Do you notice how gun nuts never talk about any limits to gun ownership?

[Hale]

Yes, I'm cool with open carry of automatic weapons. Any other questions?

 

[Oddball]

Yes, I'm cool with open carry of automatic weapons. Any other questions?

I'm cool with recreational McNukes™.

 

[JWBooth]

Do you notice how gun nuts never talk about any limits to gun ownership?


Cannot claim to know any gun nuts, but there are some complete crazies that post here that seem to believe that only state actors should have unlimited access to firearms. These poor, deluded, folk should be put in a home under a strict regeme of Thorazine treatment for their own good.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Again, what part of the 2nd amendment applies to the States and Local Governments who are the ones that make the real laws?

All states and local governments are bound by the Constitution.

No......the federal government is. Enforcing the Constitution is up the the president, but the president still has to do what the courts say. This is what the courts are for. This is why Democrats are trying to take over the Supreme Court and all Federal Courts.

Splitting hairs. Supremacy clause. There is wiggle room, but when push comes to shove, the feds prevail over the states where a mandate exists.

We saw that when the supreme court rewrote the law in ocare and forced everyone to purchase a product or be penalized. The penalty is gone now.

They didn't rewrite the law. They ruled on what the Congress had passed as a law. That is all they could do.

Yeah, he did. He rewrote the mandate as a tax so that it would be constitutional. He should have sent the unconstitutional law back to congress/senate. The SC is not there to write law.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Most conservatives are simply ignorant and wrong: it is a settled, accepted fact of law that the Second Amendment is not absolute.

OH GREAT ITS CASE LAW CLAYTON TO THE RESCUE,,,

You got that right!!

 

[Rustic]

Oh really?

The problem with gun control is Socialists always take it too far.......just like they're taking abortion too far.

I advocate "Common Sense Gun Regulations" and the State of Colorado is very near to that point. It only has one more to go to reach that and that should happen some time this year. Does that make me a socialists? Does that make me a Communist? Am I advocating that we come and confiscate all your guns?

Well I might advocate confiscating all your guns if you become a liability and direct safety to the public. And then, only your guns, not anyone elses. That is the last piece of law that will go into affect this year. Do the guns laws here keep me from walking in and purchasing a gun in about 15 minutes if I want one? Does it limit me to buying 500 rounds of ammo at a time once a week? Do I need to have special licenses and regulations to own, possess, transport, etc. the guns? Am I required to Register myself for anything other than weapons on the 1934 Firearms Act? The answer is No to all of these. I can have the gun or my choice to protect my home, I can have the gun of my choice for hunting, I can ...... That list goes on and on. You keep telling me that I should feel threatened. Funny, I don't feel threatened. Well, I do feel a little threatened by you so I guess I need to stay armed just in case. Never know when some people with some strange ideas may feel the need to do something really stupid.

Common-sense??? Sorry, that isn't in the left's vocabulary.
Wherever they apply common-sense to the gun debate it always leads to confiscation. Why? Because it always causes more violence, which leads to increasingly stricter gun laws. A prime example is Chicago.

When I worked out seriously, the term "Feel the Burn" was a good thing. But "Feel the Fear" is not usually a good thing when there really isn't a thing to feel. In Combat, "Feel the Fear" is a good thing for without it, you ren't operating at your maximum. But I just don't feel the need to "Feel the Fear" on this one. Your Fear routine isn't working so good anymore because there are other things more important to fear. You really need to start this out with "Once upon a time".

I hope you aren't talking to me.
Apparently you haven't the ability to keep up with current events. A perfect example is the Virginia Governor's comments on camera to infanticide.

I am talking directly to you. And I notice that you changed the subject to something that IS well worth the fear. Well, it is for me. But getting back to the original content, gun control the way you keep presenting it isn't a fearful thing around here. WE have a pretty good handle on it. Roe V Wade also has a pretty good handle on things as well. Deviating from either probably isn't such a good idea and it looks like SCOTUS will probably agree with that as well. But you can keep dreaming, there cupcake.

 

[Rustic]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Most conservatives are simply ignorant and wrong: it is a settled, accepted fact of law that the Second Amendment is not absolute.

The Second Amendment is an absolute right till someone fucks it up for themselves

 

[Norman]

Oh to be young again.

I remember when I had MY first beer.

