Does Anybody Believe the Universities' Line About So-Called "American Imperialism' ?

[Mac-7]

like when we invaded Iraq and forced them to grant the US exclusive rights to sell their oil.

That is not true

The US never forced such a deal on iraq

If someone told you that they are lying to you

 

[Mac-7]

American universities are being influenced by communist chinese money

We need to ban all mainland chinese students in the STEM subjects from studying in the US

 

[beagle9]

like when we invaded Iraq and forced them to grant the US exclusive rights to sell their oil.

That is not true

The US never forced such a deal on iraq

If someone told you that they are lying to you

As a payback, we should have sought a beauty of a deal with the new regime, and they should have been happy to oblige or help us recoup some of our expenses where we had to help liberate that craphole, and then on top of that we had to send in engineer's to fight the fire's Sadam set in the oil fields. But because of our undermining forces back here (just like it was in Vietnam), we can't get nothing right anymore, because our politician's are weak nutless wonders that represent special interest groups instead of doing what's right by American's blood being spilled.

 

[protectionist]

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That is not true

The US never forced such a deal on iraq

If someone told you that they are lying to you

A lot of lying has been going on when it comes to so-called "American imperialism." Nothing new there.

There's also massive amounts of MISinformation being absorbed by people who naively accept that their university professors are always "teaching" them correctly.

 

[protectionist]

This thread has moved quite rapidly since I wrote the OP. Might take a bit of time to catch up on it.

 

[Mac-7]

payback, we should have sought a beauty of a deal with the new regime, and they should have been happy to oblige or help us recoup some of our expenses where we had to help liberate that craphole,

I would have agreed with you at the time

But now I see the invasion of iraq as a tragic blunder

The iraqi’s cannot be civilized and it was foolish to think we could

 

[protectionist]

American Imperialism: Annexing the Philippines - History and Headlines

On November 2, 1900, Dr. Jacob Gould Schurman (1854-1942), President of the First Philippine Commission, stated, "Should our power by any fatality be..."

www.historyandheadlines.com

If it isn't, then SHOW WHERE it is occuring NOW, and over the past 20 years. I'm asking for CURRENT EVENTS, not 19th & 20th century HISTORY.

 

[beagle9]

American universities are being influenced by communist chinese money

We need to ban all mainland chinese students in the STEM subjects from studying in the US

After what China done to million's of the worlds population, they should be left on a Vine to rot. If they have labs creating super viruses, and worse we possibly had a hand in it, then we should use such knowledge learned to end this scourge by commiting to do the right thing going foward. 1st clean up our own mess, then work with China to end any program of mass destruction where any type thing is going on that can inflict this kind of damage to humankind.

 

[Mac-7]

.

That is not true

The US never forced such a deal on iraq

If someone told you that they are lying to you

A lot of lying has been going on when it comes to so-called "American imperialism." Nothing new there.

There's also massive amounts of MISinformation being absorbed by people who naively accept that their university professors are always "teaching" them correctly.

Like the NBA American universities are being corrupted by chinese communist dollars

 

[protectionist]

My universities do you mean government funded socialist indoctrination centers?

Sounds about right.

 

[beagle9]

payback, we should have sought a beauty of a deal with the new regime, and they should have been happy to oblige or help us recoup some of our expenses where we had to help liberate that craphole,

I would have agreed with you at the time

But now I see the invasion of iraq as a tragic blunder

The iraqi’s cannot be civilized and it was foolish to think we could

They could have been civilized if we were a country, and a military that we had back in world war two, but with what we have undermining our country and forces today, then I'm afraid that you are absolutely correct. Trump knew this, and spoke about it alot. He attempted to correct alot of thing's, and actually exposed the enemies from within.

 

[protectionist]

What was the exact question?

From the OP >>> "provide an example of where "American imperialism" is going on, now, or over the past 20 years."

 

[protectionist]

The US granted the Philippines independence in 1946...

Leftists dwell in the past. Just like the constant barrage of old B & W TV film footage of civil rights battles of the 1950s, to rile up blacks in an age when they are beneficiaries of Affirmative Action. This was before the white cop shooting unarmed black guy propaganda began.

 

[Mac-7]

payback, we should have sought a beauty of a deal with the new regime, and they should have been happy to oblige or help us recoup some of our expenses where we had to help liberate that craphole,

I would have agreed with you at the time

But now I see the invasion of iraq as a tragic blunder

The iraqi’s cannot be civilized and it was foolish to think we could

They could have been civilized if we were a country, and a military that we had back in world war two, but with what we have undermining our country and forces today, then I'm afraid that you are absolutely correct. Trump knew this, and spoke about it alot. He attempted to correct alot of thing's, and actually exposed the enemies from within.

