried about the car not braking.

I already gave you a link to a Tesla that didn't brake at all because it couldn't "see" the semi traveling directly in front of it!

You simply cannot make anything idiotproof, because Mother Nature will always be able to find a bigger idiot!

And I told you that the driver ignored 5 warnings that there was a problem. Driverless cars will, no doubt, be programmed to pull over if something like this happens.

So if you have no way to control the car at all, what good will warning the occupant do? Give them time to kiss their ass goodbye?

My post was only 2 sentences and you couldn't read them both? Sounds like you are an auburn grad.

I read it. Your post was as nonsensical as anything else you posted. Why wan't that car already programmed to do just that?

Oops! Another failure to make the car idiot proof?

 

[Desperado]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

You do realize that 3 meters is equal to 9.84252 feet? That is not an exact location when talking about keeping a car in a lane.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

 

[WinterBorn]

Emergency braking goes too early? Hmmm, and so many of the naysayers were worried about the car not braking.

I already gave you a link to a Tesla that didn't brake at all because it couldn't "see" the semi traveling directly in front of it!

You simply cannot make anything idiotproof, because Mother Nature will always be able to find a bigger idiot!

And I told you that the driver ignored 5 warnings that there was a problem. Driverless cars will, no doubt, be programmed to pull over if something like this happens.

So if you have no way to control the car at all, what good will warning the occupant do? Give them time to kiss their ass goodbye?

My post was only 2 sentences and you couldn't read them both? Sounds like you are an auburn grad.

I read it. Your post was as nonsensical as anything else you posted. Why wan't that car already programmed to do just that?

Oops! Another failure to make the car idiot proof?

Because it was not designed to be a driverless car. It relies on the driver to respond. The driver did not respond. Not the car's fault.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

You do realize that 3 meters is equal to 9.84252 feet? That is not an exact location when talking about keeping a car in a lane.

And do you have X-ray vision to see the lane lines when they are covered by snow?

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

If the lane lines are completely covered, how do you stay in the lane?

I have no claim to be an expert and never have. But numerous experts in the field have said that they think there will be areas that are only open to driverless cars in 15 to 20 years.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think the programming of the carcan handle icy roas with the problems, it is the morality programming that I have doubts about
A self-driving car carrying a family of four on a rural two-lane highway spots a bouncing ball ahead. As the vehicle approaches a child runs out to retrieve the ball. Should the car risk its passengers’ lives by swerving to the side—where the edge of the road meets a steep cliff? Or should the car continue on its path, ensuring its passengers’ safety at the child’s expense? This scenario and many others pose moral and ethical dilemmas that carmakers, car buyers and regulators must address before vehicles should be given full autonomy, according to a study published Thursday inScience.

Driverless Cars Will Face Moral Dilemmas

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

Would you drive your car on a road covered with snow and ice just 10 feet from a cliff? And does the roadside cliff not have a guard rail?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

You do realize that 3 meters is equal to 9.84252 feet? That is not an exact location when talking about keeping a car in a lane.

And do you have X-ray vision to see the lane lines when they are covered by snow?

At least I know what to look for to give me a hint. I can make a best guess. I can also drive in the middle of the raid until I need to move over.

Computers suck at guessing in case you didn't know.

 

[Old Rocks]

Ice and Snow Thickness RADAR System

I suspect that there are many systems to overcome the snow covered road problem.

 

[WinterBorn]

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

You do realize that 3 meters is equal to 9.84252 feet? That is not an exact location when talking about keeping a car in a lane.

And do you have X-ray vision to see the lane lines when they are covered by snow?

At least I know what to look for to give me a hint. I can make a best guess. I can also drive in the middle of the raid until I need to move over.

Computers suck at guessing in case you didn't know.

Or the driverless vehicle can simply not drive on a snow covered road that is bordered by an unguarded cliff.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Gm also released the Volt.

 

[BulletProof]

I have no doubt driverless cars will handle snow and ice much better than most people.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

Would you drive your car on a road covered with snow and ice just 10 feet from a cliff? And does the roadside cliff not have a guard rail?

If I needed to get my family to the hospital, maybe yes.

If you think I would climb in a vehicle that I could not control in case of a system failure, also hell no!

As I said, you cannot idiot-proof a car. Somewhere out there is a bigger idiot than what they planned for!

If they make the cars so that I can control them in case of emergency and we have millions of passenger miles without any fatalities due to system errors, then maybe I will relax a little.

Are you familiar with all of the ship collisions the Navy had in the Pacific last year? One of the major causes listed was being overly reliant on technology. Just a little human intervention could have saved many sailor's lives and ruined careers.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I am not worried about the software. I am worried about the sensors being able to determine where the middle and sides of the road are located. I can't tell that in snow. How will it do that on a country road that hasn't been plowed?

You have a valid point. I was thinking more of an icy road situation

Right now I have no idea where my driveway is except generally between my mailbox and a retaining wall on the other side. I'd love to see a car figure that out.

The GPS can tell where the car is, within 3 meters. So unless you are driving on a snow covered road at the edge of a cliff, it can tell where it is.

So I can be 10 feet over a cliff before it knows where the car is supposed to be? In my state, that would be the rule rather than the exception.

Even if I was not near a cliff, the edges of the roadway drop off into drainage ditches that will flip a car in a heartbeat.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous your excuses are sounding?

I am just a rank amateur on this topic and I am blowing your ass away! I am starting to lose what little respect I had for Bama grads!

If the lane lines are completely covered, how do you stay in the lane?

I have no claim to be an expert and never have. But numerous experts in the field have said that they think there will be areas that are only open to driverless cars in 15 to 20 years.

I'm sorry! Who died and put those people in charge?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Gm also released the Volt.

There is one of those in my neighborhood! God forbid you ever get behind one of those pieces of shit! I have never seen one that can maintain highway speed! You can time their acceleration from 0-60 with a sundial, not that it ever could possibly reach 60 mph. On a 55 mph speed limit, I think about 47 mph is about the best I have seen them do.

If one ever got out on the interstate, I bet that some truck driver would be picking the pieces out of his grill at the next truck stop and washing the blood off with a hose.