I never remember being a retard. No matter how many beers I would never throw up the shit the op just did.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Have you ever noticed how EVERYONE who doesn't agree with you is nut?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

All states and local governments are bound by the Constitution.

No......the federal government is. Enforcing the Constitution is up the the president, but the president still has to do what the courts say. This is what the courts are for. This is why Democrats are trying to take over the Supreme Court and all Federal Courts.

Splitting hairs. Supremacy clause. There is wiggle room, but when push comes to shove, the feds prevail over the states where a mandate exists.

We saw that when the supreme court rewrote the law in ocare and forced everyone to purchase a product or be penalized. The penalty is gone now.

They didn't rewrite the law. They ruled on what the Congress had passed as a law. That is all they could do.

Yeah, he did. He rewrote the mandate as a tax so that it would be constitutional. He should have sent the unconstitutional law back to congress/senate. The SC is not there to write law.

We are talking about the SC, not the President. The SC can't send a thing back to congress. It's either an up or down vote. In this case, it was voted in as a bill, signed into a law by the President and the law covered all of what it needed to do. It is up to Congress and a President to overturn it. You can't use SC to settle old grudges.

 

[sparky]

Actually your rights were granted to you by God, the founding fathers simply acknowledged it.

Natural law......google is your friend...

Let’s split some hairs...who authored and framed the 2nd?

Pesky facts!

ah...indeed.....

OH GREAT DARYLS HERE TO FUCK UP EVERYTHING

Not his fault this crew lacks the horsepower to keep up....

I'm cool with recreational McNukes™.

which would be what one would need to combat any rouge government

but there are some complete crazies that post here that seem to believe that only state actors should have unlimited access to firearms

I want a howitzer bolted to my roof now....

The Second Amendment is an absolute right till someone fucks it up for themselves

It's already 'effed up

Gun nuts thinking the 2nd is the epitome of freedom protecting them from a government wishing to take them away miss the entire point

We're a police state since 9/11, the way to grow that empire is policing a population aiming at each other

We're being played right into the hands of tyranny, one gun at a time

~S~

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Shall not be infringed is pretty specific in its meaning.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Are they cool with the prospect of people open carrying fully automatic wherever they go? After all, it’s the second amendment! Why is this not a thing?! Surely at GOP conventions those tough republican politicians would feel safe with knowing any fucker carrying a weapon around them is allowed to. Republicans’ idea of limiting gun violence is more guns after all. More guns the better!

If they do draw the line at these scenarios, then don’t they see how ridiculous it is to say any from of gun control is unconstitutional? Who are republicans to arbitrarily decide what level of gun laws are acceptable but democrats can’t? Hell, even their St. Scalia said gun control measures were constitutional.

Do you notice how kids have freedom of speech? You may pretend they don’t because what they choose to say can be punished by an adult in charge, but adults can be punished for what they say as well by adults in charge. After all, you can lose your job if you find yourself catcalling that new hot intern everyday.

All that matters when it comes to the first amendment and kids is that they can’t be charged with a crime for their speech. Now all this being said, are toddlers being denied their bill of rights by not being able to carry a gun?

Oh really?

The problem with gun control is Socialists always take it too far.......just like they're taking abortion too far.

I advocate "Common Sense Gun Regulations" and the State of Colorado is very near to that point. It only has one more to go to reach that and that should happen some time this year. Does that make me a socialists? Does that make me a Communist? Am I advocating that we come and confiscate all your guns?

Well I might advocate confiscating all your guns if you become a liability and direct safety to the public. And then, only your guns, not anyone elses. That is the last piece of law that will go into affect this year. Do the guns laws here keep me from walking in and purchasing a gun in about 15 minutes if I want one? Does it limit me to buying 500 rounds of ammo at a time once a week? Do I need to have special licenses and regulations to own, possess, transport, etc. the guns? Am I required to Register myself for anything other than weapons on the 1934 Firearms Act? The answer is No to all of these. I can have the gun or my choice to protect my home, I can have the gun of my choice for hunting, I can ...... That list goes on and on. You keep telling me that I should feel threatened. Funny, I don't feel threatened. Well, I do feel a little threatened by you so I guess I need to stay armed just in case. Never know when some people with some strange ideas may feel the need to do something really stupid.

There is no such thing as common sense gun regulation, because the only people they will affect is law abiding citizens. Criminals by there very nature will ignore your "common sense"

 

[Avatar4321]

You are surprised that people who understand their second amendment rights don’t talk about giving government power to restrict their rights? Really?