No

Iraq is a very damaged culture that has a long way to go before becoming normal in the western sense of the word

 

[Soupnazi630]

I just saw an episode on Newsmax where a reporter was asking college students if they believe there is American imperialism. If the students answered yes (most did), they were asked to sign a petition to stop it. Quite a few signed the petition.

After signing, the students (apparently victims of heavy indoctrination) were asked to provide an example of where "American imperialism" is going on. now, or over the past 20 years. None were able to respond with a single location.

I wish I would have been that reporter. I would have asked the kids if they knew of the USA being a VICTIM of imperialism. I would have also asked them to provide a definition of "imperialism".

Here are 2 definitions >>

1.

Definition of IMPERIALISM

the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

2.

What Is Imperialism?

Imperialism is the policy or act of extending a country’s power into other territories or gaining control over another country’s politics or economy.

www.thebalance.com

I would have loved to tell these brainwashed students that the US is the #1 VICTIM of imperialism in the world today, and has been for the last 20 years, by the way 21st century imperialism is conducted (migrant remittances).

Remittance flows worldwide in 2017

Worldwide, an estimated $625 billion (USD) was sent by migrants to individuals in their home countries in 2017, a 7% increase from 2016, when the amount was $586 billion, according to economists at the World Bank. This increase follows two consecutive years of decline.

www.pewresearch.org

No doubt the US made mistakes along the way, but we did not slaughter millions in the name of communism or Nazism.

YES we did.
We slaughtered over 3 million innocent Vietnamese over the idiotic label we simply do not understand, "communism".

And yes, the US is the single most Nazi country in the world, by far.
Nazi is short for National Socialist Party, which was totally anti-socialist, and was a oligarchy of the wealthy elite.
That is exactly what the US is, with the same Military Industrial Complex in charge that appointed Hitler.

We unjderstood it and still understand it fine. That figure of 3 million were those who died in the war which started long before us and most were killed by the communists not us.

 

[beagle9]

payback, we should have sought a beauty of a deal with the new regime, and they should have been happy to oblige or help us recoup some of our expenses where we had to help liberate that craphole,

I would have agreed with you at the time

But now I see the invasion of iraq as a tragic blunder

The iraqi’s cannot be civilized and it was foolish to think we could

They could have been civilized if we were a country, and a military that we had back in world war two, but with what we have undermining our country and forces today, then I'm afraid that you are absolutely correct. Trump knew this, and spoke about it alot. He attempted to correct alot of thing's, and actually exposed the enemies from within.

No

Iraq is a very damaged culture that has a long way to go before becoming normal in the western sense of the word

If we would have not been undermined by our own back here, then we could have been seen as liberator's like we were in the beginning, and we could have shared our experiences and value's just like we've done with other nation's that were seemingly a lost cause during world war two under their bad leadership's. In the information age, and due to our crooked politician's, and due our undermining back here, we were screwed from the get go, and have been screwed ever since.

 

[protectionist]

Sorry, but you are totally and completely wrong.
Imperialism is when the US uses it armed forces in order to economically control others, like when we invaded Iraq and forced them to grant the US exclusive rights to sell their oil.
Another is how the US forces countries to use the US currency for their economic operations, like the sale of oil.

Migrant remittances in no way are remotely connected to imperialism.
Migrants who work in the US produce about 5 times the goods for us than the amount we pay them, so even if they were to remit 100% of their earnings, 80% of the labor and productivity would be retained by the US.

NONSENSE! 21st century imperialism IS the process of migration combined with remittance sending. You don't have to take MY word for it. Here's an ex-president of Mexico to tell it you himself >> Vicente Fox, who just a few years ago was bragging and gloating about how he was pulling (at that time) $12 Billion/year out of the US economy by Mexican remittances from the US.

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

www.diggersrealm.com

At the time, Fox claimed that this was Mexico's # 1 source of income, topping even their oil exports. Has anything changed ? Yeah, Mexico now rakes in a cool $35 Billion/year, anticipated to possibly double by 2022, due to the massive influx of new migrants under the Biden open border policy.

