Does Stand Your Ground apply to everybody?

[Concerned American]

Well, maybe it's only clear to Canadians?

Maybe those victims of the mass stabbing in Alberta would still be alive if they were allowed to defend themselves in Canada, eh duck?

 

[marvin martian]

Stand your Ground depends on you feeling threatened.and defending yourself

By definition, black people are threatening
It would be hard to convince a jury that a black man felt threatened by a white

^^^This is why the left will never escape their racism. It's ingrained.

 

[AMart]

The STAND YOUR GROUND law was created for scary, wanna be tough Whites to kill Black people. All they have to say is "I thought they were going to hurt me". Think: George Zimmerman. He killed Treyvon Martin and got away with it. His lawyers used the STAND YOUR GROUND defense.

Martin sucker punched Zimmerman, they was beating him on the ground. Zimmerman used his gun in self defense. His lawyers never used stand your ground because he was on his back getting hit. Stop lying boy.

 

[BackAgain]

^^^^
This statement is so absolutely, unfathomably false, its inherent error -MUST- be deliberate because no one with the level of intelligence necessary to believe it true does not have the mental capacity to remember to breathe.

Murder - by definition, an unlawful killing - can never be legal.

So spot on! If you shoot and kill an enemy combatant in war, it’s not murder. If a hangman gets the death warrant to hang you and proceeds to comply with that law and determination, it isn’t murder. Similarly, if you put me in a position where I need to use deadly force against you to save my life or the life of some other person, and I proceed to kill you, it also isn’t unlawful and therefore it’s not “murder.”

Our Canuck pal, Donny H, is too brainless to grasp any of this.

 

[fncceo]

When posters start using profanity and calling names, that means they have lost the debate already.

What debate?

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Actually they are but they shouldn't be.

I was going to say, yes, perhaps they are treated advantageously, but discriminated against? Hardly.

 

[BackAgain]

What debate?

Good question.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

In Stand Your Ground states, these homicides were ruled justified in 45% of cases involving a white shooter and Black victim, but just 11% of cases involving a Black shooter and white victim.57

https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/_stand_your_ground_kills_-_how_these_nra-backed_laws_promote_racist_violence_1.pdf

That doesn't prove discrimination.

 

[rightwinger]

That doesn't prove discrimination.

of course not…

 

[Kilroy2]

Stand your ground is simple kill or be killed, your choice and has more to do if you quicker on the draw than if you don't have a deadly weapon. Then its simply man slaughter as long you don't enjoy killing another human being or have malice or stupid intent. IF there is stupidity then thing about what would you like to have as your last meal.

 

[Dekster]

Does it? My neice says "No", because the STAND YOUR GROUND law doesn't apply to Black men. She says Black men are not allowed to protect themselves the same way Whites are.
What do you gun lovers here think? Is STAND YOUR GROUND an equal opportunity law?

Stand your ground applies in states that have those laws I suppose. Virginia's laws are pretty nuanced, but ultimately it comes down to what the jury thinks they would do in that situation.

 

[2aguy]

Does it? My neice says "No", because the STAND YOUR GROUND law doesn't apply to Black men. She says Black men are not allowed to protect themselves the same way Whites are.
What do you gun lovers here think? Is STAND YOUR GROUND an equal opportunity law?

Actually, research shows that stand your ground laws have benefited black men more than white men……so you fail right there

 

[2aguy]

The STAND YOUR GROUND law was created for scary, wanna be tough Whites to kill Black people. All they have to say is "I thought they were going to hurt me". Think: George Zimmerman. He killed Treyvon Martin and got away with it. His lawyers used the STAND YOUR GROUND defense.

Are you mentally ill? Let me guys……you are actually 10 years old…right?

Stand your ground laws were created to protect law abiding citizens from vicious prosecutors…..

 

[AZrailwhale]

Does it? My neice says "No", because the STAND YOUR GROUND law doesn't apply to Black men. She says Black men are not allowed to protect themselves the same way Whites are.
What do you gun lovers here think? Is STAND YOUR GROUND an equal opportunity law?

Yes it is just like the self-defense laws apply to everyone.

 

[AZrailwhale]

So, what does STAND YOUR GROUND have to do with, if not guns?

ANY assault by an intruder. He or she could be armed with anything from a butterknife to a chain saw and you have no legal responsibility to flee from him.

 

[2aguy]

Does it? My neice says "No", because the STAND YOUR GROUND law doesn't apply to Black men. She says Black men are not allowed to protect themselves the same way Whites are.
What do you gun lovers here think? Is STAND YOUR GROUND an equal opportunity law?

You don’t know what you are talking about…..

African Americans, women, and the elderly are more likely to benefit from the controversial "stand-your-ground" laws than other groups, according to John Lott Jr., president of the Crime Prevention Research Center.

"Blacks are more likely to be successful in making claims using stand-your-ground than any other racial group. They benefit in many ways," Lott told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

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www.newsmax.com

 

[Dekster]

ANY assault by an intruder. He or she could be armed with anything from a butterknife to a chain saw and you have no legal responsibility to flee from him.

That is more the castle doctrine. Stand your ground laws tend to be broader.

 

[AZrailwhale]

IDIOT, a gun is what most people would use isn't it? (Sorry, I couldn't resist. I usually don't call people names)

No, whatever weapon comes to hand is what a person would use. I have a CCW, but rarely carry. Instead, I carry a folding knife that is easy to deploy. Outside my house that would be my first choice, then rocks and broken bottles or anything available that could be used as a club. What a gun does is allows a five-foot nothing woman the ability to defend herself from a six foot two, three-hundred-pound gorilla like me. Unless a woman is very well trained going up against someone who outweighs her by a hundred pounds or more, has a longer reach and more upper body strength is a recipe for disaster.

 

[2aguy]

That is more the castle doctrine. Stand your ground laws tend to be broader.

Stand your ground is outside the home……..castle doctrine is inside the home

 

[AZrailwhale]

The STAND YOUR GROUND law was created for scary, wanna be tough Whites to kill Black people. All they have to say is "I thought they were going to hurt me". Think: George Zimmerman. He killed Treyvon Martin and got away with it. His lawyers used the STAND YOUR GROUND defense.

No they didn't. You are ignorant. They used the self-defense defense because Martin attacked Zimmerman and was beating him like a drum. There was an independent witness.