Why would any rational person give the government control over their ability to defend themselves? Especially from all powerful governments

 

[Bush92]

My friend who is a republican, showed me a pic of her grandchild, a 7 year old dressed in fatigues, with a weapon, a rifle. She thought it was cute, I thought it was disgusting.

Had my first hunting rifle at 9. Skills helped me later fighting Iraqi Army.

Yes and did you see battle? My opinion of being in battle, they either come back with PTSD, or come back wanting for more bloodshed. No winner from war.

Sure did.

 

[Bush92]

My friend who is a republican, showed me a pic of her grandchild, a 7 year old dressed in fatigues, with a weapon, a rifle. She thought it was cute, I thought it was disgusting.

Had my first hunting rifle at 9. Skills helped me later fighting Iraqi Army.

Yes and did you see battle? My opinion of being in battle, they either come back with PTSD, or come back wanting for more bloodshed. No winner from war.

Every war since WW2 has been unjust, imo. Not once has congress declared war since that war, Vietnam being the ultimate tragedy.

Checking communistic wars of aggression was justified. Russians had to pay to export those revolutions and it helped break them.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You are surprised that people who understand their second amendment rights don’t talk about giving government power to restrict their rights? Really?

Why would any rational person give the government control over their ability to defend themselves? Especially from all powerful governments

Your yard isn't big enough to store all that equipment. Your pockets aren't deep enough to afford all that equipment. You ain't rich enough to train all those people to use that equipment. You can't even afford to feed them. I don't know of any individual or even a state that can pony up trillions off dollars to afford setting up what it would take to take on the Federal Government.

 

[progressive hunter]

You are surprised that people who understand their second amendment rights don’t talk about giving government power to restrict their rights? Really?

Why would any rational person give the government control over their ability to defend themselves? Especially from all powerful governments

Your yard isn't big enough to store all that equipment. Your pockets aren't deep enough to afford all that equipment. You ain't rich enough to train all those people to use that equipment. You can't even afford to feed them. I don't know of any individual or even a state that can pony up trillions off dollars to afford setting up what it would take to take on the Federal Government.

you sound like a coward!!!

 

[Bush92]

The 2nd Amendment is, among other things, a hedge against tyranny.

Imagine what could possibly happen to a disarmed -- or a lesser armed or an under armed -- citizenry if a President (Insert name here,) had or was to have an urge to become a real life dictator.

Unless of course the gun owning contingent sides with a tyrant assuming power in this country Lee.....

~S~

We don’t have to worry about that. Liberals don’t support gun ownership and any tyrant would come from the Left.

Right wing tryants don't exist....?
~S~

Nope. Name them? I can name left wing tyrants. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao,Saddam (his hero was Stalin and women had unprecedented rights as per Muslim world in Saddam’s Iraq) , Chechicue, Chavez, Castro, every president of East Germany, Kim Jung Un, Kim Il Sung, and any other Kim Jungs. List goes on, and, on.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

My friend who is a republican, showed me a pic of her grandchild, a 7 year old dressed in fatigues, with a weapon, a rifle. She thought it was cute, I thought it was disgusting.

Had my first hunting rifle at 9. Skills helped me later fighting Iraqi Army.

Yes and did you see battle? My opinion of being in battle, they either come back with PTSD, or come back wanting for more bloodshed. No winner from war.

Sure did.

Funny you should mention that. I came back. It took a few months of therapy while on active duty to take care of the worst of the problems. But I have been certified as sane. Yes, cupcake, I have a paper that says I am sane. Can you say the same? While I am certified sane, what is to say that you aren't crazier than a looney bird?

And I don't have any undying need to kill anyone or anything for that matter. I also don't feel the urge to go out and horde lots of guns. I'll leave the hording to others if it trips their trigger. One or two or three is plenty for me. Actually, zero is just as good. When you meet me on the street or enter my home, you just have to ask yourself a question, is it one, two, three or none. Makes things a bit interesting, don't it. It suffices to know that I can and have used weapons and am very capable of using them but I choose not to. It's a choice. I like my choice. It soothes me.

Most of us come back with the only thing we want is to get back to a normal life. What we don't need is for some nutball harping on like you do about a subject you know nothing about. Maybe you need to go find out for yourself.