I don't know where all your numbers are coming from (you posted zero sources), but they sound rather ridiculous. Migrants don't produce any more than Americans produced while working in the same jobs, and that sure wasn't 5 times what we pay them.
What is retained by the US from remittance lost is essentially NOTHING. It is a total loss, and it is pure 21st century style Imperialism against the US, the #1 victim of it in the world today. $148 Billion/year lost (would have been sales to American businesses) $35 Billion/year to Mexico alone. $70 Billion by next year. The Vikings would be envious. In their wildest dreams, they never pillaged another country to pull in a haul like that.

Remittance flows worldwide in 2017

Worldwide, an estimated $625 billion (USD) was sent by migrants to individuals in their home countries in 2017, a 7% increase from 2016, when the amount was $586 billion, according to economists at the World Bank. This increase follows two consecutive years of decline.

www.pewresearch.org

And since you want to talk about some so-called "benefits" from the presence of Biden's illegal aliens, LOOK OUT!, because inside that box, is also a long list of the HARMS we get from them >>>

Harms of illegal immigration

1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).
2. Wage reduction.
3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($148 Billion/year). Remittance flows worldwide in 2017
5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.
6. Increased crime (esp. sex crimes)
7. Increased traffic congestion.
8. Increased pollution.
9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.
10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.
11. Overcrowding in government offices.
12. Overcrowding in schools.
13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.
14. Cultural erosion.
15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
16. Introduction of foreign diseases
17. Influx of terrorists.
18. Wildfires
19. Litter
20. Housing saturation.
21. Excessively high housing costs.

 

[protectionist]

But the Philippines were SUPPOSED to be liberated in 1901 when the Spain was defeated.
We had promised the Filippinos independence in return for their help.
Instead we sent troop into the Philippines and massacred the natives in the 1911 rebellion, after we refused to give them the independence we promised.

And "WE" did nothing of the kind - ei. "we' living in 2021, which is the TOPIC of the thread.

 

[protectionist]

So, by your reckoning, 95% of the US Congress have been indoctrinated by these evil bastions of advanced education?

The Congressional Research Service notes that the vast majority of Members (95 percent) had an academic degree:

• 168 Representatives and 57 Senators had a law degree. Of these, five (three Representative and two Senators) also hold a Master of Laws (LL.M.) degree.
• 83 Representatives and 16 Senators earned a master's degree – often a Master of Business Administration (M.B.A.) – as their highest educational degree
• 27 Representatives and one Senator (Mark Begich)[18] have no educational degree beyond a high school diploma.
• 23 Representatives, & one Senator (Kyrsten Sinema) have a PhD
• 17 Representatives and three Senators have a medical degree (this number includes one Senator with a veterinary medicine degree and one Representative with a dental degree).
• Five Representatives (but no Senators) have an associate's degree as their highest degree. One House Member has a licensed practical nurse (L.P.N.) degree.

Three Representatives (John Shimkus, Geoff Davis, Brett Guthrie) and one Senator (Jack Reed) are graduates of the United States Military Academy, while two Senators (John McCain, Jim Webb) and one Representative (Joe Sestak) are graduates of the United States Naval Academy. Three Senators (including Russ Feingold and Richard Lugar) and two Representatives (Jim Cooper and Jim Himes) were Rhodes Scholars, three Representatives (Tom Cole and Gabby Giffords) were Fulbright Scholars, and one Representative (John Spratt) was a Marshall Scholar. Senator Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona is widely considered to be the most educated member of congress with a Bachelor's degree, a Master of Social Work, a Master of Business Administration, a law degree, & a PhD


I take it you don't have a college degree.

But not everyone succumbs to the indoctrination. And not all universities are overwhelmingly liberal. By far, most are, but there are a few that are middle of the road and even lean conservative, especially the Christian ones.

Top 50 Conservative Colleges – Stopping Socialism

One of the most important, impactful decisions a young person makes in his or her life is choosing which college to attend. A student’s friends, career opportunities, and ideological views are often radically altered while studying as an undergraduate student. However, despite the importance of...

stoppingsocialism.com

 

[protectionist]

YES we did.
We slaughtered over 3 million innocent Vietnamese over the idiotic label we simply do not understand, "communism".

And yes, the US is the single most Nazi country in the world, by far.
Nazi is short for National Socialist Party, which was totally anti-socialist, and was a oligarchy of the wealthy elite.
That is exactly what the US is, with the same Military Industrial Complex in charge that appointed Hitler.

This is the same lunacy that I was talking about in the OP. This poor soul is obviously a victim of the indoctrination machine, and once again, the post is OFF TOPIC dealing with events of half a century ago.

Note: please SHOW anything you think is American Imperialism, happening now or within the last 20 years.