Does Trump really have a mandate? Far less than other guys.

[dblack]

That and common sense. Sensible banking is good for the economy. It creates investment opportunities. No one could own their own home without a mortgage. Starting businesses would be impossible.

That's just not true. But it's also not what I'm saying. Your strawman suggested I'm opposed to banking. I'm not. I'm opposed to bankers being in bed with the government.

The problem wasn't that the government would bail them out, it was that the government wasn't minding the store. That none of these bankers went to jail or even lost their bonuses was the problem here.

Yes - this is classic liberal ideology. "We'll take care of you, but then we own you". Fuck that.

 

[JoeB131]

That's just not true. But it's also not what I'm saying. Your strawman suggested I'm opposed to banking. I'm not. I'm opposed to bankers being in bed with the government.

I think you need to read the history of WHY government is involved in banking.

Yes - this is classic liberal ideology. "We'll take care of you, but then we own you". Fuck that.

The Child-like thinking of Libertarians.

 

[dblack]

I think you need to read the history of WHY government is involved in banking.

I have. Maybe you should give it a shot.

The "child" thing is getting creepy. What's the deal? Just trolling?

Speaking of trolling, what about the "We the People" thing you used to chant? I guess it's not as much fun now that the will of the people didn't go your way.

 

[JoeB131]

I have. Maybe you should give it a shot.

The "child" thing is getting creepy. What's the deal? Just trolling?

Speaking of trolling, what about the "We the People" thing you used to chant? I guess it's not as much fun now that the will of the people didn't go your way.

What about it? Look, Trump ran a better campaign, but it's certainly not going to end up well for America.

It still doesn't mean we put the children in charge with their wide eye view that government are a bunch of meany-heads who want to make you eat your vegetables.

 

[22lcidw]

I think you need to read the history of WHY government is involved in banking.



The Child-like thinking of Libertarians.

The problem with banking is that it is not 100 percent fool proof.

 

[Delldude]

Actually, I do wonder about Epstein.
I wonder why there are so many pictures of Epstein and Trump palling around.
I wonder why Trump's Secretary of Labor was the one who gave Epstein a sweetheart deal on his first case.
I wonder why Epstein mysteriously died in prison on Trump's watch.
I wonder why Trump wished Maxwell the best of luck.

You see, these are the things I wonder about. But I'm sure Trump covered his track pretty well the first time he was in.



Actually, it's become a cesspool of hate speech and conspiracy theories.



SpaceX is a corporate welfare plot.



Republicans bring recessions every time they are in office.


I considered staying the full 20 years, but I'm glad I didn't, especially the way the Military was abused in the WOT.

You wonder about a lot of shit but rarely look into it to see what's there.

 

[Robert W]

Because the banks were the ones looking at the credit reports, looking at the earnings and tax returns, looking at the appraisals, and writing loans for people who had no business buying a McMansion.

So why did they do it? Because as long as property values kept shooting up, it really didn't matter if Bob Middle Class defaulted before he could flip his McMansion. They could foreclose and sell the McMansion to the next sucker, and still collect a couple of years of interest payments and maybe even keep the downpayment!

We socialized risk and capitalized gain. And if it all went pear-shaped, the government would bail them out.

You are so out of your league.

 

[dblack]

What about it? Look, Trump ran a better campaign, but it's certainly not going to end up well for America.

It still doesn't mean we put the children in charge with their wide eye view that government are a bunch of meany-heads who want to make you eat your vegetables.

The children thing? Again? You need sum new material. We the People!

 

[daveman]

I think you need to read the history of WHY government is involved in banking.



The Child-like thinking of Libertarians.

Leftists need Big Daddy Government to hold their hands and powder their bottoms.

But they make the mistake of believing normal people have the same intellectual and emotional weakness.

We don't.

 

[JoeB131]

You wonder about a lot of shit but rarely look into it to see what's there.

Actually, I have seen what's there. Now, while I do believe Epstein probably offed himself, There's no universe where Trump looks good in this deal.

You are so out of your league.

Stop trying to gaslight people. Bush and his banker buddies screwed us, multiple times. My only regret is that Obama didn't have the balls to criminally charge them.

The children thing? Again? You need sum new material. We the People!

I point out the obvious- Libertarians are children with magical thinking.

The people screwed up. They will pay dearly for it. Hopefully, this time the lesson sticks and the GOP is sent to the political wilderness for a couple decades like they were when Hoover ratfucked the economy.

Leftists need Big Daddy Government to hold their hands and powder their bottoms.

But they make the mistake of believing normal people have the same intellectual and emotional weakness.

We don't.

says a guy who collects a big fat government check every month.

 

[SweetTea]

Now, let's look for who the ones in the South voted for.

Union County Florida - Won by Trump. 5223 to 971
Wheeler County, GA - Won by Trump 1648 to 622
Telfair county GA - Won by Trump 2930 - 1274
Lake County, TN - Won by Trump - 1491 to 429
Bullock County, AL - Won by Harris (just being fair.


And this is an old story in Jesusland. The poorest, dumbest white person will vote for the interests of the rich, so long as they aren't equal to black people

Did you notice the notes for each county in your link? Most all of them are small counties with significant portions of their population being prisoners. Prisoners are counted in the census and they don’t have income. Wheeler County, GA has a population of 7471, 2874 of those are in Wheeler County Correctional Facility. If 38% of a population has no income, the PCI will be low.

Why do I have to tell you this. EVERYBODY knows that the poorest people in the country vote Democrat. They are the ones voting against their own self-interest. Idealistic college students who haven’t matured and the least financially successful adults are a huge portion of our base. Accept it. Embrace it. If we ever stop politically indoctrinating young minds in school to the point where they are incapable of thinking as adults even when they reach physiological adulthood, your party will completely die. The kids are LITERALLY running your party. The fact that you can’t see it is very telling.

 

[22lcidw]

Actually, I have seen what's there. Now, while I do believe Epstein probably offed himself, There's no universe where Trump looks good in this deal.



Stop trying to gaslight people. Bush and his banker buddies screwed us, multiple times. My only regret is that Obama didn't have the balls to criminally charge them.



I point out the obvious- Libertarians are children with magical thinking.

The people screwed up. They will pay dearly for it. Hopefully, this time the lesson sticks and the GOP is sent to the political wilderness for a couple decades like they were when Hoover ratfucked the economy.


says a guy who collects a big fat government check every month.

Stop the technical diaries. We are moving leftward. And will continue to do so. Trump is giving us a safety stop to realize what we are doing. Anything socialist is what we live in. A person paying social security taxes for fifty years and then collecting is not the same as a person collecting welfare benefits for fifty years.

 

[JoeB131]

Did you notice the notes for each county in your link? Most all of them are small counties with significant portions of their population being prisoners. Prisoners are counted in the census and they don’t have income. Wheeler County, GA has a population of 7471, 2874 of those are in Wheeler County Correctional Facility. If 38% of a population has no income, the PCI will be low.

Why do I have to tell you this. EVERYBODY knows that the poorest people in the country vote Democrat. They are the ones voting against their own self-interest. Idealistic college students who haven’t matured and the least financially successful adults are a huge portion of our base. Accept it. Embrace it. If we ever stop politically indoctrinating young minds in school to the point where they are incapable of thinking as adults even when they reach physiological adulthood, your party will completely die. The kids are LITERALLY running your party. The fact that you can’t see it is very telling.

Except they don't. Poor dumb white people in Jesusland vote Republican, and then wonder why they end up even poorer. I just proved you a liar, and you completely ignored it.

We don't need two Republican Parties. One is doing enough damage.

 

[SweetTea]

Except they don't. Poor dumb white people in Jesusland vote Republican, and then wonder why they end up even poorer. I just proved you a liar, and you completely ignored it.

We don't need two Republican Parties. One is doing enough damage.

You are simply wrong. I don’t care to argue with you on this point. You would be laughed out of the room in my circles. “Who is this guy telling us that we are poor and that poor people vote Republican? Let’s drive him down to the other side of the tracks and see how many Republicans he can find. “

 

[dblack]

You are simply wrong. I don’t care to argue with you on this point. You would be laughed out of the room in my circles. “Who is this guy telling us that we are poor and that poor people vote Republican? Let’s drive him down to the other side of the tracks and see how many Republicans he can find. “

This argument always cracks me up. Basically, liberals are saying, "Why are poor people so stupid? Why aren't they voting for our free shit?"

 

[daveman]

says a guy who collects a big fat government check every month.

It is by no means a fat check.

Look, I did something you wouldn't or couldn't do, and you're bitter about it. You can tell because you bring it up when it's not germane to the conversation.

You fucked up. Stop blaming me for it.

 

[daveman]

Except they don't. Poor dumb white people in Jesusland vote Republican, and then wonder why they end up even poorer. I just proved you a liar, and you completely ignored it.

We don't need two Republican Parties. One is doing enough damage.

How far left do you have to be to believe the Democrats are moving rightward?

I guess we know, Comrade.

 

[Robert W]

Stop trying to gaslight people. Bush and his banker buddies screwed us, multiple times. My only regret is that Obama didn't have the balls to criminally charge them.

Which bank loaned you money that you regret? How can you blame an innocent man?

 

[Jarlaxle]

I have no problem with it, as long as there's accountability. Not sure if we have that in the age of irresponsible social media.

Yes, Joey, we know: you dream of being in charge of the Ministry of Truth, and being the final arbiter of The Truth.

So even you see homeownership as a good thing. Why would your magic Banks think otherwise? Banks were generally not making home loans. Fannie and Freddie ruled my industry. They fucked things up and went bankrupt. I am not teaching you again. You play the part of the fool.

He's not PLAYING the fool.

Not quite. The problem with social media is that any fool living in his mother's basement can start a fake rumor that 'goes viral' and ruins someone's life. Unlike traditional media which have assets you can go after, the law holds the SM Platforms immune.

At least Facebook and some of the others TRY to do some moderation.

Yeah, it's great. In the last few months, FB "moderation" has...
Imposed a 3-day ban due to "pornography" for an image of a Roman sculpture. (Yesterday.)
Imposed a 24-hour ban (with no explanation) for an actual cat picture.
Removed a photo of a 10-22 rifle because it was...an anti-aircraft gun. (Notably, that same day, FB had no problem with pics of an ACTUAL anti-aircraft gun.)

 

[Jarlaxle]

JoeB131 is an honest to god authoritarian. It is why he is a Democrat.

It's much worse than that: Joey is a Stalinist. Joey dreams of running the Stasi, or the NKVD. Joey dreams of strutting around in a fancy uniform, and having Enemies Of The Proletariat murdered. Joey is the purest, darkest example of undiluted evil on this site.